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  • Canon 7D

    26 31.33%
  • Nikon D700

    16 19.28%
  • Micro 4/3rds camera

    2 2.41%
  • None of the above but it will be Nikon

    14 16.87%
  • None of the above but it will be Canon

    25 30.12%
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeyeh View Post
    Some antidote for you. You already have a 70-200/2.8 IS. That'll cover most grounds for badminton photography. The thinner DoF of 85/1.8 or 135/2 will not really help you there and the 70-200 provides much better reach/flexibility.

    Unless you are troubled by the weight or you want nicer bokeh of either the 85 or 135.
    Yep, exactly. my 70-200 2.8 really cover that part and more flexibility.. when comparing 85's IQ with 70-200 IQ, I think only at pixel peeper level then I can see difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ae86trueno View Post
    Yep, exactly. my 70-200 2.8 really cover that part and more flexibility.. when comparing 85's IQ with 70-200 IQ, I think only at pixel peeper level then I can see difference.
    What about when the lighting conditions are so poor that you are forced to use ISO3200 with f2.2 and 1/320thsec?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    What about when the lighting conditions are so poor that you are forced to use ISO3200 with f2.2 and 1/320thsec?
    Why do I sense deep poison at work here .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    What about when the lighting conditions are so poor that you are forced to use ISO3200 with f2.2 and 1/320thsec?
    But for really crisp shots... you need at least 1/600!!!

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    Default For this one..

    Quote Originally Posted by weeyeh View Post
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    Given that you are reducing the lens collection, the tendency then is either in preparation to switch system or to replace the current body. Is the 1DSmk2 getting too heavy?
    - kwun did mention (in another post, in another thread) that he'd be very berry interested in changing his current DSLR camera if there is a lighter body but still has the same set-up as his current DSLR. A crossover between a 5DMkII and 7D.
    - his current and only DSLR is the 1D MkIII.

    It'll be interesting to see if kwun will do another upgrade when the 1D MkIV comes out; maybe he's saving for it...let's see, it should be next yr, as Canon upgrades its 1D line every 3 yrs (1DMkII in 2004, 1DMkIII in 2007, 1DMkIV in 2010??)..
    Last edited by ctjcad; 09-18-2009 at 02:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    - kwun did mention (in another post, in another thread) that he'd be very berry interested in changing his current DSLR camera if there is a lighter body but still has the same set-up as his current DSLR. A crossover between a 5DMkII and 7D.
    - his current and only DSLR is the 1D MkIII.
    yes. but i also mentioned that money don't grow on trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    hopefully

    with u4/3. they not only halved the flange distance, they also halved the sensor size. in order to achieve the same viewing angle, they need to use lenses 1/2 the focal length.

    a 35mm lens in say canon mount is a retro focus design.

    a 17.5mm lens in u4/3 (with 20mm flange distance) is also retro focus design.

    there is no benefit there.
    Quote Originally Posted by weeyeh View Post
    Check out the Lumix 7-14/4 (m4/3) vs. Olympus's own 7-14/4(4/3).
    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    that's not quite the comparison i am talking about though.
    here is a better comparison:

    Canon 18-55/3.5-5.6 IS
    size: 68.5x70mm
    weight: 200g
    $175

    Lumix G Vario 14-45mm f/3.5-5.6 ASPH OIS
    size: 60x60mm
    weight: 195g
    cost: unknown.

    practically the same angle of view, same aperture, but not significantly smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    yes. but i also mentioned that money don't grow on trees.
    ..maybe you could trade in or sell your 1DMk3 to get your new camera (whatever that would be)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    yes. but i also mentioned that money don't grow on trees.
    It grows in a place called 'Kwun's Bank Account' ...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladius View Post
    It grows in a place called 'Kwun's Bank Account' ...!
    at the pathetic snail pace of around 1% APY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    - kwun did mention (in another post, in another thread) that he'd be very berry interested in changing his current DSLR camera if there is a lighter body but still has the same set-up as his current DSLR. A crossover between a 5DMkII and 7D.
    - his current and only DSLR is the 1D MkIII.
    Oops, my bad.. I just got into this so beg your pardon. Thanks for highlighting.

    It'll be interesting to see if kwun will do another upgrade when the 1D MkIV comes out; maybe he's saving for it...let's see, it should be next yr, as Canon upgrades its 1D line every 3 yrs (1DMkII in 2004, 1DMkIII in 2007, 1DMkIV in 2010??)..
    That's no fun anymore since it'll be Canon 1D again...

    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    yes. but i also mentioned that money don't grow on trees.
    No, no, but speculation is free

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    here is a better comparison:

    Canon 18-55/3.5-5.6 IS
    size: 68.5x70mm
    weight: 200g
    $175

    Lumix G Vario 14-45mm f/3.5-5.6 ASPH OIS
    size: 60x60mm
    weight: 195g
    cost: unknown.

    practically the same angle of view, same aperture, but not significantly smaller.
    It seems like we are talking differernt things.

    This is not a good comparison for mirrored vs mirrorless for 2 reasons:
    1. The lens stretches longer than the wide-range. The effects of housing a mirror does not impact designs of longer lenses;
    2. While the simpler designs is possible, the manufacturer may choose not to do it.

    If, however, the comparison is to disprove Olympus's claim about weight savings with 4/3 vs APS-C, I'm totally with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    What about when the lighting conditions are so poor that you are forced to use ISO3200 with f2.2 and 1/320thsec?
    yikes.. well i guess I only can watch and see.. unfortunately my tree the same as Kwun.. no money grow on it or might try force my camera to take under and edit it.. though it will be heaps of noise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladius View Post
    But for really crisp shots... you need at least 1/600!!!
    This guy adds even more poison. How to get 1/600th indoors? Can only use f2.0 with a camera that can do ISO6400

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    This guy adds even more poison. How to get 1/600th indoors? Can only use f2.0 with a camera that can do ISO6400
    Ehh... that's not true.

    At the Singapore Open, I was always shooting between 1/600 - 1/1000 using just a 70-200 f/2.8 and ISO between 1600-3200. Nothing outside of that range at all.

    ps: I've got the pictures to prove it!

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    how many gyms have television lighting? last weekend i was shooting in the gym at f/1.6 1/400s iso6400. not much chance of getting to 1/600s or faster there. anyone want to sponsor me a f/1.0 lens?

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    Default ^^To experience the f/1.0 lens..^^

    ..you've gotta do what kwun did: jumped ship to the true side..
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru....php?p=1175557 (post #42)
    Last edited by ctjcad; 09-22-2009 at 12:54 AM.

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