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    [quote=twobeer;1337018]
    Quote Originally Posted by MetalOrange View Post

    Happy new year Metal!! And By the way... I have some Yonex sponsored players, Wilson sponsored Players, Babolat sponsored players and Forza sponsored players as friends as well .. So I don't know how that would affect any overpricing argument

    /T
    wow, so i guess i'll just stick with li ning being overpriced--pedal to the metal? oops, but the rest aren't overpriced!

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    [QUOTE=MetalOrange;1337024]
    Quote Originally Posted by twobeer View Post

    wow, so i guess i'll just stick with li ning being overpriced--pedal to the metal? oops, but the rest aren't overpriced!
    Of course they are overpriced .. In a sense all rackets selling for above manufacturing cost is "overpriced" .. Li Ning and Yonex are severely overpriced compared to smaller brands...

    Or you could look for it the other way around.. No racket is overpriced.. They are priced to what the buyers are willing to pay..

    Just as with cars, fashion, Hi-Fi etc. the "higher-end" you go, the less price/performance you will get..

    The Ferrari Enzo is quite overpriced, but if you are filthy rich I am sure you rather buy that than a Chevrolet Corvette ....

    So if you have enough money price/performance may not be the primary issue... you start looking at only performance as the major parameter for purchase..

    That is why many people buy high-end Yonex, Li Ning, Muzuno, Victor etc. even though there are better "reasonably priced" alternatives..

    /Twobeer

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    Quote Originally Posted by twobeer View Post
    I think they are speced the same. n90-II ltd is golden and n90-II is red (quite similar to the n55 color scheme).

    A small note is that N90-II does not mean that they will drop the N90. N90 and N90 will both be available.

    The paint quality of N90 is not very impressive (easy to get paint-chips!) my guess is that n90-II has more durable paint.

    N90-II should have same BP as the N90 but some inovative stuff seems to be added, for example a cone-shaped shaft (same idea as the 3-piece teapered shaft but a conic shaped one-piece construction to move the flexpoint higher).

    It is impressive to see how focused Li Nings seem to be in development/research and sponsoring.. I think we players will benefit from a stiffer competition between Yonex, Victor and Li Ning Jockeying for the no.1 badminton makers spot in the future..

    /T
    Will the N90-II be cheaper unlike the N90-II ltd which includes other items that make it more expensive?

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    [quote=twobeer;1337033]
    Quote Originally Posted by MetalOrange View Post

    Of course they are overpriced .. In a sense all rackets selling for above manufacturing cost is "overpriced" .. Li Ning and Yonex are severely overpriced compared to smaller brands...

    Or you could look for it the other way around.. No racket is overpriced.. They are priced to what the buyers are willing to pay..

    Just as with cars, fashion, Hi-Fi etc. the "higher-end" you go, the less price/performance you will get..

    The Ferrari Enzo is quite overpriced, but if you are filthy rich I am sure you rather buy that than a Chevrolet Corvette ....

    So if you have enough money price/performance may not be the primary issue... you start looking at only performance as the major parameter for purchase..

    That is why many people buy high-end Yonex, Li Ning, Muzuno, Victor etc. even though there are better "reasonably priced" alternatives..

    /Twobeer
    Will N90-II be cheaper unlike N90-II ltd which includes other items that make it more expensive?

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    [quote=twobeer;1337033]
    Quote Originally Posted by MetalOrange View Post

    Of course they are overpriced .. In a sense all rackets selling for above manufacturing cost is "overpriced" .. Li Ning and Yonex are severely overpriced compared to smaller brands...

    Or you could look for it the other way around.. No racket is overpriced.. They are priced to what the buyers are willing to pay..

    Just as with cars, fashion, Hi-Fi etc. the "higher-end" you go, the less price/performance you will get..

    The Ferrari Enzo is quite overpriced, but if you are filthy rich I am sure you rather buy that than a Chevrolet Corvette ....

    So if you have enough money price/performance may not be the primary issue... you start looking at only performance as the major parameter for purchase..

    That is why many people buy high-end Yonex, Li Ning, Muzuno, Victor etc. even though there are better "reasonably priced" alternatives..

    /Twobeer
    yonex is 'worth' it and li ning 'cost' so much to buy.

    i like the segg moreso than the enzo. however, am happy w a cayenne turbo.

    hypothetical question, ld wielding a $10 racquet and a top junior wielding the n90, who do you think would win? my guess, ld would walkover.

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    Of course LD can probably beat anyone here with a $10 racket, but we are talking about rackets, not comparing skills. Do you think a random person driving an enzo is gonna post a better laptime than an F1 driver in a 911 turbo?

    Your opinion that LN is overpriced is just an opinion, that you are free to have, similar to your opinion that Yonex is "worth it". As for what rackets feel best to each individual player, it's their opinions too. If N90 works like a charm for some specific person, than even paying $1000 for it is not overpriced, just like the same could be said of any Yonex racket too.
    Last edited by AurorAX; 01-02-2010 at 03:03 PM.

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    don't think i was clear on the racket cover and racket bag question. It was refered to the n90 racket.

    THanks

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    bbeshop.com has the li-ning n90 2 for $3980 hk dollars but it in chinese but i don't understand chinese to order. bbeshop.com/en is in english but it doesn't have n90 2. i thought they were same shop. how do i order n90 2?

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    is there not going to be a N55 II ??
    I was in the market for either a victor BS09 or a Li Ning N55 and was hoping for a N55 @ maybe a cheaper price than the $188 I saw it for

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    Quote Originally Posted by AurorAX View Post
    Of course LD can probably beat anyone here with a $10 racket, but we are talking about rackets, not comparing skills. Do you think a random person driving an enzo is gonna post a better laptime than an F1 driver in a 911 turbo?

    Your opinion that LN is overpriced is just an opinion, that you are free to have, similar to your opinion that Yonex is "worth it". As for what rackets feel best to each individual player, it's their opinions too. If N90 works like a charm for some specific person, than even paying $1000 for it is not overpriced, just like the same could be said of any Yonex racket too.
    don't worry about it, we are having fun w the exchanges re: (over)pricing. seriously, you think a nationally-rank top junior w n90 can't beat ld w/ a ten looney stick? i don't know, that's why i am intrique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiNing1 View Post
    bbeshop.com has the li-ning n90 2 for $3980 hk dollars but it in chinese but i don't understand chinese to order. bbeshop.com/en is in english but it doesn't have n90 2. i thought they were same shop. how do i order n90 2?
    my gosh , thats about 350 quid. who is going to spend that much to buy a racket . i see it is a limited edition one as well with some goodies throw in but at that price

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post
    is there not going to be a N55 II ??
    I was in the market for either a victor BS09 or a Li Ning N55 and was hoping for a N55 @ maybe a cheaper price than the $188 I saw it for
    prob, there is but you dont want to know the price for those bro !

    For me due to the ridiculous price , I wont be using a Li-Ning racket ,

    p.s. thought Yonex was bad with the price but then I see this

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiNing1 View Post
    bbeshop.com has the li-ning n90 2 for $3980 hk dollars but it in chinese but i don't understand chinese to order. bbeshop.com/en is in english but it doesn't have n90 2. i thought they were same shop. how do i order n90 2?
    Its the same shop, they're just slower to update the english site. You order by emailing them what you want anyways, so it doesn't really matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by staiger View Post
    prob, there is but you dont want to know the price for those bro !

    For me due to the ridiculous price , I wont be using a Li-Ning racket ,

    p.s. thought Yonex was bad with the price but then I see this
    I think you miss understood me

    What I meant was I was waiting for a N55 II to come out so that the N55 would be reduced I was hoping that it would be reduced from $188 to maybe $150ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawei94 View Post
    Its the same shop, they're just slower to update the english site. You order by emailing them what you want anyways, so it doesn't really matter
    thankss...i'm about to order n90 2 from bbeshop for $3980 hk dollars + shipping to usa. hope it worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiNing1 View Post
    thankss...i'm about to order n90 2 from bbeshop for $3980 hk dollars + shipping to usa. hope it worth it
    what !!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats like over 300 !!!!! Your crazy ! And you will be even more crazy to play with it !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiNing1 View Post
    thankss...i'm about to order n90 2 from bbeshop for $3980 hk dollars + shipping to usa. hope it worth it
    Its actually in rmb since bbeshop is on the mainland
    Its also much more expensive to ship from mainland than hk

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