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    What KKK did wrong is using a language that everyone can understand -- body language ...

    Quote Originally Posted by zqloy View Post
    Cant understand the big fuss bout the finger. Even swearing has become such a norm to players. Not that i approve that type of behaviour but seriously, players r just human. Speaking of insulting the international audience, KKK's tiny finger is nothing compare to Chelsea's Drogba.

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    what game was this? was this against the koreans?

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    Default ^^Started here..^^

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...=64177&page=51 (starting w/post #851)..Semifinal round..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..since a few BCers have demanded an apology from KKK over his clip, i was thinking these are the few entities that should receive an apology:
    1. His Yonex racket
    2. Gillian Clark
    3. The entire MAS tv viewers
    4. The entire CHN tv viewers
    5. The rest of the world tv viewers
    6. The rest of the webstream viewers
    7. Those not aware of what happened but are now emotionally affected by the picture
    8. kwun and BC Mods for creating another uproar
    actually i'm not looking for any apology from kkk. It's pointless because we now see too many politicans, celebrity, businessman (ex.spitzer's fantasy romp) apologizing which we know it's an act to save what reputation they have left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    Seriously man, it's not as serious as "insult". Players mumble dirty words all the time. LD was said to shout the f-word to a line judge during China Open 2007, LYB was heard verbally insulting the Japanese umpire in 06 WC, are they insulting all the audience too?
    Any proof for a real debate? your premise is all based on hear say.
    KKK's act is in technic color...which say...he isn't a very smart kid.
    Last edited by cooler; 05-19-2009 at 08:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle_peanuts View Post
    what game was this? was this against the koreans?
    nope, i think it was in the SF, against cai and fu

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    What KKK did wrong is using a language that everyone can understand -- body language ...
    yup, if he did that FACING the umpire and the umpire saw it, i'm very sure he'll get at least a yellow card, more likely a game misconduct.

    Actually, i am not concern or upset with kkk's act or want make a big fuss over it. The world still turns. It is just very educational to know how OTHERS think of it
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    Being himself or otherwise..KKK is making a fool out of himself.

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    I love how people can cause such an uproar over such a small and pointless act LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunBlade008 View Post
    I love how people can cause such an uproar over such a small and pointless act LOL
    Yeah, jeez I do things like that all the time . I mean sure it's different for professional players who need to think about their image... but all I thought when I saw the picture was "tsk tsk".

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    Yeh its a simple mistake to make which is blown way out of proportion by the media. Thats why at top level competition you have to be very very careful of what you do and say.
    Because you are at the top leve, if you blink incorrectly the media will take offence to it and say LOOK WHAT HE DID!

    This to me is no big deal. You should see the australian people when they play.....lol
    Every 2 words is ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when they make a mistake haha and its a huge shout lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wong8Egg View Post
    Which is more serious for kids who are looking after their hero figure?

    Taking a hat off

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    Pointing his/her middle finger (at the racket)
    Kids won't understand the finger unless they have been taught the meaning. Neither would they understand the hat unless they are mature enough to think.

    The finger shorthand probably originated from the west,and is understood by those in the east who are into sports or western culture. The rest of the east probably wouldn't even notice it, if it were not put up.
    The hat thing wouldn't be understood unless you understand the meaning of showing respect for the host.
    (Which was what LCW did for his Guangzhou hosts. Should he be wearing the Mao red neckchief? Maybe yes, maybe no. But his gesture made his hosts happy that he appeared as one of their own, in the photo at least. And why not? The hosts showed such graciousness to arrange such a big welcome for him so he ' actually felt like home'.When hosts go to that kind of trouble, they are paying the guest-of-honour the highest compliment.)

    Which is worse, hat or finger?
    Depends on what you want to teach the kids.
    If you don't teach the kids about the finger, they will be immune to that kind of offence. So it will not even bother them.
    If you don't teach the kids about the hat, life will still go on....until or unless they have to work with another culture or, as they say, go global.

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    Oh, by the way,I had a chat with KKK during the SSF.
    When I called him 'KKK', his first reaction was 'KKK?...' meaning he didn't know who was KKK since it's our shorthand for him and I forgot that.
    Just to give you a first hand impression of him.
    He's actually down-to-earth and easy to chat with. Has a spontaneous approach to questions (which probably made him rather popular with the Spore media during his winning days.Let's hope it will happen this SO.) Articulate with a good sense of humour.
    Comes across as one who can give his best when he has the freedom to decide or participate in his outcome ; he 's not the type who's gonna just take instructions from the coach.
    Of all the MAS players, he has the best body language on court : Always a picture of confidence regardless of play. But with KKK, it's not just a picture. Confidence is his trademark. Or when you don't like it, it's called arrogance. LCW can learn that from KKK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradmyster View Post
    Yeh its a simple mistake to make which is blown way out of proportion by the media. Thats why at top level competition you have to be very very careful of what you do and say.
    Because you are at the top leve, if you blink incorrectly the media will take offence to it and say LOOK WHAT HE DID!

    This to me is no big deal. You should see the australian people when they play.....lol
    Every 2 words is ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when they make a mistake haha and its a huge shout lol
    i think u got it wrong.
    blown way out of proportion by the media?
    i didn't find any writeup in the news. Is it on the eveing news?
    I think u r exaggerating our counterpoints to make you case because u couldn't come up with any real supporting points.

    So ur behavior is based on how other behave? Are u exaggerating again? every 2 words from AUSSIES is ****?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjswift View Post
    Kids won't understand the finger unless they have been taught the meaning. Neither would they understand the hat unless they are mature enough to think.

    I'm very certain that there are billions of mature people in this world don't know about this hat thing u r talking about. U must be much mature than alot of people huh?

    The finger shorthand probably originated from the west,and is understood by those in the east who are into sports or western culture. The rest of the east probably wouldn't even notice it, if it were not put up.
    The hat thing wouldn't be understood unless you understand the meaning of showing respect for the host.
    (Which was what LCW did for his Guangzhou hosts. Should he be wearing the Mao red neckchief? Maybe yes, maybe no. But his gesture made his hosts happy that he appeared as one of their own, in the photo at least. And why not? The hosts showed such graciousness to arrange such a big welcome for him so he ' actually felt like home'.When hosts go to that kind of trouble, they are paying the guest-of-honour the highest compliment.)

    Which is worse, hat or finger?
    Depends on what you want to teach the kids.
    If you don't teach the kids about the finger, they will be immune to that kind of offence. So it will not even bother them.
    If you don't teach the kids about the hat, life will still go on....until or unless they have to work with another culture or, as they say, go global.
    hahaha, ur joking me. Are u living in the jungle with the pygmies??? U think every child knowledge were taught by their parents? There are lots of things kids of today learned from frens, public places, media from billboard to tv to internet. I bet u almost all asian kids have exposed to western media and marketing before. Why don't u asked everyone here, where did they learned the giving the finger is obscene gesture, from their parents or from other sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjswift View Post
    Oh, by the way,I had a chat with KKK during the SSF.
    When I called him 'KKK', his first reaction was 'KKK?...' meaning he didn't know who was KKK since it's our shorthand for him and I forgot that.
    Just to give you a first hand impression of him.
    He's actually down-to-earth and easy to chat with. Has a spontaneous approach to questions (which probably made him rather popular with the Spore media during his winning days.Let's hope it will happen this SO.) Articulate with a good sense of humour.
    Comes across as one who can give his best when he has the freedom to decide or participate in his outcome ; he 's not the type who's gonna just take instructions from the coach.
    Of all the MAS players, he has the best body language on court : Always a picture of confidence regardless of play. But with KKK, it's not just a picture. Confidence is his trademark. Or when you don't like it, it's called arrogance. LCW can learn that from KKK.
    hahaha, another great analysis of your lol.

    So in a 5 mins chat, u know a guy that well huh? There are serial killers which their close neighbors, friends, family members have no idea of although they knew the subject for years if not a lifetime. I guess u have that special people analysis skills that we don't have. We are in such awe

    Picture of confidence is his trademark?? Don't say i don't like the guy since i didn't have that 1 to 1 chat like u have but as an outsider looking in, he exude overconfident. So, displaying the finger gesture is a sign of confident huh? Man, i like to see what kind of men u r dating with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    actually i think kkk/tbh does have a decent chance to beat fu/cai in the MD SC. After taking the first game, kkk weakness emerges again. In pemuda's words, he gone cocky. KKK and tbh played too casually in critical moments. Even gillian clarke took the words out of my mouth, it is 'criminal' to be so casual at the net ( KKK's foot flat on the mat, knees not bend to intercept an easy shot that went pass him. He was like standing up leisurely waiting at the food line)
    as said earlier, they go out there just to enjoy their game, unlike the chinese, they are under pressure to clinch the winning point for china.
    Quote Originally Posted by bananakid View Post
    LOL...

    Now I know why KKK "fingered" his Yonex racket... KKK must have been thinking about getting out of his Yonex sponsorship by giving his Yonex racket "the finger" in front of public television, then get the attention of Li-Ning by screaming like a b*tch every time he does an overhead shot.

    Just imagine the next Li-Ning commerical...
    "Our rackets are better than Yonex, let's us show you what a professional badminton player's opinion on Yonex racket", then shows the famous KKK middle fingered his own Yonex racket. LOL
    let's get the yonex thingy out of this
    Quote Originally Posted by samuel882 View Post
    Gosh ! When did that incident happened?
    Did the umpire eventually fell off frm his chair?
    this is funny, i'm curious to know when did this takes place too.. eagle?

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