Panda Power: A Racket That Can Take 40lbs. String Tension!

**DinkAlot** · 06-20-2009, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by Pete LSD

Dink it! I missed the goodies. Need to make another trip to SOCAL.

Yes, you, add Ormy and Wolffie from the GWN. I'll drag that Non-Pumping Heart (Silent) over too from Chicago...

You guys plus Guava, Panda, Coach Don and Halim...that would be a great time!

**DinkAlot** · 06-20-2009, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by guavawang

Panda, I agree with you! I am unable to flex the Ultra on a consistent bases and, the string tension is just too high for me to do anything with it.

however I did not really get a good chance to use the Ultra due to the high tension.

There will be a warning sticker on the Ultra:

WARNING!!! This racket should NOT be strung any lower than 30lbs. ECP. Doing so voids the warranty.

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**twobeer** · 06-20-2009, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by DinkAlot

There will be a warning sticker on the Ultra:

WARNING!!! This racket should NOT be strung any lower than 30lbs. ECP. Doing so voids the warranty.

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Ha, ha!! So extremely cool

/Twobeer

**ormy4** · 06-20-2009, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by DinkAlot

Yes, you, add Ormy and Wolffie from the GWN. I'll drag that Non-Pumping Heart (Silent) over too from Chicago...

You guys plus Guava, Panda, Coach Don and Halim...that would be a great time!

Would be great

Now that the Canadian dollar is up may be able to pick up the tab on the noodle after match snack.

**racquetattack** · 06-20-2009, 05:36 PM

Sounds cool, but looks like the stringer had better wear glasses for this one. I am sure the strings will break often and if the frame makes contact with the floor it will too. Good luck with this one. I guess they will have to make the strings stronger too.

**DinkAlot** · 06-20-2009, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by racquetattack

Sounds cool, but looks like the stringer had better wear glasses for this one. I am sure the strings will break often and if the frame makes contact with the floor it will too. Good luck with this one. I guess they will have to make the strings stronger too.

Please clarify.

Both the Trinity and Ultra have standard string patterns. There will be no damage to the string as none of the string is exposed on the middle to top half of the racket, which is a standard design on all rackets.

**racquetattack** · 06-20-2009, 06:17 PM

I meant that most string will not take this tension, especially if the bird is hit near the edge of the frame. Also the stress put on this frame if it makes contact with the floor at this tension will surely damage the frame.

**DinkAlot** · 06-20-2009, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by racquetattack

I meant that most string will not take this tension, especially if the bird is hit near the edge of the frame. Also the stress put on this frame if it makes contact with the floor at this tension will surely damage the frame.

You are making assumptions. I have designed these rackets to take ultra high tension and still survive, relatively speaking.

**racquetattack** · 06-20-2009, 06:33 PM

Great, I was not trying to say that the racquet would not be strong enough, but that most string could not take the tension and would break for sure. Back in the early 80's Bjorn Borg would string his tennis racquets at about 82lbs. The strings would only last a couple games, but that was how he liked it . If you can find a string that can be strung on a badminton frame over 40lbs and consistently hold up well then that would be great.

**racquetattack** · 06-20-2009, 06:35 PM

If these frames will still play well with tensions in the 20's I am sure they will sell. Most players will still string their frames in the 20-30 range.

**DinkAlot** · 06-20-2009, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by racquetattack

Great, I was not trying to say that the racquet would not be strong enough, but that most string could not take the tension and would break for sure. Back in the early 80's Bjorn Borg would string his tennis racquets at about 82lbs. The strings would only last a couple games, but that was how he liked it . If you can find a string that can be strung on a badminton frame over 40lbs and consistently hold up well then that would be great.

Sorry, there's a bit of misunderstanding here:

1) I stated the racket could take 40lbs. of tension but I also stated a few times there's no string currently available that can, at least not with any durability.

2) I used to string my rackets around 31-32lbs. with MP. At that tension, I would break 2-3 strings every time I played so I know about breaking string.

3) I've said many times I do not condone high tension, in fact I condone the lowest string tension that you can tolerate (still play with).

4) My goal with the Ultra was to create a racket than can take ultra high tension and still be durable. And I believe I've done that. After 6 months of testing, the Ultra is one of the most durable rackets I've tried (actually the most). It's not unbreakable (nothing truly is), but for a badminton racket, it's very durable and performs well...

...you'll see.

**DinkAlot** · 06-20-2009, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by racquetattack

If these frames will still play well with tensions in the 20's I am sure they will sell. Most players will still string their frames in the 20-30 range.

I created and tested both rackets in the 25-30lbs. range. I only tried 35-38lbs. on the Ultra where the string didn't last long; anywhere from a few clears to 15 minutes max.

I didn't have any BG65 or BG70 handy, I'm sure those strings will last longer.

**Sportech** · 06-20-2009, 10:01 PM

wow, that means the Ultra is totally for pros, i wonder what will happen if i string the Ultra at 25 lbs.....and that means Ultra is mostly for males, huh??? I know women players
like Wang Lin string at 30-31 lbs......

**DinkAlot** · 06-21-2009, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Sportech

wow, that means the Ultra is totally for pros, i wonder what will happen if i string the Ultra at 25 lbs.....and that means Ultra is mostly for males, huh??? I know women players
like Wang Lin string at 30-31 lbs......

The Ultra plays just fine at 25lbs.

Though there are suggestions/recommendations, racket preference just that. I've had quite a few beginners to advanced beginners try the Ultra and they loved it. They loved the solid feel and said they will buy when it's available.

My ultimate recommendation, if you like a racket, use it. Why? If you like a racket, you will feel better. Now why do you play badminton? To feel better, it gives you satisfaction. If a racket can provide that, it doesn't matter what anyone, or anything (science) says.

Amen? Amen!

**weeyeh** · 06-21-2009, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by DinkAlot

If a racket can provide that, it doesn't matter what anyone, or anything (science) says.

Amen? Amen!

Amen indeed. This insight is lost when the advertisers got their hands on scientific sounding terms (like Nano).

**Gemcat** · 06-21-2009, 09:23 PM

Exactly. Who cares about Nano, Titanium and Ultimum Ti for the win!

Though I still love my Nanospeeds.

**twobeer** · 06-22-2009, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by Gemcat

Exactly. Who cares about Nano, Titanium and Ultimum Ti for the win!

Though I still love my Nanospeeds.

hmm.. of course we care about Nano, Ultium Ti etc.. Just as we care weather it is graphite or wood

Material and overal design + technology IS what makes a racket feel good or bad.. But just as driving a car you as a player canbe totally igonorant of the technology and just enjoy the fruits of the labour, advances from wood - steel - graphite - stronger/lighter graphite (nano) etc.. lots of testing/design etc from racket makers progressing and pushing the envelope on design and material used..

/Twobeer