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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    "But no China cheat or fix any game at national games." Man this is not true. One example is the WS event in 2005.
    There are two things totally different.

    What I meant was no fixing of games. That's the true competition.

    then you meant was the mistakes by empires and line judges. actually your argument strengthens what I said, because the competitions were so true that players had to fight for every points which got empires involved.

    If the games had been fixed, there would have no dispute on empires and line judges.

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    Ah? The competition was so true in 2005 WS? I guess you didn't read Chinese media/BBS around that time?

    You can also read what Gu Jun said about 2001 WD final.

    And you may have read stories of match-fixing in other disciplines, say women wrestling.

    Of course, there is no real "proof" of "under-table" agreements between provinces...

    Quote Originally Posted by 2cents View Post
    There are two things totally different.

    What I meant was no fixing of games. That's the true competition.

    then you meant was the mistakes by empires and line judges. actually your argument strengthens what I said, because the competitions were so true that players had to fight for every points which got empires involved.

    If the games had been fixed, there would have no dispute on empires and line judges.

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    Default Teams and players at the 11th China National Games

    Teams and players at the 11th China National Games

    Beijing:
    Chen Zhi Beng;
    Du Peng Yu;
    Xie Jin;
    Zhang Nan;
    Zhang JinKang;

    FuJian:
    Gong Wei Jie;
    Guo Zhen Dong;
    Liu Xiao Long;
    Chen Long;
    Chen Hong;

    GuangDong
    Wang Zhen Ming;
    Yang Wei;
    Zhang Jie Wen;
    Chen Qi Qiu;
    Zhu Jin Jin;
    Fu Hai Feng;
    Xie Xin Fang;
    Wu Yun Yong;

    GuangXi
    Chen Yu;;

    HuBei
    Wen Kai;
    Wei Yi Li;
    Gao Ling;
    Wang Xiao Li;
    Zhao Yun Lei;

    HuNan
    Zheng Bo;
    Tian Qin;
    Bao Chun Lai;
    Cai Biao;

    JiangSu
    Li Yu;
    Cheng Su;
    Sun Jun Jie;
    Xu Chen;
    Wang Rong;
    Cai Yun;
    Lu Lan;
    Tao Jia Ming;
    Qiu Yan Bo;
    Chen Jin;
    Wang Shi Xian;
    Liu Yong;

    PLA
    He Han Bing;
    Jiang Yan Jiao;
    Lin Dan;
    Wang Xin;
    Zhao Ting Ting;

    LiaoNing
    Zhou Wen Long;
    Du Jin;
    Yu Yang;
    Gao Huan;

    ShangDong
    Ma Jin

    ShangHai
    Zhu Ling;
    Wang Yi Han;
    Lu Qi Cheng;
    Zhang Wei;

    SiChuan
    Xie Zhongbo

    Hong Kong
    Zhou Mi;
    Hu Yun;
    Wang Chen;
    Ng Wei;

    ZheJiang
    Sang Yang;
    Wang Ling;

    ChongQing
    Zhang Ya Wen

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    Thumbs up It's good to find Wang Chen to forgive how she was treated before

    Quote Originally Posted by 2cents View Post

    Teams and players at the 11th China National Games

    Hong Kong
    Zhou Mi;
    Hu Yun;
    Wang Chen;
    Ng Wei;

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    It's good to find Wang Chen to forgive how she was treated at her previous China National Games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@ccc View Post
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    It's good to find Wang Chen to forgive how she was treated at her previous China National Games.
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    How was she treated last time? according to what you view it.

    I think there were definitely two things bothered Wang Chen:

    1) in the semi-finals, against Jiang YJ (also representing JiangSu), there were two disputes about line calls. Wang Chen finally lost that match.

    2) in the match determining the 3rd place, Wang Chen withdrew after trailing behind in the 1st game. After that match, Wang Chen complained that Li Yongbo did everything he could on purpose to prevent her winning, therefore she would never compete in China anymore.

    The key point here was whether or not there were bad line calls, 2nd, whether or not those judgements against her was directed by Li Yong Bo.

    Li YB said afterwards, that he respected Wang Chen as a professional player over 30 years old, but there was no such thing he was deliberately against her.

    Li also said, the empire and line judges were very good, players should not look for excuse for their loses. Those judges have better vision than players, even there could be some mistakes, but it should not be the excuse. Even Zhang Ning (Li YB's prodigy) lost in the 1st round, Xie XF also lost in early rounds. It was beyond LYB's control for who can win the gold.

    Li urged Wang Chen to be more mature. He mentioned actually it was Wang Chen who was so irresponsible to leave Shang Hai badminton club for Australia without any agreement.

    Anyway, after the national games, Wang Chen attended other tournaments in China, Wang Chen gave her explaination that she would not attend the national games only.

    Now it's good to see her again on the national games. Even if there were mistreatement, people have to understand that's part of game.

    When Obama and Shintaro came back from their unsuccessful Olympic bids, they gave the same reason "it's politics", well, both of you are the politicians. Both of you are supposed to be very good in politics.

    Same thing applies to Wang Chen, don't blame other people playing games, because you are the professional game players.

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    any result for team event today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonardklh View Post
    any result for team event today?
    Sina reported that Xie XF beat Wang YN 2:0 in the women's team event. Her team GuangDong defeated FuJiang 3:0

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    Other results:

    Women's team event:

    ShangHai (Wang Yihan, Zhu Ling) 3:0 ShangDong(Ma Jin): Wang YiHan beat Liu Jie

    GuangDong (Xie XF, Zhang Jiewen/Yang Wei) 3:0 FuJian

    ZheJiang (Wang Ling) 3:1 Hong Kong(Zhou Mi, Wang Chen): Wang Ling beat Zhou Mi

    HuNan 3:0 LiaoNing (Yu Yang/Du Jin)

    JiangShu(Lu Lan, Wang SX) 3:0 SiChuan

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    pictures:

    Women's team event ( you can see the singles and doubles in the picture)



    Liu Jie from ShangDong, who lost to Wang Yihan from ShangHai



    Zhou Mi from Hong Kong who lost to Wang Ling from ZheJiang

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    more results for team events

    Men's team events:

    JiangShu (Chen Jin, Cai Yun, Xu Chen) 3:0 ShangHai (Lu QiChen, Zhang Wei)

    JiangShu (Chen Jin, Cai Yun, Xu Chen) 3:0 HuNan (Bao ChunLai, Zhen Bo)

    ShanDong 2:3 LiaoNing (Zhou WenLong, Gao Huan)

    ShanDong 0:3 HuNan (Bao ChunLai, Zhen Bo)

    ShanDong 3:1 GuangXi (Chen Yu)

    ShangHai (Lu QiChen, Zhang Wei) 0:3 JiangShu (Chen Jin, Cai Yun, Xu Chen)

    ShangHai (Lu QiChen, Zhang Wei) 3:2 HuNan (Bao ChunLai, Zhen Bo)

    LiaoNing 3:2 ShanDong

    LiaoNing 2:3 GuangXi(Chen Yu)

    HuNan (Bao ChunLai, Zhen Bo) 0:3 JiangShu (Chen Jin, Cai Yun, Xu Chen)

    HuNan (Bao ChunLai, Zhen Bo) 2:3 ShangHai (Lu QiChen, Zhang Wei)

    HuNan (Bao ChunLai, Zhen Bo) 3:0 ShanDong

    FuJiang (Chen Long, Gong WJ) 3:0 PLA (Lin Dan)

    Hong Kong 0:3 FuJinag

    Hong Kong 3:1 BeiJing

    ... Too many ...

    Women's team events:

    JiangShu (Lu Lan, Wang SX, Cheng Su) 3:0 Hong Kong (Zhou Mi, Wang Chen)

    JiangShu (Lu Lan, Wang SX, Cheng Su) 3:0 SiChuan

    JiangShu (Lu Lan, Wang SX, Cheng Su) 3:2 HuBei (Gao Ling, Wei Yili, Zhao YunLei, Wang XiaoLi)

    GuangDong (Xie XF, Yang Wei, Zhang JW) 3:0 FuJian

    GuangDong (Xie XF, Yang Wei, Zhang JW) 3:0 LiaoNing (Yu Yang, Du Jin)

    GuangDong (Xie XF, Yang Wei, Zhang JW) 3:1 ShanDong (Ma Jin)

    .......

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    JiangShu Men's Team (Chen Jin, Cai Yun) just beat Guang Xi (lead by veteran Chen Yu) 3:1

    ShangHai is still fighting LiaoNing, now at 1:2 trailing behind.

    FuJian (lead by Chen Long, Gong WeiJie) is leading BeiJing 2:1

    HuBei is leading GuangDong (Fu Haifeng) 2:1

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    PLA men's team lead by Lin Dan 3:1 Hong Kong with Hu Yun and Ng Wei

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    Keep updating the results 2cents.....Really appreciate it....
    Thanx...

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    yups, keep updating

    still hoping other members will complete this report with the player(s)/pair(s)who involved and their score
    Last edited by PoLLuX; 10-08-2009 at 11:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cents View Post

    ZheJiang (Wang Ling) 3:1 Hong Kong(Zhou Mi, Wang Chen): Wang Ling beat Zhou Mi

    HuNan 3:0 LiaoNing (Yu Yang/Du Jin)
    Who did Du/Yu lose to??And who took 1 point to HK???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cents View Post
    JiangShu Men's Team (Chen Jin, Cai Yun) just beat Guang Xi (lead by veteran Chen Yu) 3:1

    ShangHai is still fighting LiaoNing, now at 1:2 trailing behind.

    FuJian (lead by Chen Long, Gong WeiJie) is leading BeiJing 2:1

    HuBei is leading GuangDong (Fu Haifeng) 2:1
    ShangHai lost to LiaoNing finally, 2:3

    FuJian 3:1 defeated BeiJing

    HuBei lost to GuangDong 2:3, although they once took the lead at 2:1

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_bun View Post
    Who did Du/Yu lose to??And who took 1 point to HK???
    Du Jin not teams up with Yu at the team event, here is Du Jin:


    and here is Yu Yang:

    therefore lost to Hunan's doubles.


    Yip Pui Yin won 1 point for Hong Kong, She beat Zhou Hui from ZheJing 2:1 in an hour long match.


    HuNan's Zhen Bo/Cai Bao beat Lu Jian/Zhang Moran from ShanDong 2:1



    Lin Dan beat Huang YQ from Hong Kong 2:0


    Du PengYu from Beijing lost to Chen Hong (Fujiang) 1:2


    Liu JR from BeiJing lost to Bao CL (Hunan) 0:2



    Hong Kong's Wong Wai Hong / Yohan Hadikusumo Wiratama (in picture) lost to PLA's Zhang Zhijie/Xiong Shuai 0:2



    Hong Kong's Hu Yun (in the following picture) beat Zhang Qi from PLA 2:0

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