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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    Thanks, can do better but Panda thinks that's good enough for the web.

    Though not perfect, Panda gives it 85-90 out of 100.
    haha! so humble Panda!

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    ^ stiffness: 8-8.5 how is that compared to trinity 2's stiffness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Distanc3 View Post
    ^ stiffness: 8-8.5 how is that compared to trinity 2's stiffness?
    I believe they're equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Distanc3 View Post
    ^ stiffness: 8-8.5 how is that compared to trinity 2's stiffness?
    T1 is 7.8-8.2, so Woven looks to be similar to T2
    Last edited by visor; 01-13-2010 at 11:39 PM.

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    Oh man that looks delicious. I love the look of the racket too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    T1 is 7.8-8.2, so Woven looks to be similar to T2
    i thought T2 was a toned down version of T1....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinkAlot View Post
    This particular one:
    86.0g, BP290
    Stiffness: 8.0-8.5
    Both shaft and frame: Toray Woven 40T (equivalent) Graphite

    I strung it at 32lbs. with ZM70 and it felt like stringing a normal racket at 22lbs. I think it can take 40lbs. without too much strain but I don't think the grommets will hold.

    Will test it on Friday...
    Hahaha seems like Panda now needs to invent better grommets for high tension specialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Distanc3 View Post
    i thought T2 was a toned down version of T1....
    I have a new AT700 in hand and based on the "SOTX Stiffness Scale":

    Roughly, I figure:

    Trinity: 7.8-8.2
    Ultra: 7.0-7.3
    AT700: 8.2-8.5
    Cab 22: 7.2-7.5
    9000-X: 7.8-8.2
    Ti10 1 Gen: 7.8-8.2
    Ti10 2 Gen: 8.3-8.5
    Ti10 3 Gen: 8.0-8.2
    It is.
    A while back, this is what Panda estimated.
    I believe he wanted the T2 to be like AT700 or 900's stiffness.

    He says T2 is now 15% less stiff than T1,
    and similarly U2 is 15% less stiff than U1. (So, now U2 is as flexy as T1)


    And somewhere a while back, he did mention that the Revelation will be as flexy/stiff as T2.

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    wait.. so the HIGHER the number the less stiff it is? btw where did you get the 2nd quote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Distanc3 View Post
    wait.. so the HIGHER the number the less stiff it is? btw where did you get the 2nd quote?
    Yep. See here:
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...&postcount=333


    2nd post here:
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...&postcount=330

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    ok thanks for clearing it up. looking forward to the woven racket

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    would you also make a fully woven trinity?

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    also where do we order for spare grommets? grommets does not last forever right?

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    looks like my fleet woven 1000 without any paint.

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    The stiffness of the T2 is: 8.0 - 8.5

    Some updates and more relative info based on Panda's experience below. Panda will add this to the update racket review in a week or so.

    Shaft Stiffness Range: 7.0 to 10.0, 7.0 = Stiffest, 8.5 = Moderate, 10.0 = Very Flexible

    Demand Index: how demanding the racket is to use. Range: 1 to 10, 1 = Least, 5 = Average, 10 = Most Demanding

    Stiffness Range Index:
    Cab 22: 7.0-7.5
    Ultra: 7.0-7.5
    RSL X2 Gold: 7.3-7.5
    TC700: 7.3-7.8
    9000-X: 7.8-8.2
    9900: 7.8-8.2
    Ti10 1 Gen: 7.8-8.2
    Trinity: 7.8-8.2
    Ti10 3 Gen: 8.0-8.3
    AT700: 8.0-8.5
    Trinity 2: 8.0-8.5
    Ti10 2 Gen: 8.2-8.5
    AT600: 8.8-9.3
    MP88: 9.0-9.3

    Relative Demand Index:
    TC700: 10.00
    Cab 22: 9.75
    RSL X2 Gold: 9.5
    Ultra: 9.25
    9000-X: 8.25
    Trinity: 8.25
    Ti10 1 Gen: 8.00
    9900: 8.00
    Ti10 3 Gen: 7.75
    AT700: 7.50
    Ti10 2 Gen: 7.25
    Trinity 2: 6.50
    AT600: 6.00
    MP88: 5.00


    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    It is.
    A while back, this is what Panda estimated.
    I believe he wanted the T2 to be like AT700 or 900's stiffness.

    He says T2 is now 15% less stiff than T1,
    and similarly U2 is 15% less stiff than U1. (So, now U2 is as flexy as T1)


    And somewhere a while back, he did mention that the Revelation will be as flexy/stiff as T2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinetan View Post
    would you also make a fully woven trinity?
    There is no plan for that, but you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinetan View Post
    also where do we order for spare grommets? grommets does not last forever right?
    Panda highly recommends Winston Chan of My Badminton Store:

    http://www.mybadmintonstore.com/shop...words=grommets

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