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Thread: Zymax strings
07-27-2012, 02:36 AM #1004
The reason is that I still have something to check and verify with Ashaway, as you can seen from the progress to date below.
1. I first queried Ashaway on why their reds are significantly poorer than the other 3 colors to the extent that I told them the reds should be reclassified as a lower grade string with lower playability but increased durability.
2. In response Ashaway expressed surprise on my findings saying there is no difference in design and process for the 4 colors. I consider this as too general to make any sense.
3. However, my initial gut feel was that although Ashaway could technically be correct in this if all the 4 colors were of the same design, core, jacket, and pigment systems. In other words if the current production of the 4 colors are of the new generation (maybe with the new marking Ashaway USA on the string), then Ashaway would be correct. But that also means all their new design strings will now be significantly poorer compared with the old design. This should get a more specific answer. If this is true, I will say goodbye to Ashaway Zymax strings.
4. Because of 3 above, I again questioned Ashaway if they have ever changed the design, core, jacket and pigment systems of the Zymax strings at any time. I am still waiting for their reply.
07-27-2012, 03:02 AM #1005
is the ZM70 also affected?
07-27-2012, 06:24 AM #1006
All my red ones say Ashaway USA Zymax 65 on them and as far as I know 65 only came in 2nd gen. Hopefully it's not a counterfeit string thou, the 65 plays great. I'm pretty sure you can buy direct from Ashaway, at least I was able to.
07-27-2012, 08:33 AM #1007
I have a racket with red z65 I need to test, but to compare I will need to cut the nbg99 on my other racket.
07-27-2012, 08:44 AM #1008
I'll string up two racquets over the weekend with Z65 (white and red, both TI-10's) and I'll see if it feels/sounds any different on Monday.
07-27-2012, 11:11 AM #1009
Ask them again if they have ever changed the design, core, jacket, and pigment system. Also ask them to explain if there is any difference between the older string markings "Ashaway USA Zymax 67" and the new string's "Ashaway USA", and see if you get a response.
07-27-2012, 11:28 AM #1010
I may not have played with red zymax strings recently but I do remember the core filaments of the string was white, with only the coating being red. If I am correct, the durability and tension holding capabilities are determined by the string core, the outer coating determines the feel.
So sir, unless there are some hard evidence presented I would not agree with your statement saying Red Zymax play "like" BG65. BG65 is soft and lose tension easily. I can't believe such characteristics would be reflected on Zymax strings.
As a stringer I have observed that Zymax strings (I had experience with white color so far) stretch much less than nylon strings during pulling. Too bad I do not have any red Zymax at hand.
For your last statement, maybe more fellow stringers (Mark A, kwun, yan.v) could help to verify it?
Last edited by zombie0517; 07-27-2012 at 11:30 AM.
07-27-2012, 11:41 AM #1011
07-27-2012, 10:23 PM #1012
For N. American players used to both plastic and feather shuttlecocks the new Zymax strings may be more acceptable.
07-27-2012, 10:28 PM #1013
07-27-2012, 11:20 PM #1014
07-28-2012, 03:19 AM #1015
Ashaway did say the ZM62/67 were upgraded at the time when the new ZM65 was introduced in 2011. The "upgrade" specifically referred to the new design's greater strength (which I take to mean greater durability) to allow a wider range of playing styles.
Ashaway also says that the original ZM strings, only in platinum, using the original materials and original pigmenting system will be available from the Asian distributor based in Singapore on a continuing basis.
Almost all the players here like the platinum for its very high playability, immeasurably better than the other colors. However, the ZM62 platinum can be a curse for players who mishit because it is guaranteed to snap instantly. For players who hit the sweet spot all the time then ZM62 platinum can be quite durable.
A better compromise will be the ZM67 platinum for greater strength (note higher durability) but it is not in the same class in playability as the platinum ZM62.
07-28-2012, 05:19 AM #1016
07-28-2012, 08:01 AM #1017
The original platinum is the best and beats the original yellow or white. It is even better than the new reds.
But if you are not in Asia perhaps you may the 2nd gen. just as good plus better durability. But, that is not for me.
07-28-2012, 08:11 AM #1018
07-28-2012, 08:33 AM #1019
What is actually the biggest difference of the zymax 65 and 67 except the thickness??
Because I want to order some reel of mbs - I already played the 67 and was very satisfied but I think the 65 will give much more repulsion or am I wrong?
07-28-2012, 09:30 AM #1020
get 1 pack and make experiment with it. if you satisfied then order a reel
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