Yonex ArcSaber Z Slash Review

**yurimaster2010** · 09-14-2010, 10:09 AM

1)are there any other racket which having the same frame shape as z slash?
2)what string is the best recon to further enchance the smashing quality?

**roy b** · 09-14-2010, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by tckang

Nothing should be done onto it. This is what makes Arc Z as it is, just like any other rackets. Every rackets is unique, so if you think it is not a better control racket, move on, there are so many good rackets out there.

Get the racket because which pro use them/ endorse them / or don't buy because no pro use them ? Now that is REAL bad decision for someone who succumb to Racket Marketing strategy. (i.e You are still nobody and not Lin Dan or Play like Lin Dan simply by getting his N90)
Buy the racket because who and who create the fastest smash out of it? Now that is plain no brainer as well.
Get the racket because it suits your game and style, no matter what level you are, now that is smart and what it should be.
So, if Arc Z is not your cup of tea, move on. It is not your fault, and certainly not Yonex. It just does not suit you, thats all.

(Btw i am open for buying your Arc Z

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tckang,

We have our differences of opinion, BUT, my friend, here I couldn't agree with you more

. An excellent post.

**tckang** · 09-16-2010, 11:19 PM

Cheers. and to Peace .....

**Amin Khalili** · 10-16-2010, 11:43 PM

Hey, I just tried Apacs Z Spark, the feeling is so damn bad, and its hard to hit the sweetspot
The feeling of Yonex Z Slash and Apacs Z Spark had really a big different right?
Im gonna try Z Slash by myself soon, if im sastified with it, I'll get mine

**Kiloo** · 10-17-2010, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Amin Khalili

Hey, I just tried Apacs Z Spark, the feeling is so damn bad, and its hard to hit the sweetspot
The feeling of Yonex Z Slash and Apacs Z Spark had really a big different right?
I'm gonna try Z Slash by myself soon, if i'm satisfied with it, I'll get mine

The one has got strictly NOTHING to do with the other; (save a bit of the color and a close name).

**tckang** · 10-17-2010, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Amin Khalili

Hey, I just tried Apacs Z Spark, the feeling is so damn bad, and its hard to hit the sweetspot
The feeling of Yonex Z Slash and Apacs Z Spark had really a big different right?
Im gonna try Z Slash by myself soon, if im sastified with it, I'll get mine

Hey bro, it is a different racket altogether-lah. feel free to try my Arc Z the next time we play on court.

**taneepak** · 10-18-2010, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by tckang

Hey bro, it is a different racket altogether-lah. feel free to try my Arc Z the next time we play on court.

The Yonex Z Slash with BG66 Maxima is a reasonably good racket and I don't have any problem about missing the sweetspot. To avoid mistiming and consequently missing the sweetspot, make sure you are in a balanced position and always relax the back swing before exploding with the forward swing. This way you will be spot on 100% of the time.
However, it lacks the punch and solidity of the Li Ning N55.

**HKChua** · 10-18-2010, 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by taneepak

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However, it lacks the punch and solidity of the Li Ning N55.

Please elaborate... I am interested. I am using Arc Saber ZS all these while....

Thanks.

**taneepak** · 10-18-2010, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by HKChua

Please elaborate... I am interested. I am using Arc Saber ZS all these while....

Thanks.

The Yonex Z Slash is a pretty fast racket with minimal air resistance from its smaller frame and narrower dimensions. It is easy to play almost any shot with crispness. However, perhaps its smaller and narrower dimensions come at the price of frame stability that the Li Ning N55 excels in, although the N55 is slower than the Z Slash to move around in the air.
It all boils down to the player. I think the Z Slash is perhaps the easiest racket to play well with and I am rather surprised to find that some have found it difficult to hit the sweet spot consistently. The N55 is a more powerful weapon but not everyone can play well with it because it is very stiff and solid.
For example my wife likes the Z Slash and finds the N55 hard to manage. I prefer the N55.

**tckang** · 10-18-2010, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by taneepak

The Yonex Z Slash is a pretty fast racket with minimal air resistance from its smaller frame and narrower dimensions. It is easy to play almost any shot with crispness. However, perhaps its smaller and narrower dimensions come at the price of frame stability that the Li Ning N55 excels in, although the N55 is slower than the Z Slash to move around in the air.
It all boils down to the player. I think the Z Slash is perhaps the easiest racket to play well with and I am rather surprised to find that some have found it difficult to hit the sweet spot consistently. The N55 is a more powerful weapon but not everyone can play well with it because it is very stiff and solid.
For example my wife likes the Z Slash and finds the N55 hard to manage. I prefer the N55.

Could not agree more to this. Well said.

**twobeer** · 10-19-2010, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by taneepak

The Yonex Z Slash is a pretty fast racket with minimal air resistance from its smaller frame and narrower dimensions. It is easy to play almost any shot with crispness. However, perhaps its smaller and narrower dimensions come at the price of frame stability that the Li Ning N55 excels in, although the N55 is slower than the Z Slash to move around in the air.
It all boils down to the player. I think the Z Slash is perhaps the easiest racket to play well with and I am rather surprised to find that some have found it difficult to hit the sweet spot consistently. The N55 is a more powerful weapon but not everyone can play well with it because it is very stiff and solid.
For example my wife likes the Z Slash and finds the N55 hard to manage. I prefer the N55.

I agree as well :-) .

But I think when people say it is unforgiving, I do not think most of them (at least if they are good players) refer to controlled shots, like std. clears, slices, smashes, net-play etc.. But rather when you dive for a smash, or in an ultra fast flat exchange etc. were even strong players "need" a bigger sweetspot. My biggest problem with it is the combination of narrow frame (= small sweetspot) and the shlong shaft that isnot stiff enough, so control suffers, especially in defence (against powerful smashers) but also for smashes where the flexy feel makes it loose control imop.

I love the N55 though, great racket :-)

**RSLvictorSOTX** · 10-19-2010, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by twobeer

I agree as well :-) .

But I think when people say it is unforgiving, I do not think most of them (at least if they are good players) refer to controlled shots, like std. clears, slices, smashes, net-play etc.. But rather when you dive for a smash, or in an ultra fast flat exchange etc. were even strong players "need" a bigger sweetspot. My biggest problem with it is the combination of narrow frame (= small sweetspot) and the shlong shaft that isnot stiff enough, so control suffers, especially in defence (against powerful smashers) but also for smashes where the flexy feel makes it loose control imop.

I love the N55 though, great racket :-)

You are referring to one (Arc ZS) racket to refer the flexier flex than ultra stiff rackets? Or you've drawn 16-20 ArcZSes from your bag and they're all flexy?

Frankly, ArcZS just isn't your cup of tea! You are good at handling TC700 and N55 though. That's it. Absolutely nothing to do with smaller than small sweetspot

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**weeyeh** · 10-19-2010, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by RSLvictorSOTX

Frankly, ArcZS just isn't your cup of tea! You are good at handling TC700 and N55 though. That's it. Absolutely nothing to do with smaller than small sweetspot

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You are absolutely correct on both counts. I'm another TC700 user who gave up his ArcZ. It's nothing to do with the smaller sweet but the combination with a somewhat flexible shaft. That combo cost me a lot of errors when rushed (e.g. flicking a smash). I have no problems with any controlled shots.

Like twobeers, I'm okay (not good) at handling the TC700 and the ArcZ is simply not my cup of tea. I recognise that there are people who loves the ArcZ. Afterall, not many of us can play better under pressure than Tago or a few other ArcZ users.

**RSLvictorSOTX** · 10-19-2010, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by weeyeh

You are absolutely correct on both counts. I'm another TC700 user who gave up his ArcZ. It's nothing to do with the smaller sweet but the combination with a somewhat flexible shaft. That combo cost me a lot of errors when rushed (e.g. flicking a smash). I have no problems with any controlled shots.

Like twobeers, I'm okay (not good) at handling the TC700 and the ArcZ is simply not my cup of tea. I recognise that there are people who loves the ArcZ. Afterall, not many of us can play better under pressure than Tago or a few other ArcZ users.

Yep, you nailed it!

But I have no qualms with TC700 too...just preference over the other. Although LD_rules and I are SW 35 fanatics, at least for now

! Cheers!

**tckang** · 10-20-2010, 02:06 AM

Hahhahaa Relax ....
Whether it is TC700, Arc Z, or any other model, as long as everyone is happy with what they found to enjoy the 2-3 hours of social play each time, then it is a happy ending

After all, there is no prize money or Badminton Federation's world ranking points awaiting us .....

The most important for us is to get the right tool that suits your play so that we can enjoy the fun of the game

Whether it is Yonex, Mizuno or Li Ning, i believe none of them will "rush" out a model without much R&D or thoughts into their products, unlike our recent "Proton Lancer" boleh story in my boleh-land .....
In reality, with so many models and products of each brands, some are bound to be selling better than some models, just like cars, perfume, etc. That doesn't mean the less seller are inferior in quality or lack in R&D.

**twobeer** · 10-20-2010, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by RSLvictorSOTX

You are referring to one (Arc ZS) racket to refer the flexier flex than ultra stiff rackets? Or you've drawn 16-20 ArcZSes from your bag and they're all flexy?

Frankly, ArcZS just isn't your cup of tea! You are good at handling TC700 and N55 though. That's it. Absolutely nothing to do with smaller than small sweetspot

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well, I have tried quite a few Arc-Z and I assume that some sort of consistency in the manufacturing are expected from Yonex, Do you think there are much variations in the flex between different Z:s ??? I do not.

My views on the Arc-Z is not only from my personal experience but also from a lot of pros trying/using it and looking at the games when players have been switching to the racket. It is visible that most players perform worse with the racket, but as you point out Taufik will beat players like Rumbaka anyway.. But then he plays Gade for example. The control-rigidity-sweetspot of the racket may be the difference costing him the win.

I dont think the long flex shaft and narrow fram is "da ****".. I think even Yonex realizes this.. They kind of abandonded the whole thing with the newer voltric series...

There are huge number of rackets apart from my favourites TC700 and N55 i like more than ARc-Z .. I can name (ARC-10, NS9900, SW35, BS10, NS50, NS50-II, NS70, AT900P etc etc.. )

/Twobeer

**twobeer** · 10-20-2010, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by tckang

Hahhahaa Relax ....
Whether it is TC700, Arc Z, or any other model, as long as everyone is happy with what they found to enjoy the 2-3 hours of social play each time, then it is a happy ending

After all, there is no prize money or Badminton Federation's world ranking points awaiting us .....

The most important for us is to get the right tool that suits your play so that we can enjoy the fun of the game

Whether it is Yonex, Mizuno or Li Ning, i believe none of them will "rush" out a model without much R&D or thoughts into their products, unlike our recent "Proton Lancer" boleh story in my boleh-land .....
In reality, with so many models and products of each brands, some are bound to be selling better than some models, just like cars, perfume, etc. That doesn't mean the less seller are inferior in quality or lack in R&D.

I think it is a different approach in R&D. Yonex seem to do in-lab R&D and do not involve the pros until very close to release, when the racket specs are pretty much fixed. Li-Ning seem to take the R&D path of jointly develop and "tweak" based on national players input. Victor seem to sit somewere in between and innovate and create large amount of models, tryinge different tech, for their pros to try out.

/Twobeer