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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy View Post
    I have used RCL Platinium Gold before (now using RCL other models), I don't feel much difference from 1 shuttle to another shuttle when I play, so to me they are still some good shuttles. Other than like what you said...cheaper cork....when you play, can you feel the difference or the difference is very minimal?

    If you don't mind anything as long as it is RCL shuttlecock, then I guess you won't be particular about the materials used and the amount you paid for. The cheaper cork is slightly lighter than the other 3 layers corks and both flight speed slow down for 2nd games. My highlight is if the supplier feel they are no different in both cork performance why don't they standardize the cork used for all 12pcs in a tube rather than mixing different corks in a tube. As far as weight is concerned, 0.1 gram is 1 speed different. This is the first time I encounter a supplier that do cost down by mixing with different corks.

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    The S/D of feather shuttlecocks is going through some fundamental changes. The two main reasons are the increasing domestic demand in China for feather shuttlecocks and a dietary change of the Chinese from goose to duck.
    This has implication for assured quality of the very top goose feather shuttlecocks. There is simply not enough top grade goose feathers to go around, so manufacturers resort to mixing or mislabelling which is becoming an increasing trend. To fill this shortage duck feathers are beginning to come into the market. Other than poorer durability, duck feathers have the same playability as goose feathers. But this disadvantage is offset by lower costs of duck feathers. Now, you know why Yonex AS-40 and AS-50 cost so much-that is a price you pay to guarantee that you don't get mix grades of shuttles in a tube.
    Another thing, it is not true that cork bases are heavier than compound bases. There are certain fundamental rules re weight and speed of shuttlecocks and at different altitude. At sea level the ideal weight is 5g to 5.1g but even Yonex AS-50 goes up to a rather heavy 5.3g which is a bit too heavy. As you go up in elevation the weight should be less. This is different from speed, which are mainly set by the base to feathers weight ratio, the diameters of the base and feathers at the widest circle, and also by weight.
    As a general rule the base, including the feather shafts that are sunk into the base and the glue on the base, should be heavier than the rest of the shuttle. This determines the base weight to feathers ratio. If the base is lighter some manufacturers insert a small weight in the form of lead or steel shots into the base, i.e. Victor Gold.
    Also, the very best shuttles spin or rotate on its axis at a fast rate. However, when a single shaft is broken or even dented the spin slows down because the 16 shafts are now not evenly loaded. This makes the shuttle wobble, sometimes mistaken to be spin which it is not.

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    My friend just got me a tube of RCL Sigma Gold for RM$54. Has anyone tried it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenggk View Post
    My friend just got me a tube of RCL Sigma Gold for RM$54. Has anyone tried it?
    Tenggk, I have tried RCL Perfect Speed 77 myself, I believe what you have tried was Speed 76.

    If you don't mind, take 2-3 RCL Perfect Spd77 from me and give it a try.

    Flight
    : More consistent compared to PT-10, RSL Tourney No.1, Sosan Black, Victor Green & Ashaway Gold
    Speed: My group felt its quite similar to PT-10 and slowness after 1 game almost unnoticeable (much better than RCL Titanium Spd76), my group accepted it almost instantaneously without any teething problem
    Durability: Better than PT-10, Ashaway Gold, RSL Tourney No.1, etc
    Price
    : Below PT-10 and slightly higher than RSL Tourney No.1

    No chance to try out RCL No.1 yet, if anyone interested, can let me know.
    Last edited by shuennms; 10-12-2009 at 12:03 PM.

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    You got your RCL shuttles from a local lady seller or Malaysia? If it's from the local lady seller, the price she offered me is the same price I paid for Sintec Special. Thus I didn't want to make any changes to the brand used at the moment.

    Given a chance, you can compare Perfect and No. 1. Apparently, No. 1 is the top rated model in the RCL shuttlecock series. It would be interesting to see the difference between these two.


    Quote Originally Posted by shuennms View Post
    Tenggk, I have tried RCL Perfect Speed 77 myself, I believe what you have tried was Speed 76.

    If you don't mind, take 2-3 RCL Perfect Spd77 from me and give it a try.

    Flight: More consistent compared to PT-10, RSL Tourney No.1, Sosan Black, Victor Green & Ashaway Gold
    Speed: My group felt its quite similar to PT-10 and slowness after 1 game almost unnoticeable (much better than RCL Titanium Spd76), my group accepted it almost instantaneously without any teething problem
    Durability: Better than PT-10, Ashaway Gold, RSL Tourney No.1, etc
    Price: Below PT-10 and slightly higher than RSL Tourney No.1

    No chance to try out RCL No.1 yet, if anyone interested, can let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenggk View Post
    You got your RCL shuttles from a local lady seller or Malaysia? If it's from the local lady seller, the price she offered me is the same price I paid for Sintec Special. Thus I didn't want to make any changes to the brand used at the moment.

    Given a chance, you can compare Perfect and No. 1. Apparently, No. 1 is the top rated model in the RCL shuttlecock series. It would be interesting to see the difference between these two.
    To me, RCL No.1 is not necessary more durable than RCL Perfect, durability almost the same. However, flightwise (the feel), it is better.

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    Thanks for the info.

    Is there a RCL website or blog that list out all RCL model? It's very confusing.....if you get what I mean...

    Quote Originally Posted by tommy View Post
    To me, RCL No.1 is not necessary more durable than RCL Perfect, durability almost the same. However, flightwise (the feel), it is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenggk View Post
    Thanks for the info.

    Is there a RCL website or blog that list out all RCL model? It's very confusing.....if you get what I mean...
    You see the website you are more confusing..

    Got 81 different model...

    http://www.rcl.com.my/index.php?cPat...sort=2a&page=9

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    Can any other brand top this record?

    Quote Originally Posted by Louislkw View Post
    You see the website you are more confusing..

    Got 81 different model...

    http://www.rcl.com.my/index.php?cPat...sort=2a&page=9

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    Took a tube of Perfect 77 from local source thru BC contact few weeks ago.
    I have tried to mix the Sintec 818 and RCL in a 2 hours game for low immediate level.

    Flight
    : Comparable Sintec 818.
    Speed: Comparable Sintec 818, don feel significant different since no -ve comments from members
    Durability: Easily last up to 1.5 game just like the 818.

    IHMO
    After the game while collecting the used shuttles for next warm game.
    I found the stem of the feathers of RCL deteriorate more than the Sintec 818. In the end, the numbers of "Ok" pieces which can be used next warm up
    session are mostly Sintec 818.

    Overall , I feel the RCL Perfect is kinda same range with Sintec 818.
    Next consideration would then be the pricing and easy stock availablity.

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    Anyone tried RCL Orange .. ? The low end one .. ?
    And anyone tired the RCL offical???
    Can give some review??

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    Thanks for the info.

    Quote Originally Posted by konafan View Post
    Took a tube of Perfect 77 from local source thru BC contact few weeks ago.
    I have tried to mix the Sintec 818 and RCL in a 2 hours game for low immediate level.

    Flight: Comparable Sintec 818.
    Speed: Comparable Sintec 818, don feel significant different since no -ve comments from members
    Durability: Easily last up to 1.5 game just like the 818.

    IHMO
    After the game while collecting the used shuttles for next warm game.
    I found the stem of the feathers of RCL deteriorate more than the Sintec 818. In the end, the numbers of "Ok" pieces which can be used next warm up
    session are mostly Sintec 818.

    Overall , I feel the RCL Perfect is kinda same range with Sintec 818.
    Next consideration would then be the pricing and easy stock availablity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konafan View Post
    Took a tube of Perfect 77 from local source thru BC contact few weeks ago.
    I have tried to mix the Sintec 818 and RCL in a 2 hours game for low immediate level.

    Flight: Comparable Sintec 818.
    Speed: Comparable Sintec 818, don feel significant different since no -ve comments from members
    Durability: Easily last up to 1.5 game just like the 818.

    IHMO
    After the game while collecting the used shuttles for next warm game.
    I found the stem of the feathers of RCL deteriorate more than the Sintec 818. In the end, the numbers of "Ok" pieces which can be used next warm up
    session are mostly Sintec 818.

    Overall , I feel the RCL Perfect is kinda same range with Sintec 818.
    Next consideration would then be the pricing and easy stock availablity.
    BTW, how much did you pay for the RCL Perfect and Sintec 818?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy View Post
    BTW, how much did you pay for the RCL Perfect and Sintec 818?
    Perfect $26
    Sintec 818 $25 to $26 (depend on quantity)

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    Quote Originally Posted by konafan View Post
    Perfect $26
    Sintec 818 $25 to $26 (depend on quantity)
    Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amin Khalili View Post
    What RSL and RCL means?
    RCL brings the meaning with an abbreviation of "Reliable, Consistent, Lasting"

    RSL stands for Reinforced Shuttlecocks Limited.

    RSL existed since 1928 in England whereas RCL is a Malaysian brand created in 1988. As far as I know, RSL is now owned by a Hong Kong company. In Malaysia itself, RCL existed before RSL came into Malaysia.

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    Today get to play with RCL Titanium shuttlecocks. It was from Ipoh and selling at RM54. The durablility of this shuttlecock is the best so far I have tested. Most feathers remain intact after 2.5-3games with plenty of smashing. Hopefully this model will be available in JB soon.

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