11th China National Games-badminton Oct 11,2009: true competition at highest level

**conan93** · 10-10-2009, 04:20 AM

the 4 teams that are in the semifinals for the women's team event are:

GuangDong
Hubei
JiangSu
Hunan

**conan93** · 10-10-2009, 04:24 AM

women's team event semifinal

GuangDong vs Hubei
JiangSu vs Hunan

**leonardklh** · 10-10-2009, 10:09 AM

any other result for today?

**2cents** · 10-10-2009, 10:23 AM

now for the team events, the first stage, group stage is finished. Here are the standings after group round robin:

Men's:

Group 1:

1. Jiang Su （5:0) Chen Jin, Cai Yun, Xu Chen, Tao JM(China master champ)
2. Liao Ning
3. Shang Hai
4. Hu Nan - Bao CL, Zheng Bo
5. Shan Dong
6. Guang Xi - Chen Yu

Group 2:

1. Fu Jian - Chen Hong, Chen Long, Gong WJ, Guo ZD
2. Guang Dong - Wang ZM, Fu HF
3. Hong Kong - Chan, Hu, Ng
4. PLA - Lin, He HB
5. Bei Jing
6. Hu Bei

Women's

Group 1:

1.Guang Dong - Xie XF, Zhu JJ, Yang W, Zhang JW
2.Hu Nan - no famous player
3.Shang Hai - Wang YH, Zhu Ling
4.Shan Dong - Ma Jin
5.Fu Jian
6.Liao Ning - Yu Yang, Du Jin

Group 2:

1. Jiang Su - Lu Lan, Wang SX, Cheng Su
2. Hu Bei - Gao Ling, Wei YL, Wang XL, Zhao YL
3. PLA - Jiang YanJiao, Wang Xin, Zhao Tingting
4. Zhe Jiang - Wang Ling
5. Hong Kong - Zhou Mi, Wang Chen, Yip PT
6. Si Chuan

Only the team in bold advanced to the semifinals.

Now comes the 2nd stage, which is the knock-out stage.

the draw for Men's team

Jiang Su vs Guang Dong
Fu Jian vs Liao Ning

Women's

Jiang Su vs Hu Nan
Guang Dong vs Hu Bei

My prediction:

For men's

Jiang Su vs Guang Dong:

last national game, Jiang Su grabbed gold medal and Guang Dong got the silver. Both of them are still very strong. This is supposed to be the final but unfortunately Guang Dong lost to Fu Jian in the round robin.

Jiang Su is strong in both men's and women's, and also strong in both singles and doubles. Anyhow, Guang Dong has its chance at Wang Zhenming and Fu Hai feng, these two guys are very good. Veteran WU Yuyong and Chen QQ could also steal one victory if lucky enough.

**giant** · 10-10-2009, 10:29 AM

i never heard his bro's name...but quite interesting twin bros play doubles.....

**conan93** · 10-10-2009, 09:40 PM

Guang Dong vs Hubei 2-0

Liu jian 21-12 21-11
Zhang JieWen/ Yang Wei 21-18 21-8

**2cents** · 10-10-2009, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by conan93

Guang Dong vs Hubei 2-0

Liu jian 21-12 21-11
Zhang JieWen/ Yang Wei 21-18 21-8

Thanks for the updates, now Jiang Su is leading also 1-0 Hu Nan

**2cents** · 10-10-2009, 10:07 PM

Guang Dong defeated Hu Bei 3-0 advanced to the final. Congratulations!

Jiang Su is tied with Hu Nan 1-1

**conan93** · 10-10-2009, 10:07 PM

GuangDong enters the final by beating Hubei 3-0

**Ferrerkiko** · 10-11-2009, 12:43 AM

Any brothers know whether is Lin dan using back Yonex armotec 700 at this tournament?

**2cents** · 10-11-2009, 09:52 AM

Results updates:

Men's:

Jiang Su 3:0 Guang Dong
Fu Jiang 3:1 Liao Ning

Jiang Su and Fu Jiang in the men's final

Women's

Jiang Su 3:2 Hu Nan
Guang Dong 3:0 Hu Bei

Jiang Su vs Guang Dong in the women's final

Hong Kong women team lost again to Liao Ning, now Hong Kong is the one of two worst team in the knock out stage. Imagine that: with top player in the world ranking, Zhou Mi, WR1 and WR9: Wang Chen and WR14 Yip Pui Yin. Hong Kong is supposed to be the 2nd best in the World! , but in China national games, Hong Kong has to fight with fujian for the 11th place in 12 teams.

The 2nd best team in the world = the worst or 2nd worst out of 12 teams in a country

**simonlovers** · 10-11-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by 2cents

Results updates:

Men's:

Jiang Su 3:0 Guang Dong
Fu Jiang 3:1 Liao Ning

Jiang Su and Fu Jiang in the men's final

Women's

Jiang Su 3:2 Hu Nan
Guang Dong 3:0 Hu Bei

Jiang Su vs Guang Dong in the women's final

Hong Kong women team lost again to Liao Ning, now Hong Kong is the one of two worst team in the knock out stage. Imagine that: with top player in the world ranking, Zhou Mi, WR1 and WR9: Wang Chen and WR14 Yip Pui Yin. Hong Kong is supposed to be the 2nd best in the World! , but in China national games, Hong Kong has to fight with fujian for the 11th place in 12 teams.

The 2nd best team in the world = the worst or 2nd worst out of 12 teams in a country

But Hongkong WD not so good..
1st WD = #29
2nd WD = #40

**tommy_bun** · 10-11-2009, 11:14 AM

Jiangsu wins men's badminton team tourney final berth at National Games

www.chinaview.cn

2009-10-11 20:52:50

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QINGDAO, East China, Oct. 11 (Xinhua) -- The first final berth of men's badminton team tournament went to Jiangsu at the 11th National Games here on Sunday.
Jiangsu, men's team defending champion, meeting almost no challenge from Guangdong, runner-up at last Games, wrapped up the victory of 3-0.
Li Yu of Jiangsu defeated Wang Zhengming of Guangdong in two straight sets 21-14, 21-15.
"Though Wang is younger than me, I still tried to challenge him no matter physically or mentally." Li explained his win.
First doubles match between Cai Yun-Xu Chen and Fu Haifeng-Zhu Lihua was highlighted as Cai and Fu are a golden pair in the Chinese national team. The duo ended the drought in 2006 that China has never won a men's doubles world title since 1989 and lifted the title again in 2009.
The fist set proved to be a tough one as Cai and Xu notched up the game 21-19. However in the second, Cai and Xu led the way and never looked back to secure a 21-12 victory, putting Jiangsu 2-0 ahead.
"I am so familiar with Fu. Whoever will win depends on his form," said Cai." Since Fu, Xu and I are all national shuttlers, our strategy is to play against Zhu. We won the first set thanks to some good luck but in the second, we are better in terms of overall strength."
Xu added: "Fu is good at backcourt play so we tried to play a frontcourt match and dominate the net."
Fu was satisfied with their performance. "I thought Zhu and I cannot cooperate well but actually we did a good job. Cai and Xu are clearly better than us so we just tried to play our best."
Chen Jin, world No. 4, wrapped up Jiangsu's 3-0 victory by frustrating Zhu Pengxiang 21-15, 21-15.
"I had no pressure as we have won the first two matches," said Chen. "We might meet Fujian in the final. We have to make solid preparation for that as they are balanced both in singles and doubles."

**Loh** · 10-11-2009, 11:23 AM

www.chinaview.cn
2009-10-10 16:19:09

QINGDAO, East China, Oct. 10 (Xinhua) -- Hubei beat Zhejiang to win the last berth of semifinals of women's badminton team event at the China's 11th National Games here on Saturday.

The other berths went to Guangdong, Hunan and Jiangsu.

After two losses in first singles and first doubles matches, Zhejiang was put on the cliff as another loss meant they cannot reach the semis. Then current women's singles world No. 1 Wang Lin defeated Chen to earn one point for Zhejiang. However, former world champion Gao Ling and Wei Yili dashed the hopes of Zhejiang by pipping Li Xiao and Shen Xiaobo, helping Hubei to the victory of 3-1.

"As our doubles cannot challenge Hubei, three singles players are under great pressure," Wang explained their loss. Olympic runner-up Xie Xingfang outplayed Cheng Wen of Hunan 21-15, 21-13, putting Guangdong on the right track for the 3-0 victory.

"I have been taking up systematic training with Guangdong team," the 28-year-old veteran said. "We are working hard to play each match no matter how strong our rival is."

Apart from Xie, Guangdong also has Olympic women's doubles champions Yang Wei and Zhang Jiewen. They are eyeing for the team champion to better their second placing in last National Games.

Hosts Shandong notched up their first match by frustrating Fujian 3-2. Liu Jie, serving as Shandong's first singles player, said: "We played a better match than before."

Shanghai, who reserved big names like Wang Yihan and Zhu Lin, lost to Liaoning 3-0. Jiangsu, who has secured a semi berth, gave way to People's Liberation Army 3-0.

**chris-ccc** · 10-11-2009, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by 2cents

Results updates:

Men's:

Jiang Su 3:0 Guang Dong
Fu Jiang 3:1 Liao Ning

Jiang Su and Fu Jiang in the men's final

Women's

Jiang Su 3:2 Hu Nan
Guang Dong 3:0 Hu Bei

Jiang Su vs Guang Dong in the women's final

Hong Kong women team lost again to Liao Ning, now Hong Kong is the one of two worst team in the knock out stage. Imagine that: with top player in the world ranking, Zhou Mi, WR1 and WR9: Wang Chen and WR14 Yip Pui Yin. Hong Kong is supposed to be the 2nd best in the World! , but in China national games, Hong Kong has to fight with fujian for the 11th place in 12 teams.

The 2nd best team in the world = the worst or 2nd worst out of 12 teams in a country

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2cents, Thank you for the Results Updates.

It's a surprise that Jiangsu and Guangdong are so consistent in the Mens and Womens events most of the time (in getting into the semi-finals).

However, from what is observed, probably Fujian could win the Mens, and Guangdong the Womens.

Talking about the subject on top ranking Hong Kong women players in the world, it's because they are participating in more tournaments to earn their ranking points.

It is unfortunate that many good women players from various provinces of China couldn't get a chance to participate in more world tournaments to show their skills and to improve their world rankings. This problem is caused by them not being able to make it into the national team. Even those who could make it into the national team, they are restricted to participate in fewer tournaments.

It is hope that one day China would increase their team size/structure and allow more good provincial players to participate in more world tournaments. A good example to follow is: How Russian women players can dominate the top rankings in World Tennis.
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**2cents** · 10-11-2009, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by chris@ccc

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2cents, Thank you for the Results Updates.

It's a surprise that Jiangsu and Guangdong are so consistent in the Mens and Womens events most of the time (in getting into the semi-finals).

However, from what is observed, probably Fujian could win the Mens, and Guangdong the Womens.

why Fu Jian could win the Men's instead of Jiang Su? Jiang Su is stronger in both singles and doubles. All Fu Jian's singles have lost several times in this National Games, but Jiang Su's have been much more stable. Jiang Su's doubles are even much better than Fujian's too. By the way, Jiang Su is the reigning champion, and never underestimate the Champion.

For women's, Guang Dong seems stronger than Jiang Su in doubles, but Jiang Su is stronger in singles. And also Guang Dong has the same player as 4 years ago but not as strong as that time. All their best players: Xie XF, Yang Wei, Zhang JieWen, are half retired. They did not win 4 years ago at their peak time, how to manage to win this time.

Originally Posted by chris@ccc

Talking about the subject on top ranking Hong Kong women players in the world, it's because they are participating in more tournaments to earn their ranking points.

It is unfortunate that many good women players from various provinces of China couldn't get a chance to participate in more world tournaments to show their skills and to improve their world rankings. This problem is caused by them not being able to make it into the national team. Even those who could make it into the national team, they are restricted to participate in fewer tournaments.

Totally agree.

Originally Posted by chris@ccc

It is hope that one day China would increase their team size/structure and allow more good provincial players to participate in more world tournaments. A good example to follow is: How Russian women players can dominate the top rankings in World Tennis.
.

Russian was not strong before, even their best ever before, Anna Kournikova has never won anything yet. It's Anna Kournikova's successful story that made millions of Russian girls purchasing their dreams in tennis. Also Anna's success in commercial made many sponsors investing money on those cute girls from Russian. Back to 10 years ago, there were also 5 or 6 Russians in top 25, but most of them ranked around 20th.

**2cents** · 10-11-2009, 08:09 PM

by the way, in the round robin, Fu Jian advanced to final by edging Guang Dong 3:2 in the last match in the group, if Fu Jian lost to Guang Dong, it would be eliminated from final 4.

On the other hand, Jiang Su has an easy 3:0 against Guang Dong in semifinal.