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    Default Sports Affairs/Econsave 1 August Sunday morning 10am-12pm

    Date/Time : 1 August Sunday 10am-12pm

    Venue : Sports Affairs/Econsave
    Address : Lot 44621, Jalan Segar Perdana 1, Taman Segar Perdana, Batu 9, Cheras, 43200 Selangor.

    Court No : Court 9 & 10 & 11 & 12 (max 30 players)
    Charge/Person : RM12 (10am-12pm) RM15 (10am-1pm) RM10 (Ladies)

    Level : Backhand cannot reach baseline

    01. Lim
    02. Victor
    03. Amran
    04. frosty
    05. Stan Rees
    06. Faaiz
    07. Siang
    08. Jordan
    09. zspeed
    10. pcw84
    11. sewling
    12. yeohray
    13. Tucker
    14. CLWY
    15. helen88
    16. helen88
    17. Eric
    18. ST
    19. adrian
    20. Edward
    21. Edward's friend 1
    22. Edward's friend 2
    23. Edward's friend 3
    24. Edward's friend 4
    25. Wan
    26. Wilkin
    27. Isaac's friend 1
    28. Isaac's friend 2

    CLOSED - Thank you everyone for their interest.


    It's advisable to come around 10am because Sports Affairs only opens around 9.45am.

    Kindly remove your name from the list if you are unable to come on Sunday morning so that other players could take your place. Thank you very much for your co-operation.

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    I think this one of the craziest thread around :P
    Even mod changed your title Challenger to SA!
    Lim i forgot to pay you today pls remind next week, paiseh.

    Overall SA is ok.
    Shiny abit the court.
    Toilet very nice but shower very very cold, almost thermal shock :O
    Security guard LCLY one.
    Motor parking no shade
    Music nice but not loud enough.
    Much better than Challenger or New Vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smjc_lim View Post
    Received some sms/emails regarding the monthly charge for regular/permanent players.

    Will try this flexible plan to see whether it works ...

    For those interested in becoming regulars, the August monthly charge (for 5 weeks) is RM50 (10am-12pm) and RM60 (10am-1pm). Players who pay monthly can skip 1 or 2 sessions in August with the balance carried forward to September. Ideally, regular players should come to play at least 3 times a month. Please contact me or see me on Sunday for more info.
    I think there is a downside to this... which is if they already pay for Rm 50... they probably paiseh to continue to 3hr incase they still got power to play on. Also hard for you to keep track ppl presence.. u might need a log book

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    today is really tired, my leg still painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smjc_lim
    Received some sms/emails regarding the monthly charge for regular/permanent players.

    Will try this flexible plan to see whether it works ...

    For those interested in becoming regulars, the August monthly charge (for 5 weeks) is RM50 (10am-12pm) and RM60 (10am-1pm). Players who pay monthly can skip 1 or 2 sessions in August with the balance carried forward to September. Ideally, regular players should come to play at least 3 times a month. Please contact me or see me on Sunday for more info.
    I don't see why there should be a different charge for regular and adhoc players. It's all about playing the game* and sharing the cost. Like the Super Saturday session at New Vision, simply calculate the costs of court rental and shuttlecocks used at the end of the session, and everybody pays the same amount.

    * That means you, Lim. You need to play more, organize less. At the current rate you're running about, you should start charging an administrative cost of RM10/- per session!

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    For me i prefer free and easy.
    Pay more but no contracts... I hate contracts.
    And i dowan to keep track of anything.
    I love hotlink.

    mm got rhyme oso :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeohray View Post
    I don't see why there should be a different charge for regular and adhoc players. It's all about playing the game* and sharing the cost. Like the Super Saturday session at New Vision, simply calculate the costs of court rental and shuttlecocks used at the end of the session, and everybody pays the same amount.

    * That means you, Lim. You need to play more, organize less. At the current rate you're running about, you should start charging an administrative cost of RM10/- per session!
    I agree with Bro yeohray. All equal sharing the cost is the BEST... It is very troublesome to charge monthly fee but giving refund (or carry forward) to members who absent... At the end you will lose some money due to no enough players to cover the cost.. I experienced it before

    If Bro Lim want to get regular members, no refund should be given if they absent,,, except those need temporary leave due to works ( he/she should be inform the captain early so that captain can get visitor to replace).

    Above are my sikit opinion to Bro Lim

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    Quote Originally Posted by tucked View Post
    I think this one of the craziest thread around :P
    Even mod changed your title Challenger to SA!
    Music nice but not loud enough.
    Temporary insanity only lah! Last Sunday was an anomaly ... hard to repeat especially with the Puasa month coming up.

    Actually, I requested the mods to change the thread title.

    Errr ... maybe we should play nearer to the music ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcw84 View Post
    today is really tired, my leg still painful.
    Oops! forgot u played other sessions during the week, can ALWAYS count on u to be a Duracell bunny in this session.

    Take care, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeohray View Post
    ... need to play more, organize less.
    Sorry bro, I got MC for last Sunday, left ankle not so good ... getting old already.

    Hehe! I thought all of u did not notice that post on the monthly charge. Will probably explain the method behind my "madness" later.

    For now, I have got a hectic week ahead. Hope to see all of u this Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin Ong View Post
    ... It is very troublesome to charge monthly fee but giving refund (or carry forward) to members who absent ...

    Above are my sikit opinion to Bro Lim
    ... no refund ... trying out the carry forward ...

    No worries, bro. I can also learn from u. Come to visit when u are free (enjoy your Monday night game!)

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    Default Sports Affairs/Econsave 8 August Sunday morning 10am-12pm

    Date/Time : 8 August Sunday 10am-12pm

    Venue : Sports Affairs/Econsave
    Address : Lot 44621, Jalan Segar Perdana 1, Taman Segar Perdana, Batu 9, Cheras, 43200 Selangor.

    Court No : Court 11 & 12 (max 16 players)
    Charge/Person : RM12 (10am-12pm) RM15 (10am-1pm) RM10 (Ladies)

    Level : Backhand cannot reach baseline

    01. Lim
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    Just add your names until there are 16 players.

    Additional players will be listed as "Reserve/Standby" until the organizer (smjc_lim) manages to book the extra court - subject to availability.

    Please PM or email (smjc_lim@yahoo.com) smjc_lim your contact no (or to get his contact no) so that he can update you ASAP. Thank you very much for your co-operation.


    Many thanks to everyone who came to play last Sunday.

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    I think lim is doing a good job here. Some people ffk for certain reason, though we understand, but Lim had to book the court according to the no. of ppl attend. Most of time, less court more ppl where else more court less ppl which is the troublesome part.

    By having month charges for regular & ad-hoc charges for visitor, he can have more control on no. of ppl against no. of court. Sometimes, Lim had to bare some extra costs due to no. of ppl is different from the list posted. Besides, having month and ad-hoc charges, can have more regular ppl and there just pay on every 1st session of the month, and the rest of the session of that particular month, they don't need to paid anymore. I think he charge a reasonable charges for the monthly charges, and in the end I'm sure most of the benefit goes to the permanent regular player.

    Lim had give a lot of commitment and effort for this session and he's trying to give the best, least an enjoyable, social and fun session to you guy. As an organiser, this job is not easy when the session become regular and we all should try to understand our organiser's goodwill. This session start from Sept 2009 till now. Almost 1 year. Is not that easy to maintain and keep it on till now.

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    got background music ? didnt notice
    I think fix rate is convenient for all, shared cost need small change.
    Capt Lim, possible to book the court on the other end instead of the one next to toilet, i can smell it last sun, haha
    just my 2cents

    well done, add oil !!

    p/s: can't play this Sun.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by devince83 View Post
    I think lim is doing a good job here.
    I think everybody agrees on that point.

    Quote Originally Posted by devince83 View Post
    By having month charges for regular & ad-hoc charges for visitor, he can have more control on no. of ppl against no. of court.
    He can always have a fixed number of courts and slots for people to join, and not have to run around booking extra courts when more people decide to join. This only benefits the other people, and not Lim. Is anybody going to pay for his phone bills, petrol costs, time, etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by devince83 View Post
    Sometimes, Lim had to bare some extra costs due to no. of ppl is different from the list posted.
    This happens in part because he fixes the charges for each session up front, and not calculate it based on attendance and costs incurred at the end of the session.

    Quote Originally Posted by devince83 View Post
    Besides, having month and ad-hoc charges, can have more regular ppl ...
    By having x number of regular players, he knows in advance the minimum number of courts required, that's all. By allowing regular players to carry forward the amounts paid if they do not turn up will just unbalance everything again. Lim will just have to make phone calls to ask other people to fill up the empty slots. More unnecessary work and time spent.

    Quote Originally Posted by devince83 View Post
    I think he charge a reasonable charges for the monthly charges...
    There shouldn't be a reasonable or unreasonable charge. It should be the actual cost shared among the players. Paying just RM10/- to play 2 hours on a rubber court is not reasonable, it's a bargain, unless we're using really cheap shuttlecocks.

    Quote Originally Posted by devince83 View Post
    and in the end I'm sure most of the benefit goes to the permanent regular player.
    There should be benefits in being a regular player?

    Quote Originally Posted by devince83 View Post
    ... and we all should try to understand our organiser's goodwill.
    As I understand it, the idea of having different charges for regular/ad-hoc players was suggested to Lim by other people. If it lessens his time and money spent in organizing these sessions, then I would gladly sign up as a regular player. As it stands now, I don't see how it helps him.

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    yeohray, how bout u try to temporarily take over Lim's position as organiser for 6 month. Then u will understand purpose of all this.

    By having fix charge for monthly & ad hoc basic is indeed will lessen his time and money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devince83 View Post
    yeohray, how bout u try to temporarily take over Lim's position as organiser for 6 month.
    If Lim agrees to it, sure, but it will be on my terms and conditions i.e. no up-front stated fixed charges, no '16 slots expandable to 24 slots if demand increases' kind of situation, no complaining about shuttlecocks used, all costs shared equally, and Lim plays at least 5 tough games each session.

    Were you the one to ask him to start this regular/adhoc charges scheme?

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