Panda Power: A Racket That Can Take 40lbs. String Tension!

**DinkAlot** · 08-31-2009, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by george@chongwei

lol panda, this is insane.

i wonder how strong are your wrist?

and how fast and hard are your smashes

Will be uploading a video of the Panda doing some warm-up stuff tonight or tomorrow. Nothing special just many people asking what Panda does to warm-up.

**singnflip4life** · 08-31-2009, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by jamesshieh88

soon our rackets are going to be strung in the tension realm of tennis rackets!

no doubt soon enough we'll have the ability to. The real question is who will be able to utilize such madness?

**hunterkillerz** · 09-05-2009, 08:37 PM

Any idea when the Revelation + Trinity II will be out Dan? thx

**arfandy** · 09-05-2009, 09:19 PM

Kumpoo PowerShot P830 & P800 can also go upto 40lbs.

**jymbalaya** · 09-05-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by arfandy

Kumpoo PowerShot P830 & P800 can also go upto 40lbs.

As can a Carlton AS1, and the Fleet Woven 2U rackets. your point?

**DinkAlot** · 09-06-2009, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by singnflip4life

no doubt soon enough we'll have the ability to. The real question is who will be able to utilize such madness?

40lbs. string tension is only good for novelty purposes. I do not condone using it or trying it for any extended period of time.

40lbs. is already useable. I tried it for about 15 minutes. The clears sounded like smashes and the smashes sounded like thunder as people from other courts would look over because the sound was so different. But, there's absolutely no power. When you smash, the shuttle shoots like a bullet for the first 10-15 feet and then it's like a parachute opens up and the shuttle looses all its velocity.

Again, 40lbs. string tension is only good for novelty purposes. I do not condone using it.

Panda has said this before and will say it again: try to use the lowest tension you can tolerate that won't adversely affect your game. There are many benefits to this:

1) Less stress on the string
2) Less stress on the racket
3) Less stress on a person's arm
4) Better form. If you string too high and cannot wield it, you will have bad form; you will have a loopy, jerky inconsistent swing trying to muscle the shuttle out.

**DinkAlot** · 09-06-2009, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by hunterkillerz

Any idea when the Revelation + Trinity II will be out Dan? thx

The racket manufacturer is backed-up with many orders currently. So the Revelation and Trinity 2 won't be available for at least 3 months.

In about 40 days, I hope to have the revised 2nd generation Ultra in stock. Since the original Ultra and Trinity were made, I learned a lot of little minor things and have incorporated what is pertinent.

The changes:

1) revised graphics, eliminated decals on most of the frame which soften the outer frame, that's mostly why over time, the grommets sink in and the string eats into the graphite.

2) stronger thinner clearcoat, minimizing paint chips. Couple the thinner clearcoat and the elimination of decals, the frame will be a bit thinner, a bit more aerodynamic.

3) Dropped BP 5mm to 285

4) Reduced stiffness from 7.0 -7.3 to 7.5 - 7.8

5) Racket weight available: 82-88g

These changes, though seemlingly small, will make the Ultra much more user friendly and more durable. It will minimize sinking grommets and paint chips.

The generation two Ultra should be useable and appeal to many more people.

**Nuetronist** · 09-06-2009, 12:35 AM

Any changes to the trinity?

**DinkAlot** · 09-06-2009, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Nuetronist

Any changes to the trinity?

Yep:

1) minimal the use of decals
2) superior clearcoat
3) revised graphics due to # 1 and 2
4) upgrade to Toray M40GC for the frame

Will keep the same BP and stiffness

**dorysan** · 09-06-2009, 08:08 AM

so where is the video of the play with the 40lbs?

**hunterkillerz** · 09-06-2009, 10:29 AM

thx for the update, cant wait till the 2nd gens are available

**krisss** · 09-06-2009, 12:03 PM

My friend is considering either a ZELM Powerplay 9990 or Panda's Ultra (both are head heavy and stiff)

I am getting a few ZELM Powerplay's because they suit my attacking needs , and when I do I will lend it to my friend to test.

But he asked , if would still be aloud to buy first Gen Ultra , because it has a higher B.P than the new one.

Would that be possible?

**Pete LSD** · 09-06-2009, 12:44 PM

Don't reduce stiffness

Originally Posted by DinkAlot

The racket manufacturer is backed-up with many orders currently. So the Revelation and Trinity 2 won't be available for at least 3 months.

In about 40 days, I hope to have the revised 2nd generation Ultra in stock. Since the original Ultra and Trinity were made, I learned a lot of little minor things and have incorporated what is pertinent.

The changes:

1) revised graphics, eliminated decals on most of the frame which soften the outer frame, that's mostly why over time, the grommets sink in and the string eats into the graphite.

2) stronger thinner clearcoat, minimizing paint chips. Couple the thinner clearcoat and the elimination of decals, the frame will be a bit thinner, a bit more aerodynamic.

3) Dropped BP 5mm to 285

4) Reduced stiffness from 7.0 -7.3 to 7.5 - 7.8

5) Racket weight available: 82-88g

These changes, though seemlingly small, will make the Ultra much more user friendly and more durable. It will minimize sinking grommets and paint chips.

The generation two Ultra should be useable and appeal to many more people.

**DinkAlot** · 09-06-2009, 04:29 PM

Though the Zelm is stiff, it cannot be compared to the Ultra. The Ultra is way stiffer and much more demanding. Of course this is comparing same weight and BP rackets.

There are no more first generation Ultras, I'm all sold out.

I only have a few demos or used ones, that's about it.

Originally Posted by krisss

My friend is considering either a ZELM Powerplay 9990 or Panda's Ultra (both are head heavy and stiff)

I am getting a few ZELM Powerplay's because they suit my attacking needs , and when I do I will lend it to my friend to test.

But he asked , if would still be aloud to buy first Gen Ultra , because it has a higher B.P than the new one.

Would that be possible?

**DinkAlot** · 09-06-2009, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Pete LSD

Don't reduce stiffness

I need to reduce the stiffness to make it more user friendly. Just about every person I have seen play (who has purchased an Ultra) cannot flex the shaft. Most of them, not even close.

But hey, if a person has the money and wants to purchase something or likes something and wants it regardless why, it's his/her right. I'm not going to stop 'em.

**DinkAlot** · 09-18-2009, 04:43 PM

Update:

I need to update the Racket Review. If you have any of the following rackets you would like to trade (in new or in mint condition), please e-mail me at: dinkalotdan AT gmail DOT com (we can figure out an equitable trade after you tell me what you have to offer).

1) Any Li Ning rackets
2) Any new Victor rackets
3) Any country code Yonex racket made in the last two years
4) Any new Carlton Rackets
5) Any new Babolat Rackets
6) Heck, any new rackets that are popular or want to be reviewed.

Thanks!

**ViningWolff** · 09-18-2009, 11:29 PM

Okay, I finally started playing again and playedwith the Ultra and I'm impressed. I was a little worries at first as it felt light when I got it, but as soon as I stripped off the grip tape and went to a single wrap of prince overgrip that I do withh all the raquets, it felt much more head heavy.

It's only a hint stiffer than the Forza Sp-9000 that I play with so there is minimal flex which I need with my power. One things I noticed is that the joint on my SPs are thicker than the Ultra.

My swing is still stiff from taking the summer off, but I can already tell the Ultra will give great nasty smash power and based on the few net tricks I tried, is very responsive at the net. feedback on shots was decent... Going to keep playing with it with the intention of putting into active duty.. I may have to get another one as a back up.

if anyone doesn't like their ultra, I'll take it!!!