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    ^ Agree. She's going too close for the sidelines and tapes and ends up unnecessarily losing points when she misses. She needs to give herself more room for error and be more patient in outmanoeuvring her opponent.

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    Default Ratchanok makes me laugh

    ..

    She climbs a tree and scrapes her knee
    Her shoe has got a tear
    She waltzes on her way to the Semis
    And whistles at the chair
    And underneath her fun-n-games
    She has steel hidden in there
    Ive even heard her singing as she rallies

    She's always late for fast clears
    But her smashes are for real
    She's always late for anything
    Thats too easy to kill
    I hate to have to say it
    But I very firmly feel
    Ratchanoks still between the cub and tigress

    I'd like to say a word in her behalf
    Ratchanok makes me laugh

    How do you solve a problem like Ratchanok?
    How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
    How do you find a word that means Ratchanok?
    A flibbertijibbet! A will-o'-the wisp! A clown!

    Many a thing you know you'd like to tell her
    Many a thing she ought to understand
    But how do you make her stay
    And listen to all you say
    How do you keep a wave upon the sand

    Oh, how do you solve a problem like Ratchanok?
    How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?

    When I see her I'm confused
    Out of focus and bemused
    And I never know exactly where I am
    Unpredictable as weather
    She's as flighty as a feather
    She's a darling! She's a demon! She's a lamb!

    She'd outpester any pest
    Drive a shuttle past the best
    She could throw a whirling Sindhu out of whirl
    She is gentle! She is wild!
    She's a riddle! She's a child!
    She's a headache! She's an angel!
    She's a girl!

    How do you solve a problem like Ratchanok?
    How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
    How do you find a word that means Ratchanok?
    A flibbertijibbet! A will-o'-the wisp! A clown!

    Many a thing you know you'd like to tell her
    Many a thing she ought to understand
    But how do you make her stay
    And listen to all you say
    How do you keep a wave upon the sand

    Oh, how do you solve a problem like Ratchanok?
    How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?

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    Just my two cents:

    Ratchanok Inthanon, Saina Nehwal and Hafiz Hashim have something in common... they get into serious trouble as soon as they are forced to play under or above their usual speed.

    If you play against such players at their choice of speed, they will make short work of you.
    (Hafiz tormenting Lin Dan at the 2011 China Masters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkTsZNPVO5Y)

    But if you force them to play well outside their comfort zone (and this can be either slower or faster), they crumble rather quickly.

    Players like Morten Frost, Hendrawan, Wong Choong Han, Taufik Hidayat and Peter Gade were very good at preventing the opponent from slowing down or speeding up the game. To some extent, lee Hyun-Il too was able to do this for many, many years.

    And then there are those like Lin Dan who can play a consistent error-free game at any speed, slow or fast.

    Ratchanok is incredibly good when she has her opponent locked into the 'Ratchanok speed'.
    But, time and again, we are seeing her fail as soon as the pace moves into a higher gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldhand View Post
    Just my two cents:

    Ratchanok Inthanon, Saina Nehwal and Hafiz Hashim have something in common... they get into serious trouble as soon as they are forced to play under or above their usual speed.

    If you play against such players at their choice of speed, they will make short work of you.
    (Hafiz tormenting Lin Dan at the 2011 China Masters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkTsZNPVO5Y)

    But if you force them to play well outside their comfort zone (and this can be either slower or faster), they crumble rather quickly.

    Players like Morten Frost, Hendrawan, Wong Choong Han, Taufik Hidayat and Peter Gade were very good at preventing the opponent from slowing down or speeding up the game. To some extent, lee Hyun-Il too was able to do this for many, many years.

    And then there are those like Lin Dan who can play a consistent error-free game at any speed, slow or fast.

    Ratchanok is incredibly good when she has her opponent locked into the 'Ratchanok speed'.
    But, time and again, we are seeing her fail as soon as the pace moves into a higher gear.
    A very interesting,plausible point I must say. If Intanon's opponent plays at her pace, what you called 'Ratchanok speed', she is in her element, dictating the rally and commanding the game - outside of it whether at a higher or lower gear, she comes a cropper.

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    Faltering when forced to play at higher than comfortable speed, yes. But not at lower speed. I'd love all my opponents to play me at lower speed.

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    RI is doing fine - she's still young and after winning all the junior and senior world titles, let
    her make her mistakes and learn and gain experience. Its difficult for her being young and
    still inexperience and the all WS players gunning for her scalp.

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    That's a very creative nod to one of my favourite musicals and movies, The Sound of Music.

    Thanks for that, cobalt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    ..

    She climbs a tree and scrapes her knee
    Her shoe has got a tear
    She's a headache! She's an angel!
    She's a girl!

    ........................
    Oh, how do you solve a problem like Ratchanok?
    How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?
    Maybe May should change her name to Maria with cobalt's blessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrinalini View Post
    That's a very creative nod to one of my favourite musicals and movies, The Sound of Music.

    Thanks for that, cobalt!
    LOL, you're welcome! I tried not to mess with the original too much- it's an all-time classic after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Maybe May should change her name to Maria with cobalt's blessing.
    Nah, May is just fine! I just wanted to illustrate the point that May is still a teenager, in development and discovery mode despite all the immense stuff she has won so far.

    What I was trying to say was, May -or her play- is not the problem. Just like R&H illustrated that Maria is not the problem. The "problem" is in the expectations and values that others impose on the subject.

    My personal feeling about May is that she is one of the handful of WS players who have come along so far, who are naturally gifted above and beyond most other pros. (Maybe TTY could be included from the present crop, but I personally think the all-time #1 slot will be held by Mia Audina.) But like all players with exceptional natural gifts, they make their own path because they want to indulge in that special gift. This makes them more temperamental than most others, but it also makes the game so much more exciting and alive. The important thing is that May must be given her space, but also have coaches and support staff who understand, encourage and assist her in her growth and evolution in every way.

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    [QUOTE=cobalt;2189288]I personally think the all-time #1 slot will be held by Mia Audina.

    What about Susi?

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    Dear Cobalt:
    I am interested to know who you think are some of the naturall gifted MS players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thira View Post
    Dear Cobalt:
    I am interested to know who you think are some of the naturall gifted MS players?
    LD without hesitation. But there's already a thread for that.

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    What would happen if LYB agrees to take RI under his wings?

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    He will never do that...he is too nationalistic...

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    Default Mayday

    Not sure if this has been posted before in the forum. Apparently there's a documentary short video series of Ratchanok aka May about her daily life, badminton life, family, etc produced by local Thai sports channel available on youtube. Unfortunately no subs are available, however, just watching the video and May's face is more than enough to sums up what the video is all about.

    There's total of 22 episodes available.

    Here's the link>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...G5jvoTMO3Ak_gX

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    Happy birthday to" May".
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