11th China National Games-badminton Oct 11,2009: true competition at highest level

**Jonc108** · 10-11-2009, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by chris@ccc

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It is hope that one day China would increase their team size/structure and allow more good provincial players to participate in more world tournaments. A good example to follow is: How Russian women players can dominate the top rankings in World Tennis.
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If this happens, the WS (or may be WD as well) WR would probably has a red sea from #1 to #10 at least (and all Chinese at quarter finals

)... but you know people are already screaming about Chinese dominance and asking for limiting entries from a single country (particularly China)...

so you know this is not going to happen...

**leonardklh** · 10-12-2009, 07:45 AM

any result for today?

**2cents** · 10-12-2009, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by leonardklh

any result for today?

Jiang Su vs Fu Jiang in the final tomorrow (men)
Jiang Su vs Gong Dong in the final tomorrow (women)

today's results:

Men's:

Guang Dong bt Liao Ning 3:1 (Guang Dong got the bronze)

PLA bt Hong Kong 3:1

Hu Nan bt Shang Hai 3:1

Bei Jing bt Hu Bei 3:0

Shan Dong bt Guang Xi 3:2

Women's

Hu Bei (Bronze) 3:1 Hu Nan

PLA 3:0 Zhe Jiang

Shan Dong 3:0 Shang Hai

Liao Ning 3:2 Si Chuan

Hong Kong 3:1 Fu Jian

**2cents** · 10-12-2009, 11:16 AM

4 years ago, Xie XF was thought the best single while Zhang JW/Yang Wei the best doubles. But they won nothing in any event including team, singles, and doubles during last national games 4 years ago. Today, when people are not sure about their abilities, they have cruised to the final for the team event. Are they ready for the gold?

So far, Xie XF, Yang W, Zhang JW are awesome, Xie XF slaugtered Wang YH (the latest Japan Open title winner) 2:0 with the 2nd game score 21:8. Yang Wei/Zhang JW even gave Wang XL/Zhao YL a traning lesson on how to play. The tuition was the 0:2 lost in semi. I'm not joking. Yang Wei did teach Wang XL and Zhao YL how to play after easily winning the match. While Wang XL and Zhao YL have been regarded the strongest competitor for women's doubles, because they have won 3 national level titles, defeated Du Jin/Yu Yang twice and rarely lost any.

Here is the final lineup and my predictions:

WS1: Xie XF vs Lun Lan -- 50:50
WD1: Yang W/Zhong QX vs Tang JH/Tan W -- 60:40
WS2: Xia JY vs Wang SX -- 10:90 -- should be one sided match
WD2: Zhang JW/Yao GJ vs Sun XL/Cheng Su -- 50:50
WS3: Liu Jian vs Wang Rong -- 50:50

Guang Dong hopes to win 2 doubles and 1 singles. Jiang Su bets on winning 1 doubles, especially the Sun XL/Cheng Su.

Guang Dong should be happy about the singles line up. On doubles, they split Yang W/Zhang JW to make 2 strong doubles.

**george@chongwei** · 10-12-2009, 11:33 PM

Manage to watch the ws match between WSX and the guang dong girl just now.
It was a great match. WSX won the game in 3 sets

**chris-ccc** · 10-13-2009, 12:29 AM

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Congratulations to the Guangdong Mens and Hubei Womens teams for getting the Bronze.

At the beginning of the Games, I thought both teams were strong enough to make it into the Finals.
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**conan93** · 10-13-2009, 01:13 AM

Jiangsu won the women's team event by beating Guangdong 3-1

congratulations!!

**chris-ccc** · 10-13-2009, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by conan93

Jiangsu won the women's team event by beating Guangdong 3-1

congratulations!!

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Thanks conan93 for the results.

Congratulations. GOLD to Jiangsu Womens Badminton Team.

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**conan93** · 10-13-2009, 01:39 AM

Score for the finals

LL beat XXF 21-19 21-9
TJH/TW lost to YW/ZQX 21-18 21-12
WSX beat XJY 19-21 21-13 21-17
SXL/CS beat ZJW/YGJ 17-21 21-16 21-16

**chris-ccc** · 10-13-2009, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by conan93

LL beat XXF 21-19 21-9
TJH/TW lost to YW/ZQX 21-18 21-12
WSX beat XJY 19-21 21-13 21-17
SXL/CS beat ZJW/YGJ 17-21 21-16 21-16

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Feel sorry for XXF in her last appearance.
Yes, LL and WSX were the ones that Guangdong considered hard to beat.
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**george@chongwei** · 10-13-2009, 06:19 AM

lol, fu hai feng and his partner lost to xu chen and cai yun.

**george@chongwei** · 10-13-2009, 06:33 AM

watching chen jin vs chen long live now..its on cctv5

this should be a cracker.

**2cents** · 10-13-2009, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by 2cents

Here is the final lineup and my predictions:

WS1: Xie XF vs Lun Lan -- 50:50
WD1: Yang W/Zhong QX vs Tang JH/Tan W -- 60:40
WS2: Xia JY vs Wang SX -- 10:90 -- should be one sided match
WD2: Zhang JW/Yao GJ vs Sun XL/Cheng Su -- 50:50
WS3: Liu Jian vs Wang Rong -- 50:50

Things go exactly what I predicted! Wow

to myself.

Actually, I wrote
Xie XF vs Lu Lan -- 49:51
Zhang JW/Yao GJ vs Sun XL/Cheng Su -- 49:51

but changed to 50-50. I also predicted Jiang Su's win. That came true too.

Most people always underestimate Jiang Su. In China, when people talking about badminton, they always talking about Guang Dong and Fu Jian.

when Li YB were asked by journalist which provinces would grab badminton gold, Li YB said, of course Fu Jiang and Guang Dong. In fact, last national games, neither Fu Jiang nor Guang Dong won any gold.

after Jiang Su's winning, the head coach for Jiang Su said: People have to admit that Jiang Su is a power house in badminton.

Reality check: Jiang Su won the most gold from last national games overall, now it is also leading in the standing in gold. Jiang Su is a powerhouse in sports overall. In badminton, Jiang Su has won 4 consecutive team gold for last 4 national games which spans 16 years.

Jiang Su has produced super stars like Yang Yang, Zhao Jianhua, Ge Fei, Gu Jun, Sun Jun, Zhang Jun,... there is no other team from anywhere in the world coming close.

It was true that no one in Jiang Su knowing how to badminton back to 50 years ago. Yang Yang's parents were playing basketball, they wanted their son a basketball star, but Yang Yang could not grow taller after reaching 176cm which was not good enough for playing basketball professionally. Then he began to learn badminton, actually at the begining from books because none knew how to play. When Jiangsu released their 1st ever badminton players like Yang Yang, Zhao Jiang Hua, and Yang Qian Li from scratch, they stunned the whole world!

**2cents** · 10-13-2009, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by 2cents

Originally Posted by chris@ccc

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However, from what is observed, probably Fujian could win the Mens, and Guangdong the Womens....

why Fu Jian could win the Men's instead of Jiang Su? Jiang Su is stronger in both singles and doubles. All Fu Jian's singles have lost several times in this National Games, but Jiang Su's have been much more stable. Jiang Su's doubles are even much better than Fujian's too. By the way, Jiang Su is the reigning champion, and never underestimate the Champion...

the Men's team gold should go to Jiang Su too. there is a huge distance between Jiang Su and Fu Jian.

Jiang Su has won all the matches easily against all the other teams, while Fu Jian, just barely survived from round robin.

Hope my prediction came true in the men's team event too.

**2cents** · 10-13-2009, 11:09 AM

Jiang Su is just simply too strong for Fu Jian.

Jiang Su defeated Fu Jian with 3:0

Chen Jin 2:0 Cheng Long

Tao Jia Ming/Sun Jun Jie 2:0 Guo Zhen Dong/Liu Xiao Long

Qiu Yan Bo 2:1 Gong Wei Jie

Fu Jian sent all their best hopes already. Jiang Su won even without their top double ace Cai Yun / Xu Chen, and 2nd single Li Yu.

Final standing:

1) Jiang Su
2) Fu Jian
3) Guang Dong

Jiang Su, using Li Yu, Cai Yun/Xu Chen, Chen Jin, defeated Guang Dong(Wang Zhen Ming, Fu Hai Feng) 3:0

Jiang Su, then using others, Chen Jin, Tao Jia Ming/Sun Jun Jie, Qiu Yan Bo, defeated Fu Jiang (Chen Long, Guo ZD/Liu XL, Gong Wei Jie) 3:0 again.

This implies that even the silver team Fu Jian and bronze Guang Dong combined together with their best players. Jiang Su would easily defeat them 5:0.

4 national games gold in a row which covers 16 years long dominating!

Jobs well done, Jiang Su!

**2cents** · 10-13-2009, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by chris@ccc

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Congratulations to the Guangdong Mens and Hubei Womens teams for getting the Bronze.

At the beginning of the Games, I thought both teams were strong enough to make it into the Finals.
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Originally Posted by chris@ccc

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However, from what is observed, probably Fujian could win the Mens, and Guangdong the Womens....
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Thanks for your comments. But ...

You thought Fu Jian win the Men's, Guang Dong strong enough in the Men's final.

You thought Guang Dong win the Women's, while Hu Bei strong enough in the final

Then where is Jiang Su in your eyes?

**chris-ccc** · 10-13-2009, 02:04 PM

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Thanks 2cents for the results.

Originally Posted by 2cents

Most people always underestimate Jiang Su. In China, when people talking about badminton, they always talking about Guang Dong and Fu Jian.

when Li YB were asked by journalist which provinces would grab badminton gold, Li YB said, of course Fu Jiang and Guang Dong. In fact, last national games, neither Fu Jiang nor Guang Dong won any gold.

after Jiang Su's winning, the head coach for Jiang Su said: People have to admit that Jiang Su is a power house in badminton.

It's good that Jiangsu proved that Li Yongbo can be wrong.

Originally Posted by 2cents

Jiang Su defeated Fu Jian with 3:0

Chen Jin 2:0 Cheng Long
Tao Jia Ming/Sun Jun Jie 2:0 Guo Zhen Dong/Liu Xiao Long
Qiu Yan Bo 2:1 Gong Wei Jie

Fu Jian sent all their best hopes already. Jiang Su won even without their top double ace Cai Yun / Xu Chen, and 2nd single Li Yu.

Final standing:
1) Jiang Su
2) Fu Jian
3) Guang Dong

Jiang Su, using Li Yu, Cai Yun/Xu Chen, Chen Jin, defeated Guang Dong(Wang Zhen Ming, Fu Hai Feng) 3:0

Jiang Su, then using others, Chen Jin, Tao Jia Ming/Sun Jun Jie, Qiu Yan Bo, defeated Fu Jiang (Chen Long, Guo ZD/Liu XL, Gong Wei Jie) 3:0 again.

Congratulations. GOLD to both Jiangsu Mens and Womens Badminton Teams.

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