11th China National Games-badminton Oct 11,2009: true competition at highest level

**2cents** · 10-08-2009, 04:50 PM

Zhou Hui lost to Yip in an hour long match 1:2;
Wang Ling won against Zhou Mi;
then with less than 15 minutes resting, two single specialists Wang Ling and Zhou Hui paired together for doubles against Hong Kong number 1, world number 29 Chan Tse Ka/Tse Ying Suet (in the picture).

Guess what?

World ranked 446th in women's singles player, Zhou Hui, paired with another single player Wang Ling beat world ranked 29th in doubles Chan/Tse in an easy 2:0 win.

Can you imagine that a double specialist ranked at 446th beat a single specialist ranked 29th in singles?

Even the best double players would be dead meat when playing any single professionals.

**2cents** · 10-08-2009, 05:19 PM

Zhou Hui ranked 446th in singles, no doubles ranking points, her partner Wang Ling is also a single players without any doubles ranking points. Those two paired together with little training. And also both after a very tideous and long singles match with little resting, against World 29th best doubles Tse/Chan.....and the scratch pair made by singles won easily in straight sets, even 21:12 in the 2nd game.

I read many posts here mentioned that double players are better at smashing. Reality check, when Wang Ling was asked what's the secret they won doubles so easily. Wang Ling said, Tse/Chan were very decent doubles, they played very good. She and Zhou Hui did not have secret or any strategy to play doubles, actually Wang Ling admitted she knew nothing about doubles strategy or skills. The only thing she and Zhou Hui did was smashing. Think about the fact, both Wang Lin and Zhou Hui just had smashed for 1 hours in singles. Even though, their smashes were still too strong for the 29th best world doubles.

Are Hong Kong players not good enough? Zhou Hui, with full energy, just lost to Hong Kong 3rd singles Yip. But exhausted Zhou Hui was still too much for the Hong Kong best doubles.

**2cents** · 10-08-2009, 09:04 PM

Matches on Oct 9th:

Women team event:

Guang Dong(Xie XinFang) 0:1 Shang Hai now(Wang YiHan)

Hu Nan 1:0 Shan Dong

Liao Ning 1:0 Fu Jian

PLA (Wang Xin) 1:0 Hong Kong (Zhou Mi)

Jiang Su (Lu Lan, Wang SX) 1:0 Zhe Jiang (Wang Ling)

**PoLLuX** · 10-08-2009, 09:05 PM

great info from 2cents

hmmm, If I'm not mistaken, in Sudirman Cup 2009, Zhou mi and Wang Chen played WD and they won too against double specialist player, CMIIW

**2cents** · 10-08-2009, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by PoLLuX

great info from 2cents

hmmm, If I'm not mistaken, in Sudirman Cup 2009, Zhou mi and Wang Chen played WD and they won too against double specialist player, CMIIW

exactly, for any decent singles players, they can play doubles at very high level. But we cannot expect double players to play singles.

Thanks for verifying that.

**huangkwokhau** · 10-08-2009, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by 2cents

exactly, for any decent singles players, they can play doubles at very high level. But we cannot expect double players to play singles.

Thanks for verifying that.

Thats true...remember Li Ling wei and Han Ai ping..single players but very solid WD..
Also Lim Swie King plays double also...his result was pretty good..

For double player to play single is tough...the style of attacking is different.
In Recent Tokyo Open, Taiwanese WD, Cheng Wen Shing played single against Wang Xin...very awkward play from CWS

**limsy** · 10-08-2009, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by 2cents

Zhou Hui ranked 446th in singles, no doubles ranking points, her partner Wang Ling is also a single players without any doubles ranking points. Those two paired together with little training. And also both after a very tideous and long singles match with little resting, against World 29th best doubles Tse/Chan.....and the scratch pair made by singles won easily in straight sets, even 21:12 in the 2nd game.

I read many posts here mentioned that double players are better at smashing. Reality check, when Wang Ling was asked what's the secret they won doubles so easily. Wang Ling said, Tse/Chan were very decent doubles, they played very good. She and Zhou Hui did not have secret or any strategy to play doubles, actually Wang Ling admitted she knew nothing about doubles strategy or skills. The only thing she and Zhou Hui did was smashing. Think about the fact, both Wang Lin and Zhou Hui just had smashed for 1 hours in singles. Even though, their smashes were still too strong for the 29th best world doubles.

Are Hong Kong players not good enough? Zhou Hui, with full energy, just lost to Hong Kong 3rd singles Yip. But exhausted Zhou Hui was still too much for the Hong Kong best doubles.

erm,do u know how old tse/chan are?
and they are not the hk best wd

**Sportech** · 10-09-2009, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by 2cents

Matches on Oct 9th:

Women team event:

Jiang Su (Lu Lan, Wang SX) 1:0 Zhe Jiang (Wang Ling)

what does this means anyway???LL pair with WSX n won WL???

**Shifty** · 10-09-2009, 02:56 AM

Awesome stuff 2cents, really good read. Hope to see my province GuangDong get some glory

**2cents** · 10-09-2009, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Sportech

what does this means anyway???LL pair with WSX n won WL???

sorry for the confusion. It simply means Jiang Shu team lead by Lu Lan, WSX was leading Zhe Jiang 1:0 lead by Wang Ling.

Originally Posted by Shifty

Awesome stuff 2cents, really good read. Hope to see my province GuangDong get some glory

Thank you Shifty for reading. Guang Dong has been a strong powerhouse of badminton in China since the beginning, when badminton introduced by oversees Chinese from Malaysia and Indonesia. All the Chinese from other parts of China learnt badminton from Guang Dong or Fu Jian.

From my personal experience, Guang Dong is probably the most popular place for badminton in China, there are lots of high level local badminton clubs too.

Here are the standings for each team:

Men's team----Wins---Net Matches Won---Famous Players---Status
Jiang Shu ---- 4 ---- 10 ----Chen Jin, Cai Yun, XC, TJM *F4
Guang Dong --- 3 ---- 5 ---- Fu Hai Feng
Fu Jian -------- 3 ---- 5 --- Chen Hong, Chen Long, Gong WJ, Guo ZD
Hu Nan -------- 2 ---- 1 --- Bao CL, Zheng Bo
PLA ----------- 2 ---- 0 ---- Lin Dan, He Han Bin
Shang Hai ----- 2 ---- 0 ---- Lu QC, Zhang Wei, Wang Wei
Hong Kong ----- 2 ---- 0 ---- Hu Yun, Ng Wei
Bei Jing -------- 2 ---- (-1) -- Du PY
Liao Ning ------ 2 ---- (-1) -- Zhou WL

Women's team----Wins---Net Matches Won---Famous Players---Status
Jiang Shu ---- 4 ---- 8 ----Lu Lan, Wang SX, Cheng Su *F4
Guang Dong -- 4 ---10----Xie XF, Zhu JJ, Zhang JW, Yang W*F4
Hu Nan ------ 4 ---- 10 ----Tian Qin*F4
Hu Bei --------2----2-------Gao Ling, Wei YL, Zhao YL, Wang XL
Zhe Jiang -----2--1-------Wang Ling
PLA-----------2---3-----Jiang YJ, Wang Xin, Zhao TT -- Eliminated
Shang Hai -----2---1 ---- Wang YiHan, Zhu Ling --- Eliminated
Fu Jian --------1--(-6)--------------------------------Eliminated
Hong Kong-----1--(-7) -- Zhou Mi, Wang Chen, Yip PT -- Eliminated
Shan Dong-----1--(-7) -- Ma Jin -----------------------Eliminated
Si Chuan-------1--(-7)---------------------------------Eliminated
Liao Ning ------ 0 -- (-8) --- Yu Yang, Du Jin -----------Eliminated

*F4 = (Advanced to Final 4)

**2cents** · 10-09-2009, 10:03 AM

Who's China's number 4 and number 5 after the 3 all mighty musketeers(Lin Dan, Chen Jin, Bao CL) ?

From the world ranking, they are: Chen Long and Gong Wei Jie.

From the players China sends to Denmark open, the answers are also: Chen Long and Gong Wei Jie.

Unfortunately, both Chen Long and Gong Wei lost today.

Chen Long 0:2 Hu Yun (19:21, 19:21)
Gong WJ 1:2 Chan Yan Kit

Therefore Fu Jian, another powerhouse, lost to Hong Kong 0:3

other interesting matches worth to mention:

Lin Dan 2:0 Wu Yunyong 21:15, 21:13
Chen Jin 2:0 Gao Huan
Bao CL W.O. Chen Yu 11:5

**2cents** · 10-09-2009, 08:57 PM

**giant** · 10-09-2009, 10:09 PM

the second pic,is that he hanbin?

**conan93** · 10-09-2009, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by giant

the second pic,is that he hanbin?

yup. it is he hanbin n his twin brother he hanqing

**CLELY** · 10-09-2009, 10:21 PM

From the twins pix, who're the other two pairs? Only know He Hanbin & his bro.
Thx for the report and pictures, 2cents ^^

**Shifty** · 10-09-2009, 11:26 PM

:O He Hanbin has a twin brother!!! That's awesome. Imagine if they were both really good doubles players. That'd be a site watching them play in the international circuit. Or against each other with mixed partners

The closest we've gotten to that would be the Sidek brothers?