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    yeah, it is very exciting time...the whole CHN vs one little Thai girl...
    yes, it is going to be tough for her...


    BTW, to @OneToughBirdie , based on the response to the below post, BCers will be appreciate that if you prefer to call her with 3-letter word, you would call her "MAY" instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by gjoo888 View Post
    I know that most of you that refer to Ratchanok as "Rat" mean no ill-will and use the name endearingly, but in Thailand (like most other places) to call someone a "Rat" is very demeaning and insulting to say the least.

    I think she deserves better than being called Rat, and she does speak very good English, so she does know what the word means in English. Her nickname, as many of you know, is May or Nong May (little sister May), I think the World Champion deserves a little more respect than to be called a Rat.

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    It is all up to the Thai establishments now. This little Thai girl has done all she could. And yes, you cannot expect her to beat the world. Badminton is hugely popular in Thailand and the establishments should use this little girl's success as a springboard to better things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvenBetter View Post
    yeah, it is very exciting time...the whole CHN vs one little Thai girl...
    yes, it is going to be tough for her...
    THA will have to get some pointers from MAS and combine with theirs to challenge CHN.
    MS : Whole of CHN vs LCW
    WS : Whole of CHN ws RI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvenBetter View Post
    yeah, it is very exciting time...the whole CHN vs one little Thai girl...
    yes, it is going to be tough for her...


    BTW, to @OneToughBirdie , based on the response to the below post, BCers will be appreciate that if you prefer to call her with 3-letter word, you would call her "MAY" instead.
    My apology to everyone...I wrote that 3-letter name as I read previously in BC, I will use May...if RI happens to read BC, my apology to you.

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    It will be difficult for Ratchanok to win China SS. She doesn't have time to practice as much as she used to because she was very busy travelling to recieve awards from many sponsors (Which is good, this is her time to earn her rewards for all hard works).

    I guess she will not perform well in both China and Japan SS.

    I expect her to reach her regular practice level after these two SS and hope she will rebound in Denmark SSP and France SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    THA will have to get some pointers from MAS and combine with theirs to challenge CHN.
    MS : Whole of CHN vs LCW
    WS : Whole of CHN ws RI.
    disagree
    the winning % of tty against china ws is higher than RI

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    disagree
    the winning % of tty against china ws is higher than RI
    Well, Yes and No!

    On the surface, it feel like that if we did just as most people did i.e. looking at the H2H record only.
    However, when digging into details H2H of both players against top CHN players (Current & Former World No.1 and World Champions) there it is interesting to find that most of TTY win is since 2011 and she never won any of encounters in 2012 and 2013.

    So, looking at the trend RI is better.

    In fact, if you calculate winning rate by using simple method i.e take #won match/total match played over 4 years, yes TTY is better. However, if you take into account that the most recent results reflect better in prediction of future performance (similar system as that used in other sport like Volleyball ranking system where it discounts point from event in earlier year by 25%, 50%, 75% respectively), then it is RI that have better wining rate.

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    Last but not least, this has nothing to do with TTY favoritism. She, indeed, is one of my favorite player. The Uber Cup match between these two youngsters is just awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvenBetter View Post
    Well, Yes and No!

    On the surface, it feel like that if we did just as most people did i.e. looking at the H2H record only.
    However, when digging into details H2H of both players against top CHN players (Current & Former World No.1 and World Champions) there it is interesting to find that most of TTY win is since 2011 and she never won any of encounters in 2012 and 2013.

    So, looking at the trend RI is better.

    In fact, if you calculate winning rate by using simple method i.e take #won match/total match played over 4 years, yes TTY is better. However, if you take into account that the most recent results reflect better in prediction of future performance (similar system as that used in other sport like Volleyball ranking system where it discounts point from event in earlier year by 25%, 50%, 75% respectively), then it is RI that have better wining rate.

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    Last but not least, this has nothing to do with TTY favoritism. She, indeed, is one of my favorite player. The Uber Cup match between these two youngsters is just awesome.
    First of all, this is RI's thread. Nothing to do with TTY here. Infact, she is also improving a lot in recent times. But that does not mean, we need to compare both the players' talents in this thread.
    This is totally unnecessary .

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    I think it is nonsense that other players can't be mentioned especially in this case when both names have been brought into discussion. This is an open forum.

    There is nothing wrong to compare the players' performance and to do so by doing some research to back up one's opinion is indeed most welcome.

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    I agree that recent results and performances count for more as it should be, EvenBetter's argument is sound. Indeed, Intanon R has outstripped TTY and looks set to continue doing so in the near future.

    But TTY is still young, same as IR, and I believe she will continue to improve as she matures though I tend to think less so for any player however young who has been in the international circuit for more than 5/6 years. I mean 5 or 6 years of active competition should give us a good indication of any player's real potential except for the late bloomers (but they are few in numbers).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    I think it is nonsense that other players can't be mentioned especially in this case when both names have been brought into discussion. This is an open forum.

    There is nothing wrong to compare the players' performance and to do so by doing some research to back up one's opinion is indeed most welcome.
    Yeah, this is what people do in the civilization part of the world and, indeed, this is the habit that any noble institutions encourage their people to do. Doing research and share it with people, if every BCer do this more often, I'm sure this forum will be more interesting, will attract more people and will have more constructive participants.
    Last edited by EvenBetter; 09-05-2013 at 03:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvenBetter View Post
    Well, Yes and No!

    On the surface, it feel like that if we did just as most people did i.e. looking at the H2H record only.
    However, when digging into details H2H of both players against top CHN players (Current & Former World No.1 and World Champions) there it is interesting to find that most of TTY win is since 2011 and she never won any of encounters in 2012 and 2013.

    So, looking at the trend RI is better.

    In fact, if you calculate winning rate by using simple method i.e take #won match/total match played over 4 years, yes TTY is better. However, if you take into account that the most recent results reflect better in prediction of future performance (similar system as that used in other sport like Volleyball ranking system where it discounts point from event in earlier year by 25%, 50%, 75% respectively), then it is RI that have better wining rate.

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    Last but not least, this has nothing to do with TTY favoritism. She, indeed, is one of my favorite player. The Uber Cup match between these two youngsters is just awesome.
    thanks for your effort. actually my excel consist more player,like han li,xia jing yun,yao xue,zhu lin and co.
    anyway,this is no volleyball.
    at 1st i want to state that i am the 1st person who said in bc(if not in the world,haha)that she(RI) will made it big(u can back track to 2009 ajc thread)

    back to the topic
    the fact is,TTY winning rate against china ws is higher than RI(28%>19%)

    RI,TTY and mitani minatsu is my fave ws.
    my priority is all of them doing well against china ws,that's it
    peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    ...at 1st i want to state that i am the 1st person who said in bc(if not in the world,haha)that she(RI) will made it big(u can back track to 2009 ajc thread)...
    No doubt, give you all the credit for that, sharp eye!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpion1 View Post
    First of all, this is RI's thread. Nothing to do with TTY here. Infact, she is also improving a lot in recent times. But that does not mean, we need to compare both the players' talents in this thread.
    This is totally unnecessary .
    The specialist "limsy" who begins compare both players because he isn't real fan for Ratchanok .

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    Bantongyod just announced that Ratchanok injured her back from practice field. If her back is not getting better in next few days, then she has to withdraw from China Open.

    Sad for everyone who wanna see her form after WC.

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    Comparing TTY and RI now is like comparing stocks like Apple and Google a few years ago.

    Do I buy the one with the most established good record of share price increase or the one with the most promise of future share price increase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XoXoXo View Post
    hehe I can't help this crazy talented child prodigy, not only broke many records :

    - The youngest WJC
    - 3x WJC in a row
    - The youngest All England finalist
    - The youngest SS winner
    - The youngest WC (also Thailand first ever WC)
    ------------ I see The Legend in the making --------------

    but also well mannered, very polite, and like to smile (just like TTY)

    Yeah I'm a fan before.. and now I'm officially a big fan!!
    I'm very proud Thailand should be very proud

    I wish May good health, long career, and always have that good respectful attitude
    I want to give this post a thousand like

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