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  • Canon 7D

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  • Nikon D700

    16 19.28%
  • Micro 4/3rds camera

    2 2.41%
  • None of the above but it will be Nikon

    14 16.87%
  • None of the above but it will be Canon

    25 30.12%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mini Me View Post
    nikkor 28mm/1.4 isn't a boring lens! i'm using it as my "shooting in available darkness" lens being able to shoot handheld indoors/night time f/1.4 @ 1/30s rocks! though the price of the lens wasn't so attractive
    the 28/1.4 is like $3000 *used*?

    my Canon 35/1.4 only cost me $900 used. yes, agree that it is a great focal range. i used it 75% of the time.

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    i managed to get my 28/1.4 for a$2300 used there was no way i was going to pay $3000+!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mini Me View Post
    come back to the dark side!

    what!!!??? which one is dark side??

    shall be like this!!

    kwun,
    come back to the true side. the dark side has you for few years and it is time for you to leave the DARK SIDE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    - what lens(es) are you going to use to take baddy photos, since your primary lenses are no more?? are you going with a third party brand (sigma, tamron)?? or are you just going to rent lens(es) for baddy pics??..
    - you can come down south and cover the U.S. Open. That way you'll use 'em thrice, instead of twice, a yr...
    - i feel bad for your beloved 1DMkIII. Just sitting there all alone; i think it needs a very fine companion......how abt the 200/1.8?!?!..hah
    Hmm, I hope it's not the next one to go?!?!..
    i will figure that out when time comes. i have no scheduled tournament to take until at least end of 2010 (even that is not sure at this point). i will for sure miss HK/China Open this year.

    so there is no hurry at this point.

    my mk3 still have other lens. it is no where near deprived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ae86trueno View Post
    I see, I actually was thinking to get 135L2.0 (price tag about 1.9k here) as well but everytime I think about it, and its just for hobby (my case) I don't think it will do justice.
    it is a great lens if you need that focal length. perfect lens for indoor sports or for portrait. i used it a little for macro with tube as well.

    however, these days i am so busy i hardly have time to shoot any of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    - kwun mentioned he is not immune to any photog gears. But his lack of immunity doesn't apply to a $1800 lens. Meaning: it's a no go.
    - What are his requirements? If he tells us his requirements, then i doubt any one of us would be able to sponsor his wishes; not the least himself..is that correct, master kwun??..
    - That price tag was for a lens, not a camera body.
    i have no idea what requirement there are. i seem to be sufficient with what i have. i guess i am satisfied and right now see no reason to splurge on a new lens.

    one thing about lenses is that they really do preserve value. i sold all 3 lenses with minimal loss. maybe around $5-10 loss each. and even more incredible since two of them i bought new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    i will figure that out when time comes. i have no scheduled tournament to take until at least end of 2010 (even that is not sure at this point). i will for sure miss HK/China Open this year.

    so there is no hurry at this point.

    my mk3 still have other lens. it is no where near deprived.
    I'm sure you can borrow a lens or two from other BCers

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    i have no idea what requirement there are. i seem to be sufficient with what i have. i guess i am satisfied and right now see no reason to splurge on a new lens.

    one thing about lenses is that they really do preserve value. i sold all 3 lenses with minimal loss. maybe around $5-10 loss each. and even more incredible since two of them i bought new.
    - if there is no plan to get a new/used lens, then i'm guessing most likely you'll be stashing the money away for a while. until.......the new 1D MkIV comes out??..

    - not all lenses preserve their value, no?? i guess only the higher IQ lenses (like the ones you just sold) will preserve most of their value. lower IQ lenses will likely lose more of their value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    it is a great lens if you need that focal length. perfect lens for indoor sports or for portrait. i used it a little for macro with tube as well.
    however, these days i am so busy i hardly have time to shoot any of the above.
    I guess im in same boat with you Kwun. Im sure its a great lens but since I'm just doing photog more for serious hobby rather than pros I think I'm better to stay with 70-200 2.8 IS, I lost some IQ and don't have the 2.0 but gain versatility with the zoom. my current setup is 24-70 and 70-200, and if I need more opening I have 50 1.8 (might getting 85 1.8 but its on the bottom list) also I have 18-55 mk.2 (non-IS) and 55-200 (which I put 3 ext tube to make this into macro lens)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ae86trueno View Post
    I guess im in same boat with you Kwun. Im sure its a great lens but since I'm just doing photog more for serious hobby rather than pros I think I'm better to stay with 70-200 2.8 IS, I lost some IQ and don't have the 2.0 but gain versatility with the zoom. my current setup is 24-70 and 70-200, and if I need more opening I have 50 1.8 (might getting 85 1.8 but its on the bottom list) also I have 18-55 mk.2 (non-IS) and 55-200 (which I put 3 ext tube to make this into macro lens)
    I'd put the 85/1.8 at the top of your list for indoor badminton and portrait shots on a 30D I can assure you it will be much better than the 50/1.8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    I'd put the 85/1.8 at the top of your list for indoor badminton and portrait shots on a 30D I can assure you it will be much better than the 50/1.8.
    Yes, so would l. Particularly if you have a budget.For the money, nothing really beats it for speedy, low light shots. The one that might come close is the 100mm f/2. The 135mm f/2 would be excellent but the budget stretch is quite a long way off. Also, its not so good if you're space constrained like a small gym court or shooting with no more than 15m to move around from the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    I'd put the 85/1.8 at the top of your list for indoor badminton and portrait shots on a 30D I can assure you it will be much better than the 50/1.8.
    excellent advice from Cheung. i used to have 4 primes, 135/2, 85/1.8, 50/1.4, 35/1.4. i sold the 135 and 50. i find myself using the 35 and 85 a lot more. the IQ and AF speed of the 85 is one level above the 50. on par with the 135L, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    I'm sure you can borrow a lens or two from other BCers
    haha. that's a real possibility.. *cough* *cough*

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    - if there is no plan to get a new/used lens, then i'm guessing most likely you'll be stashing the money away for a while. until.......the new 1D MkIV comes out??..

    - not all lenses preserve their value, no?? i guess only the higher IQ lenses (like the ones you just sold) will preserve most of their value. lower IQ lenses will likely lose more of their value.
    it depends. true, lower end lens preserve less. also, as long as there is no "mk2" replacement. my 50/1.4 is not really consider high end, but the retail price really shot up since i bought it so does the used price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    excellent advice from Cheung. i used to have 4 primes, 135/2, 85/1.8, 50/1.4, 35/1.4. i sold the 135 and 50. i find myself using the 35 and 85 a lot more. the IQ and AF speed of the 85 is one level above the 50. on par with the 135L, actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    I'd put the 85/1.8 at the top of your list for indoor badminton and portrait shots on a 30D I can assure you it will be much better than the 50/1.8.
    ouch.. more poison on me
    I was actually aiming for the 85 initially but Kwun's 135 photo tempted me. But well when money say no, I can't do much..
    85 at the moment is more feasible and fit my budget at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    excellent advice from Cheung. i used to have 4 primes, 135/2, 85/1.8, 50/1.4, 35/1.4. i sold the 135 and 50. i find myself using the 35 and 85 a lot more. the IQ and AF speed of the 85 is one level above the 50. on par with the 135L, actually.
    Indeed. The 85/1.8 was the reason I almost went Canon -- there was no equivalent in the other systems. Excellent close portrait lens at a reasonable price. Most portrait photographers will want both the 85 and a 135 -- the 135 is easier when warming up the subject. I went with Minolta due to the placement of the dials but will never go Sony for the same reason (how silly).

    I notice that photographers tend to be split between 28+50+100 or 24+35+70-90 when they go prime. I also belong to the latter too with the 35 being my most used FL. It's great for street and group work. Hardly touch my 50 and 45mm.

    Given that you are reducing the lens collection, the tendency then is either in preparation to switch system or to replace the current body. Is the 1DSmk2 getting too heavy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ae86trueno View Post
    ouch.. more poison on me
    I was actually aiming for the 85 initially but Kwun's 135 photo tempted me. But well when money say no, I can't do much..
    85 at the moment is more feasible and fit my budget at the moment.
    Some antidote for you. You already have a 70-200/2.8 IS. That'll cover most grounds for badminton photography. The thinner DoF of 85/1.8 or 135/2 will not really help you there and the 70-200 provides much better reach/flexibility.

    Unless you are troubled by the weight or you want nicer bokeh of either the 85 or 135.

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