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    @BOUBOS1957

    I'm playing current version. Wait... is there a v.3?

    I didn't know that v.1 is 0.58mm. Where is that mentioned in the Zymax thread? Although now there is a 0.58mm prototype named zm58 for obvious reasons.
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    v1 snaps like dry spaghettini it's incredible

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    Dear Vizor,

    This whole story is a bit confusing.

    - The first test version of the ZM62 (Platinum) that was initially planned, but I believed never sold to the market, was supposedly 58mm.
    I think it did not go thru, even if very high-performance, because it was not durable enough for a company to market.
    But if you are still interested, check with Dink, he can inform you better about the product, but I don't know if he still has any of it: ZM 62 Platinum (58mm). But remember that 18 lbs tension of this string, is like 23-24 lbs with a regular 62 mm. (the white one you have if it is the current one)

    - From what I understand; the version that went to the market, (what you have in hands) ZM62 is 62mm.

    - Now I've heard rumors in an another version; the ZM62 might become 65mm, unless I misunderstood the latest news, because of durability ???
    From previous testing, the 65mm one is very powerful and durable, it should give you the best of the 2 worlds.

    - And I am not aware of a ZM58 prototype???

    Everything seems confusing with Ashaway, but they make a hell of a good string.

    Hope it clarify, otherwise, check with Dink, who is the one with the most knowledge.




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    Thanx for the summary, Boubos.

    Yeah, zm58pt was offered by my local
    panda distributor but I turned it down as the 62 was already a fragile enough and also causing premature wear on the grommets.

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    Great, in a perfect world, with no mishit, the strings would last a lot longer, but with the speed of today's game, who doesn't???

    I really like the 62mm, but once I will be finish with my reels, I will defintely move the 65mm one.

    Again, I believ, it is more of an all around string with the best you can get for durability and performances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUBOS1957 View Post
    Dear Vizor,

    This whole story is a bit confusing.

    - The first test version of the ZM62 (Platinum) that was initially planned, but I believed never sold to the market, was supposedly 58mm.
    I think it did not go thru, even if very high-performance, because it was not durable enough for a company to market.
    But if you are still interested, check with Dink, he can inform you better about the product, but I don't know if he still has any of it: ZM 62 Platinum (58mm). But remember that 18 lbs tension of this string, is like 23-24 lbs with a regular 62 mm. (the white one you have if it is the current one)

    - From what I understand; the version that went to the market, (what you have in hands) ZM62 is 62mm.

    - Now I've heard rumors in an another version; the ZM62 might become 65mm, unless I misunderstood the latest news, because of durability ???
    From previous testing, the 65mm one is very powerful and durable, it should give you the best of the 2 worlds.

    - And I am not aware of a ZM58 prototype???

    Everything seems confusing with Ashaway, but they make a hell of a good string.

    Hope it clarify, otherwise, check with Dink, who is the one with the most knowledge.



    Until folks around here came up with the v3 term regarding Zymax the only ones I knew about where simply: old vs new packaging (v1-v2; which also coincided with a change in the string of course, not just for re-packing/marketing purposes). Old packaging had the platinum colour and was left out and replaced with red for the new packaging which now has black added as a fourth colour ...
    But I'm sure it will be cleared up for good at some point
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    where have all the pandas gone? Any updates on the revalations? I was hoping for pand( A)monium

    Received mine this week. Going to test it out this weekend.

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    No more love for the Revelation?

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    Some people just don't see a point to repeat themselves (or other people) ya know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanucksDynasty View Post
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    How're you doing with yours after you restrung?

    I'm loving mine more and more with zm62 @ 23lbs (1070 Hz).

    But the specs we chose are meant for some heavy hitting, so I'm finding that I get better results when I play "angry" and hit hard.

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    OK guys, sorry, I wanted to wait for more time with the racquets, but here is some of it...

    I received my 2 Rev's 10 days ago, 85 gr BP 288, and strung with the ZM62 Platinum at 18lbs(should play like 22lbs). Played 2 times with them, did not like the string/racquet set-up.

    I had them restrung with same string at 20lbs, played once, much better, but for I don't know what reason; I am having difficulties adapting to the racquet.

    Sometime, especially when I am playing more aggressively; it plays like a magic weapon, and sometime I have trouble getting the best out of it; so I will wait to have more time with it, before posting a definite review. But I can give you my initial thoughts. Here they are.....

    In term of finish; it is the best looking one of the Panda line, the clear coat is definetly a must for any future racquets, and no more racquets should be done without it. The quality clear coat is from the major league.

    Althougth it is the exact same specs; (weight and BP), as my Precision Pro's, the REv's feel heavier and play a bit slower then my PPro's, but I can't figure out why. (Probably material composition ???)

    In term of power (clears/smashes/drives); definetely more power then any other Panda's so far, at least at the same specs. But again, I have not been consistent with it.

    The racquet head is very stable, this gives a lot of control at net play, and very precise for shot placement.

    So far at net killing situation; I feel the racquet head slower and heavier, so I will have to adjust my timing and position for those situation.

    Sweet spot seems a lot larger then previous Panda's, this allow me a lot better control and power on shot not perfectly hit.

    Playing more double than anything, defence and racquet speed is important, and as stated above, I feel it slower; will need some adjustment, not yet ready to comment properly.

    One more thing: after increasing string tension to 20lbs(ZM62 Plat.), I feel like I could get up more tension to enjoy the racquet better. I feel like the racquet is asking me more. I will soon have one of them restrung at 22lbs(which will give me around 26lbs) to compare. I think that this racquet needs to be played at high tension to be able to deliver what it can.

    Probably Dink, who must have tried it at many different tension, could comment???

    I will review this initial review; when I have more experience with the racquet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUBOS1957 View Post
    I received my 2 Rev's 10 days ago, 85 gr BP 288, and strung with the ZM62 Platinum at 18lbs(should play like 22lbs). Played 2 times with them, did not like the string/racquet set-up.

    I had them restrung with same string at 20lbs, played once, much better, but for I don't know what reason; I am having difficulties adapting to the racquet.
    Reading both Visor's and Boubos1957 posts about string tension and their Revelation rackets, I am struck by the low tensions mentioned, 23 for Visor and 20 for Boubos. I am a fairly new convert from racketball to badminton, about two years into badminton. But it seems when I try any racket and any string type at these low tensions, the bird becomes very bouncy and hard to control on drop shots. But get the tension up closer to 30 lbs. and I can "spoon feed" the net drop shots with much better control.

    I was under the impression that everyone can control drop shots better with high tension. But I also remember Dink saying that every player should use the lowest tension possible at which they feel they retain good control. Since Visor and Boubos can retain good control at lower tensions which is hard to do for most players, I guess it means that they are very skilled players. I don't see how they do it.

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    BsMITH: We are playing at these low tension numbers, because we are playing with Zymax 62 Platinum, which is a very thin string, that plays around 4 to 6 pounds more. So my 20 is more like a 25 and the Visor 22 is like a 27 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    @CanucksDynasty

    How're you doing with yours after you restrung?

    I'm loving mine more and more with zm62 @ 23lbs (1070 Hz).

    But the specs we chose are meant for some heavy hitting, so I'm finding that I get better results when I play "angry" and hit hard.
    Haven't change strings yet. Trying it once more with BG80. If I don't like it...I'll change it to thinner strings. I think thin strings would match the racket better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUBOS1957 View Post
    BsMITH: We are playing at these low tension numbers, because we are playing with Zymax 62 Platinum, which is a very thin string, that plays around 4 to 6 pounds more.
    curious as to whether this has this been quantitatively proven?

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    Yonex BG80 has always been a reference point in badminton strings. However, as Dink is saying; you have to find the lowest tension that will fit your playing style and enable you to make the best out of it.

    Remember that more tension is giving you better control, but lower tension will give you more power; trampoline effect. It depends on what you need... and prefer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUBOS1957 View Post
    BsMITH: We are playing at these low tension numbers, because we are playing with Zymax 62 Platinum, which is a very thin string, that plays around 4 to 6 pounds more. So my 20 is more like a 25 and the Visor 22 is like a 27 lbs.
    Yes, its true that thin strings can use lower tensions to feel like thicker strings at higher tensions. But even so, thin strings like Zymax 62 often play better at high tensions. It was Dink and MarkA that put me onto playing with Zymax 62 at 30 lbs. MarkA often uses 31 lbs with Zymax 62. Not sure how platinum ZM62 will react at 30 lbs., but my first generation optic yellow ZM62 will usually last about two weeks at 30 lbs. and plays amazingly well.

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