03-28-2010, 11:13 AM #120
03-28-2010, 12:27 PM #121
Hayom started winning domestic and international tournaments in 2009... Not before that... In 2007 Hayom lost a rubber set match to Chen Yu of China at the Russian Open, he was a real competition, right? So the fact that he regularly lost matches all the way to the end of 2008 means that at least the competition is hard enough not to allow him to win...
Last edited by Krisna; 03-28-2010 at 12:31 PM.
03-29-2010, 10:28 AM #122
I was just wondering why he was playing so relaxed... Even TH 10 years ago were more aggressive than him, not to say SDK. Hayom played like Simon in 2005 -- but we all know what Simon has achieved.
My guess is that, he didn't have much competition from kids around him when he was like 13 - 16 years old. That's the time when you form your attitude on court. LD/LCW was nobody at that age -- not the tallest, not the one with best skill, not coaches' favorite, etc. -- that's why they grow up to be fighters. On the other hand we have TH -- but TH is so naturally talented that he doesn't need to fight even when playing at top level.
03-29-2010, 11:16 AM #123
When 13-15 or 14-15 y.o, Hayom joined to PB. Pikiran Rakyat, Tasikmalaya (quiet far from his hometown Yogyakarya for junior high school kid). We didn't hear his performance in this age.
In 15 y.o he back to Yogyakarta and just compete in small event in Yogyakarta.
He joined to PB. Djarum in 2005 (more 16 y.o age), quite late for intensive training.
Until middle 2008 he still behind compare his clubmate like Bandar Sigit Pamungkas, or Nugroho Andi Saputro.
Last edited by Sandy; 03-29-2010 at 11:26 AM.
03-29-2010, 11:18 AM #124
until 13 yo, he joined every competitions. many competitions were held both in Kulon Progo, Sleman, Bantul and Yogyakarta. He joined all.
and you know, he joined all divisions. when he was 12 yo, beside Pemula division, he also joined Remaja and Taruna division as well. in Kejurda kulon Progo, He also even joined Dewasa division
can you believe it ??
in one tournament, he can play 4-6 games every day.
and he almost won all. except Taruna and Dewasa may be.
even, he can still reached semifinal or final in Taruna when he was still 11-13.
At 15 yo, No one can beat him in Yogyakarta province
He won all division, until Dewasa I thought (I forgot about this )
As i remembered, he also went into final in a such national competition level held in Yogyakarta. maybe at 14/15 yo Someone from Semen Gresik (anyone can confirm ) beat him in Final. He was the one and probably the only player from unknown club like Pancing Sembada Sleman that could enter as far as semifinal.
I dont know, but maybe anyone can confirm about this coz i dont clearly remember.
Last edited by fathonezic; 03-29-2010 at 11:20 AM.
03-29-2010, 11:27 AM #125
03-29-2010, 01:34 PM #126
03-29-2010, 01:57 PM #127
03-30-2010, 01:07 AM #128
Next tournament for Hayom is BAC next month. With his current WR, possibly he'll place 9/16 seeding position.
03-30-2010, 02:53 AM #129
Means, he should have jump to higher level competition at that time since he almost won all the time with the competition level that he participated
03-30-2010, 11:53 AM #130
Oh well, hahaha... I don't think what ye333 wrote is correct at all. For Hayom's case ye333's analysis is just flawed in many different levels, that I don't have time to explain how wrong it is. But anyway, it's all in the past now...
03-30-2010, 12:03 PM #131
He has the makings of a great player, if he is focused mentally and works further on his physical game.
03-30-2010, 05:51 PM #132
He was trying to suggest a reason why Rumbaka may play like this (and in his defence others did partially agree!).
Why people play like this is also due to behavioural traits, coaching style or any other factor we could mention.
With better knowledge of Rumbaka could you enlighten us more as to what shapes his playing style?
Personally I would say he is a pretty typical INA player (no suprises as he is INA).
03-31-2010, 10:33 AM #133
I was trying to understand Hayom's style... So it would be great if you can shed some light on this...
Actually, IMHO there is a "change of style" around 00-01 in Indonesian MS. Before that, most of them are fighters, Joko, Alan, Ardi, and of course Hendrawan, who was always fighting from the very first minute to the very last one. Around 00-01 it's kind of a mixture. SDK was somewhat a fighter, but TH was not (but as I said, TH could comfortably stay in Indo's top 3 -- more precisely world top 5 -- without taking a single half chance). Then Simon and Hayom. Both IMHO too relaxed. Now, accompanying this "change of style" is the decline of Indonesian MS. My suspicion is that the latter is the reason of the former -- As competition is minimal, the more technical players can toy most opponents around and form the habit of not taking half chances.
Finally, I should mention that although TH plays very relaxed, I can feel that he in fact sees every chance, he is just too lazy to take them.
Last edited by ye333; 03-31-2010 at 10:36 AM.
04-02-2010, 01:01 AM #134
Oh, I agree that in INA, in general the temperament/mood of the population is 'relaxed'. We're a tropical volcanic archipelago. For centuries, we have fertile land, plenty of water [thus, ample food supply], rich natural resources, no winter, no drought, no hurry, ....just chill...
Last edited by Krisna; 04-02-2010 at 01:06 AM.
04-18-2010, 08:12 AM #135
oohh... hayom did very bad result in BAC 2010
04-18-2010, 02:35 PM #136
hayom need some more yeasts, to rise under the heat
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