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    Quote Originally Posted by Borbor View Post
    curious as to whether this has this been quantitatively proven?
    If going by stringbed frequency, then yes.

    Even then, zm62 @23lbs does hit and
    sound like vs850 @25lbs in terms of clear and smash power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsmith View Post
    Yes, its true that thin strings can use lower tensions to feel like thicker strings at higher tensions. But even so, thin strings like Zymax 62 often play better at high tensions. It was Dink and MarkA that put me onto playing with Zymax 62 at 30 lbs. MarkA often uses 31 lbs with Zymax 62. Not sure how platinum ZM62 will react at 30 lbs., but my first generation optic yellow ZM62 will usually last about two weeks at 30 lbs. and plays amazingly well.
    Wimps like me won't be able to even clear half court @30lbs with this string.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsmith View Post
    Reading both Visor's and Boubos1957 posts about string tension and their Revelation rackets, I am struck by the low tensions mentioned, 23 for Visor and 20 for Boubos. I am a fairly new convert from racketball to badminton, about two years into badminton. But it seems when I try any racket and any string type at these low tensions, the bird becomes very bouncy and hard to control on drop shots. But get the tension up closer to 30 lbs. and I can "spoon feed" the net drop shots with much better control.

    I was under the impression that everyone can control drop shots better with high tension. But I also remember Dink saying that every player should use the lowest tension possible at which they feel they retain good control. Since Visor and Boubos can retain good control at lower tensions which is hard to do for most players, I guess it means that they are very skilled players. I don't see how they do it.
    While higher tension gives you more control, it also makes it harder to get power out of it. Getting a decent length on clears will be more difficult and the smash will likely be slower as well. That's the reason why usually only more skilled players use higher tensions - they have the technique required to generate the racket head speed to get power out of the tight stringbed and to hit the sweetspot consistently.
    Using lower tension can mean having less control, but some people actually get more control out of the longer 'hangtime' of the shuttle on the string compared to a higher tension.
    In the end, it's all about playing with what you're comfortable with.


    Quote Originally Posted by bsmith View Post
    Yes, its true that thin strings can use lower tensions to feel like thicker strings at higher tensions. But even so, thin strings like Zymax 62 often play better at high tensions. It was Dink and MarkA that put me onto playing with Zymax 62 at 30 lbs. MarkA often uses 31 lbs with Zymax 62. Not sure how platinum ZM62 will react at 30 lbs., but my first generation optic yellow ZM62 will usually last about two weeks at 30 lbs. and plays amazingly well.
    Using that string at that tension is....just impossible for me I like the feel of it, but one mishit on any stroke will break it, so it's just not worth it for me to put in both the money and time to re-string 3-6 rackets every week...I'm currently using the BG65Ti@30x31lbs and quite happy with it. Of course it's not the same crisp feeling as with a thinner string, but much easier on the budget and once you get used to it, actually not that bad-feeling. Somehow, it just feels more solid than a thinner string, which can translate into control just as well...
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    The first gen ZM62 is completely different than the current ZM62. Dink uses the current ZM62 at 30-32lbs. but only 27-28lbs. with the first gen ZM62.

    First gen at 30lbs. would be equivalent to BG65 at 38lbs.
    There's practically no give above 28lbs. because it's reached its maximum stretch (elastic limit).



    Quote Originally Posted by bsmith View Post
    Yes, its true that thin strings can use lower tensions to feel like thicker strings at higher tensions. But even so, thin strings like Zymax 62 often play better at high tensions. It was Dink and MarkA that put me onto playing with Zymax 62 at 30 lbs. MarkA often uses 31 lbs with Zymax 62. Not sure how platinum ZM62 will react at 30 lbs., but my first generation optic yellow ZM62 will usually last about two weeks at 30 lbs. and plays amazingly well.

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    All you do is need to play with 1st Gen ZM62 to know.

    If you use BG65 at 25lbs., try 1st Gen ZM62 at 25lbs. and it will be much tighter, feel 3lbs. tighter. Then try it at 21-22lbs., it will be much more manageable and closer to the BG65 at 25lbs.

    This happens because the thin to ultra-thin string reaches its elastic limit faster than medium to thick string which have a greater elastic range.


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    curious as to whether this has this been quantitatively proven?
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    I've only tried the first gen @ 24 pounds, and it was a while ago...but it did feel quite close to the BG80 @ 27 pounds that I've been using for the past 6 weeks.

    Curiously tho is that the 2nd gen @ 26 pounds doesn't feel all that "boardy", and mind you this is on a PPro (which isn't what I prefer in terms of PPro vs Rev) I usually just drop tension by a pound when I do 2nd gen 62. 4 pounds is out of the question for me. I remember back in Nov @ 23 pounds I thought it was the bee's knees already, but the control just keeps getting better when I tighten it a bit more

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    Remember: BG80 is a stiff string, it already plays 1-2lbs. tighter than BG65. So 1st gen ZM62 should only be 1-2lbs. tighter; so if BG80 at 27, then 1st gen should be at 25-26lbs. to be comparable.

    Again: 2nd gen is a completely different beast than 1st gen.

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    1st gen zm62? Where the heck do you get that nowadays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    1st gen zm62? Where the heck do you get that nowadays?
    Dink bought out all remaining stock from Ashaway USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    1st gen zm62? Where the heck do you get that nowadays?
    we have our ways

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    Hey Visor, you don't know what your missing, it plays so well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Dink bought out all remaining stock from Ashaway USA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Borbor View Post
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    Looks like I now know who to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUBOS1957 View Post
    Hey Visor, you don't know what your missing, it plays so well...
    I'm now beginning to see the light...

    I bought 2 PPros
    from Borbor last year which were
    strung with zm62 by Dink. No wonder they played so well... so crunchy and so repulsive! So those were the first gens!

    Gotta get me some!

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    hate to burst ur bubble; the ones on the PPro you got from me are 2nd gen. I got the 1st gen locally

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    Quote Originally Posted by borbor View Post
    I hate to burst your bubble; the ones on the PPro you got from me are up 2nd gen. I got the 1st gen locally
    Huh? Now
    I'm confused.

    I already easily break gen2 at over
    24lbs, so the gen1 supposedly
    less durable would not work out for me then?

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    How is it confusing.

    The strings on the racket that I shipped to you (as you received em) were 2nd gen 62s. End of story.

    And indeed the gen 1 are way less durable than the gen 2s.

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    No, I'm confused by what I thought was the exquisite feel and power of those 2 p pros... thought is was perhaps due to gen1.

    Yah, the way I hit, or mishit, no way gen1 is gonna last me a session.

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