Panda Power: A Racket That Can Take 40lbs. String Tension!

***kwun*** · 06-29-2012, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Fidget

(For the sake of my game, I should have told Dink to forget the racket and parachute in Rudi Gunawan, instead!)

did you see the way he feeds? us mortals won't last 30 seconds!

***kwun*** · 06-29-2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by DinkAlot

Weight: 86.5-88.0g, BP294-298
Removes stock grip adds big towel so BP more like 285-288.
ZM62 @ 29-31lbs.
ZM70 @ 31-32lbs.

that's light. Chandra Kowi has a go at Janet's PPro and he thinks it is light.

in fact, after going back and forth between my MX80 and the PPro for the past few days, i too think the Kwun's Reserve spec is slightly light... maybe another gram will do it good.

**DinkAlot** · 06-29-2012, 12:46 PM

Sir! That's YOUR towel grip modification. Do not think you have all the answers because you do not know all the variables in this situation:

1) Panda has measured some of Casey's racket after the modifications and those were the results.

2) Casey cuts his towel grip extra long, it goes 1"-2" above the cone

3) Casey wets the towel grip with water to make it hard and flat, thinner. He likes the thinnest possible grip to get whip, max wrist snap.

4) Casey uses powder grip and continually packs it on.

5) Panda has measured one Casey used/old towel grip at over 20g! It was a compact brick of sweat, grip powder and water. That was crazy.

Originally Posted by Blitzzards

Sir, my T2 racquets are 85g, BP 295mm and I do the same gripping method as in removing stock grip and adding big towel grip. But the lowest BP I have ever gotten with this towel gripping method is 290mm, unlike your predicted 285-288.

Towel grips could hardly ever be that heavy, seeing that the stock grip weighs approximately 9-10g (note that the stock BP is measured with this 9-10g grip), unless you fully overlap the towel grip which I have yet seen anyone do since that will make it too thick (think G2 or G1).

**Mark A** · 06-29-2012, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Fidget

Speaking of frustration and thin air: i was expecting the pilot who was flying your PPro's from Pandaland to parachute mine out the cockpit window just before he heading out over the Atlantic. It must have gotten lost in the clouds, because I'm still waiting.

(For the sake of my game, I should have told Dink to forget the racket and parachute in Rudi Gunawan, instead!)

You may get mine by the magic of quantum tunneling before customs has finished with them. *drums fingers.

**Blitzzards** · 06-29-2012, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by DinkAlot

Sir! That's YOUR towel grip modification. Do not think you have all the answers because you do not know all the variables in this situation:

1) Panda has measured some of Casey's racket after the modifications and those were the results.

2) Casey cuts his towel grip extra long, it goes 1"-2" above the cone

3) Casey wets the towel grip with water to make it hard and flat, thinner. He likes the thinnest possible grip to get whip, max wrist snap.

4) Casey uses powder grip and continually packs it on.

5) Panda has measured one Casey used/old towel grip at over 20g! It was a compact brick of sweat, grip powder and water. That was crazy.

I see the discrepancy now

I personally also use the Yonex and Ashaway towel grip rolls which are pretty dense compared to the Yonex AC402DX JP and even when I grip over the cone and slightly covering the shaft, I have never exceeded the 10g mark of the stock grip (yes, I have measured the weight and BP as I'm sensitive to weight).

But what you said about Casey is an extremely out of the blue moon case; the act of intentionally wetting the towel grip to make it "feel thinner" and then indirectly increasing the weight, continuously using the towel grip even after it has "bricked up" etc. I personally think he should be using a thinner and lighter/less dense towel grip such as the AC402DX I have mentioned

Congrats on your 12000th post by the way

**ormy4** · 06-29-2012, 05:54 PM

Mine arrived today so will try tonight with vs-850 at 24 lbs [plastic birds]

Kwun get those stick on victor weights

http://victor-international.com/inde...product&id=193

Have them on my old green Precisions work well.

Looking forward to trying tonight.

Don't worry Fidget got a few pics for you.

**ormy4** · 06-29-2012, 06:01 PM

Mine arrived today so will try tonight with vs-850 at 24 lbs [plastic birds]

Kwun get those stick on victor weights

http://victor-international.com/inde...product&id=193

Have them on my old green Precisions work well.

Looking forward to trying tonight.

Don't worry Fidget got a few pics for you.

**ormy4** · 06-29-2012, 10:47 PM

Darn broke a string in the second match. Rushed maybe getting it strung so my fault.

All I can say its very fast, stable, and drives the bird very well. Didn't really get to smash
much or do too much touch shots. Looking forward to trying it again as the speed is kind
of addictive. Does kinda remind me of a MX80 but in my opinion faster but both drive the
bird very well. Once I try it more can give a more accurate report .

**Mark A** · 06-30-2012, 04:43 AM

USPS tracking service: "package delievered to post office as of 10.27 pm, 29th Jun."

Wallets at the ready, EU buyers

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**maa2003** · 06-30-2012, 06:26 AM

Malaysia got already last week boss, but all have been snapped even before the racquets arrived ....

If you interest, may join the next pre-order.

Pricing : http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...65#post1900565

for only serious people .... and please do not compare the price with local brand ...

Originally Posted by mizivincible

Sir Dink,

How about Malaysia ? My last Panda was the Ultra II, it served me for wonderful 3 years before the frame collapsed and couldnt retain tension after the last stringing. Even I have few other latest racket I kept coming back to UII. Replacement is needed and seems the PPP is very promising.

**visor** · 06-30-2012, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by ormy4

Darn broke a string in the second match. Rushed maybe getting it strung so my fault.

All I can say its very fast, stable, and drives the bird very well. Didn't really get to smash
much or do too much touch shots. Looking forward to trying it again as the speed is kind
of addictive. Does kinda remind me of a MX80 but in my opinion faster but both drive the
bird very well. Once I try it more can give a more accurate report .

Faster than a mx80?! Is it just as addictively accurate?

**Staiger1** · 06-30-2012, 03:42 PM

OMG ! as tested by Alistair Casey , I am definitely getting one now !

**Mark A** · 07-02-2012, 03:51 AM

"Payment of charges - Item being held, addressee being notified"

Not long now, folks... Blimey, it's been in the UK longer than it's been in the air!

**Alpinerock** · 07-02-2012, 05:22 AM

Hi Mark A I have pmed you about the Precision Pro.

**Mark A** · 07-03-2012, 04:12 AM

Right - customs cleared, rackets coming tomorrow.

**CanucksDynasty** · 07-03-2012, 12:16 PM

Hmmm...

After playing with my 3U VTZF in a doubles match...ugh...I was really having difficulty in keeping up with the speed of the game. Switch to my N90II and did much better but was still a bit slow around the net. Thinking maybe I should get a pure doubles racket.

I wonder which will be better...Precision Pro or Victor MX JJS?

Decisions, decisions, decisions...

**Benwilluk** · 07-03-2012, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by CanucksDynasty

Hmmm...

After playing with my 3U VTZF in a doubles match...ugh...I was really having difficulty in keeping up with the speed of the game. Switch to my N90II and did much better but was still a bit slow around the net. Thinking maybe I should get a pure doubles racket.

I wonder which will be better...Precision Pro or Victor MX JJS?

Decisions, decisions, decisions...

Here's a plan - buy a Precision Pro - play with it - if you like it, keep it. If you don't like it sell it on and buy an MX JJS in October!

In terms of which will be better - purely a personal decision!