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    Quote Originally Posted by hcpoirot View Post
    The MS will be a bit boring if either one of Lin Dan or Lee Chong Wei did not play each other in the same era. Can you imagine if Lin Dan did not had LCW as his nemesis or LCW standing alone without LD?

    Hope we can see more of their meeting in the future where they will play the best that they can to entertain us.
    in reality, LD is No.1 with or without LCW,
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    LCW still may not be the unbeatable player if there was no LD.

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    Just watched this.
    LD is definately the best singles player in the world at the moment however, i believe the difference is the belief to win even when falling behin/errors made in the game. LD seems to dig very deep into his game despite playing not up to his 100%, whilst LCW will get phased easier when he is behind or when making mistakes.
    It is clearly seen that they both have each other to thank as they have both improved so much in the game that the difference between 2nd and 3rd in the world is wide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreverlove View Post
    even you go up there and play, no one WILL do that to you, that's will be too humiliate.
    I play badminton, not very good or even average but every time I was on court after I scored a few points with no reply and I will start to work toward a whitewash, a love game. it was easier in the old scoring system but for the 21 points it's almost impossible, at least for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    I play badminton, not very good or even average but every time I was on court after I scored a few points with no reply and I will start to work toward a whitewash, a love game. it was easier in the old scoring system but for the 21 points it's almost impossible, at least for me.
    A love game is very likely if you play against LD or LCW, or even any professional players.

    If you watched the game between LD and No.6 seed Joachim Persson

    or the game between LCW and Ville Lang in AE 2009 you will agree with me.

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    LCW lack of attacking play, maybe focus alot on defence and moving around the court.... now he should focus on his attacking imho... and he's still mentally weak when he start making mistakes. But overall lovely match...
    LD wants to win so much when playing against LCW, I can see that he gives his very best. He does not look down on LCW and take things lightly...

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    Definitely wasn't a whitewash, regardless of the score. There was some good rallies and both players hit a little running streak.

    I think LCW didn't attack enough but when he did he won most of the points.

    I thought LD was pretty fired up for this game and showed it with his gestures after winning points and at the end of the match.

    I would be jumping up and down if i got any points against the no. 1 let alone beat him. (This won't be happening).

    Also agree LD looked pretty pumped up on his physique, arms and shoulders looked awesome. Don't know what training hes been doing but surely will help his game.

    Anybody else notice he went sleeveless in this game, the earlier game against Andrew Smith (UK), he was wearing normal type. Probably knew he would sweat more and require better movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lagigolo View Post
    Anybody else notice he went sleeveless in this game, the earlier game against Andrew Smith (UK), he was wearing normal type. Probably knew he would sweat more and require better movement.
    intimidation!! LD is a size or two bigger than LCW, if you can use it to your advantage, why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lagigolo View Post
    Definitely wasn't a whitewash, regardless of the score. There was some good rallies and both players hit a little running streak.

    I think LCW didn't attack enough but when he did he won most of the points.

    I thought LD was pretty fired up for this game and showed it with his gestures after winning points and at the end of the match.

    I would be jumping up and down if i got any points against the no. 1 let alone beat him. (This won't be happening).

    Also agree LD looked pretty pumped up on his physique, arms and shoulders looked awesome. Don't know what training hes been doing but surely will help his game.

    Anybody else notice he went sleeveless in this game, the earlier game against Andrew Smith (UK), he was wearing normal type. Probably knew he would sweat more and require better movement.
    When LCW attacked with smashes, they were defended quite easily, and that took a toll on him in the next few rallies.

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    LD is simply the best, hands down, much better than LCW...

    Yes, LD is not invincible and LCW did beat LD this year, once or twice every year as well in the past. However, the best in the world need not to win every and each match, but the one that possess the ability to win whenever matters and have a winning head-to-head record with their major rivals. (No world best in any sports could have 100% head-to-head winning over their rivals, look at Tiger Woods, Nadal, Federer, Lance Armstrong, Steffi Graf... etc, but everyone could still remember them as the best in their era and no-one would deny such by simply quoting their ever defeats by their closest rivals.).

    LCW is simply the best runners-up and LD's closest rival, and he also is a class above the rest of contenders for this post, at least for the moment. Similarly, occassional defeat to other contenders does not deprive him from such fact.

    Their last match at Sudirman Cup semi is the best reflection of their abilities, even a more true reflection that their OG final, in my opinion.

    In OG08, LCW was caught by surprise on LD's sudden raise of level and thwarted by the atmosphere, and resulted in a lopside defeat.

    In last weekend's match, both were well prepared for the match last Saturday, both were at their top form, physically and mentally, both were concentrated in the match and with played with good confidence. There were many deception plays, but almost all were returned, seemed that both players were able to predict the possible deception plays from their opponent.

    Both players fully demonstrated the features of their technical characteristics in this match:
    LD:
    more aggressive in general, more lethal attacks, but also more unforced errors (you could look at their statistics, LD lost much more points on UF errors than LCW), mostly in control of the match pace, able to change tactics to take crucial points when necessary.
    LCW:
    more patient, more consistent (much fewer unforced errors, and therefore won more long-rally plays), good at defence, many deceptive plays.
    This match could be a classic technique teachning materials for years as both players demonstrated full range and good display of badminton techniques and strategies.

    Credit to both players, they make badminton more spectacular and attractive.

    Credit to LCW, without him, LD may lack a major incentive in keeping him pushed for better games and brought the best out of himself (just look at LD's match at the final with PSH...)

    ... btw, also simply hope LCW could talk less and do more to become a real rival to LD (I was simply not impressed by LCW's statement before Sudirman Cup that he was never beaten by LD in team events, which in fact just had 2 meetings previously..., such lip service just reminded people his lack of confidence in beating LD)
    ... hope he would not say he is still holding a leading 2-1 head-to-head in team events over LD prior to next year's TC in Malaysia....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    ... btw, also simply hope LCW could talk less and do more to become a real rival to LD (I was simply not impressed by LCW's statement before Sudirman Cup that he was never beaten by LD in team events, which in fact just had 2 meetings previously..., such lip service just reminded people his lack of confidence in beating LD)
    not to mention that one was when CHN was already 4-0 up in the tie.

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    LD is getting beefy too. I wonder if he has ever been tested for drugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by yen_saw View Post
    LD is getting beefy too. I wonder if he has ever been tested for drugs
    Drug testing is mandatory at the Olympic Games.
    And he's had this physique for a long time now

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    intimidation!! LD is a size or two bigger than LCW, if you can use it to your advantage, why not?
    Owh, i did recalled AE'03 Final. Hafiz vs Chen Hong. Not so much different, though. HAfiz was so .. skinny. ~ .

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    Quote Originally Posted by koo_fan View Post
    Owh, i did recalled AE'03 Final. Hafiz vs Chen Hong. Not so much different, though. HAfiz was so .. skinny. ~ .
    Hafiz was actually fit... what a rare occurance

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    Quote Originally Posted by volcom View Post
    Hafiz was actually fit... what a rare occurance
    I suggest you are talking about the '03 Ae winner. Because ..hafiz ? fit?

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    Fit may not equal to muscle mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    intimidation!! LD is a size or two bigger than LCW, if you can use it to your advantage, why not?
    Quote Originally Posted by koo_fan View Post
    Owh, i did recalled AE'03 Final. Hafiz vs Chen Hong. Not so much different, though. HAfiz was so .. skinny. ~ .
    Quote Originally Posted by ants View Post
    Fit may not equal to muscle mass.
    ..Kenneth Jonassen, Peter Gade, Joachim Persson in comparison to LCW??..i'm sure the former 3 are probably more "studly" looking than LCW..Yet, LCW probably has better records against them..

    I think between LD vs. LCW, it all boils down to LD, himself. If he wants it, he can and will get it done. Time to look fw to the WC in August for another round between these 2 players..
    Last edited by ctjcad; 05-18-2009 at 12:21 PM.

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