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Thread: Full-strength slice smash
06-24-2009, 09:11 AM #18
As with drop shots, smashes can be sliced too.
A sliced smash always loses some power due to the angled contact. However, the slicing does change the flight somewhat, so that it slows down more rapidly than normal as it approaches the defender, and would land farther in front of him than expected. There may also be a small amount of horizontal swerve.
A sliced smash gives the defender more time to react, but it also poses more of a challenge in tracking the shuttle. Consequently, it may be particularly effective if immediately preceded by two or three normal smashes: following these with a sliced smash may upset the defender's rhythm.
I mainly play this shot by mistake. I was doing this a lot in one particular game recently, to the consternation of one of my opponents, who asked me if I was spinning the shuttle somehow. It worked very effectively as a shot played under pressure (as when returning a flick serve, or when otherwise late to the shuttle).
06-25-2009, 04:35 AM #19
yes it can be done.but,bare in mind,to achieve the (slowing down of the shuttle) part,you really need the use your power and strength.if not its just a slice and the first part of the shot wont look like a smash.dont slice the shuttle too much too as the point of impact of the strings and shuttle will not be flat enough to produse the smash-part of the stroke.the harder you swing ,the more the shuttle will 'die down'.just my opinion guys.feel free to question haha
06-26-2009, 01:37 AM #20
Oh I have no idea how to pull this off. That's why I'm asking. I mean, I'm pretty good (used to train and play on a team) so I assume I'm at a level where if it were a simple shot to execute, I wouldn't have this much problem.
The "chop smash" mentioned sounds about right. That's probably the term I should have used (if I had known it). Is the direction of the slice from left to right (like a brush-stroke but harder) or from right to left (standard smash with racquet angled towards you)? I figure it should be one of these two movements but so far, no luck.
06-26-2009, 12:20 PM #21
I know what you are talking about, and I have done this before. I am not sure if its proper technique or not, but an easy way to do this is by holding the racquet with a backhand grip and just swing full power like you normally would with a straight smash. The shuttle will leave your racquet at the speed of a normal smash, then it will slow down tremendously when it reaches the net. It looks and sounds like normal smash, so if you can pull it off, it can be very deceptive.
By the way, if you are right handed, the shuttle should go crosscourt from right to left.
Hope this helps, try it out and tell us if it worked out.
Last edited by 0bito; 06-26-2009 at 12:28 PM.
06-26-2009, 11:48 PM #22
Hmm....I remember I pull this off before, but that was pure luck. My grip was in a weird position for a forehand and I was like "what the heck, I'll smash anyway". Then it came out something like the slice-smash you're talking about. However, the positioning of the shuttle is a bit far off the sideline so it's out for me.
06-27-2009, 01:04 AM #23
When I first saw that video it looked to me like what Paul Eriks describes as a "stick". A half strength smash which isn't followed through, except this one seems to have been sliced for the cross-court effect. With a full strength slice smash I would have expected a quicker and more angled result.
EDIT: After watching that video again, it seems to have had that effect because he jumped and hit the shuttle earlier, that way the angled shot had further to travel before hitting the floor and due to more velocity on the shuttle it looked like a full strength slice smash, that's as much as I can make of it.
Last edited by TedTheFarmer; 06-27-2009 at 01:07 AM.
06-27-2009, 01:32 AM #24
anyone in here want to demonstrate the shots, "DROP slice" and "SMASH slice" and post it up to see the differences? especially the people who said it's easy to do it
I really don't get what is smash slice
06-27-2009, 04:27 AM #25
Gamepurpose - I thought people don't mainly use slow drops , because they are so tight to the net , and give the opponent a bit more time that they can get their early and play a tight net shot to the net. Because the shuttle is already next to the net , they can make their tumble net back really tight!
06-29-2009, 06:07 PM #26
no they don't do slow drops, but what if the motion of your swing is powerful. And If you know the slide drop shots, the slide drop shots goes faster than normal tight net drop shots.
Explanation: normal drop shots has more distance travel, slide drop shots it goes less of an oval shape, and it goes down some what decent speed when it reach that stopping spin of the bird (not sure about is it the cost of the spinning of the bird stop thats y it all suddenly drop down.) But anyhow, the slide drop shot goes faster then normal drop shot, and it can be done with tight to the net as the normal 1.
It's not very threatful shot but because of the strong swing motion, that can be a deceptive shots sometime.
07-02-2009, 12:36 AM #27
07-02-2009, 09:20 AM #28
I clearly need more practice. I think I got it to work once... it's hard to tell.
07-02-2009, 03:38 PM #29
Check out here at 3:42, Peter Gade smashing crosscourt.
Later on, 5:56, Lin Dan doing another one.
Note, these are all slice smashes, not reverse slice smashes (which go crosscourt from around the head position)
07-02-2009, 11:24 PM #30
2 of the shots that athelete show out, it wasn't that dramatic slide. And if we've been talkin about this shot as the one that the first post ever talked about. I do not see this shots as a full strength smash motion.
The first post said it had the motion of a very powerful smash, but the bird only goes at a distance and drop down. The shots from this video is going at one speed from the point it left the contact point to the floor (maybe a little change because when it comes to the oval shape part, but that's pretty much all shots are like that, unless is a smash)
Moreover, for super slide drop you can make the bird goes straight infront of you too.
And yea really, now i still don't know what is the slide smash really are.
07-02-2009, 11:49 PM #31
I'm no expert but I do understand that once you slice your shot that's a drop shot. The main difference between a smash and a drop shot is through it's stroke. When you smash you move your racket forward. But once you slice your shot whether it is strong or light it is still a drop shot.
07-03-2009, 11:42 AM #32
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01-13-2011, 10:54 PM #34
i use a slice shot alot but i try to desquise like a clear and add alot of slice and it turns into a drop. seems to be very effective just can be hard to control distance. the across the body slice definetly carries further so i slice a bit less and use more like a control smash.
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