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Thread: Canon G's G10 and G11
12-20-2009, 01:53 PM #69
i actually think the G11 is great. for those people who have a DSLR (esp Canon one) but don't want to haul a huge camera around all the time, the G11 is perfect for gathering and parties. it has a lot of controllability, the noise is only one stop worse than the avg. 4/3 sensor. and what is excellent is that it will talk to a full size Canon flash.
all these at half the price of a 4/3 camera.
and no Chris, i am not getting one. i do however, accept gifts, xmas is coming. *hint* *hint*.
12-20-2009, 09:32 PM #70
Also pls remember a Canon G10 or G11 may be cheaper than a micro four thirds but it has a shorter service life, mainly due to its inability to have lens interchangeability. Lenses depreciate much less than bodies and a micro four thirds system can also use all the other DSLR lenses in the market, almost without exception. This alone enables one to get into the system on a modular basis.
12-20-2009, 11:42 PM #71
As a m4/3 owner, I have already recommended the G11 to several budding photographer friends. The service life of a camera is determined solely by the user (IMHO) and the price to pay for getting into an interchangeable lens system is just one of the many factors. I know of someone who will not bring his D200 on tour but uses his trusty f31fd instead and still makes very good pictures.
12-21-2009, 12:03 AM #72
i am still using G7 and take crap photos.....
12-21-2009, 02:04 AM #73
I got my gf a G10 a few months ago and we take it out on days where I don't lug around my D90. I think the cam is really good for its purpose but a faster lens would have been better.
12-21-2009, 03:00 AM #74
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12-21-2009, 04:07 AM #76
That's exactly the point and the question..
That's why, like i already mentioned, you can't compare your LX3 and the S90 or SD880.
If Leica can come up with a pocket size digital camera, the same physical size as the LX3, which has the same focal length zoom lens capability like the S90 while still keeping a F/2.0 aperture, then i'd give it to Leica & you can talk and brag away. If not, then there's no point of picking on the S90.
Last edited by ctjcad; 12-21-2009 at 04:12 AM.
12-21-2009, 05:22 AM #77
12-21-2009, 07:43 AM #78
12-21-2009, 08:25 AM #79
The LX3's aperture of F/2.0 to F/2.8 on a zoom range from 24mm to 60mm is already on the theoritical size limit of a P&S. If you push the zoom to say 100mm then something will have to be shrunked, and that is the lens speed from F/2.0 at 24mm to perhaps F/5.6 at 100mm.
As a rough rule of thumb a big fat lens with a huge diameter is an indication of fast lens speed, even if the zoom range is limited. In contrast, a small and thin lens may indicate a large zoom range with pin-hole size apertures of perhaps F/5.6 to F/6.4. Give me a fat lens anytime. With fat lenses there is a lot of glass across and it means more light.
12-21-2009, 08:40 AM #80
Perhaps not many owners of P&S cameras realize that the LX3 is an unrivalled flagship in the P&S field. Just look around you and see if there are other P&S cameras offering a 24mm wide angle plus an almost constant zoom aperture from a very fast F/2.0 to F/2.8 lens speed. This is quite extraordinary and incredible, but it seems it is lost on many. Its so called rival the Canon S90 has a very modest F/2.0 to F/4.9 aperture through its zoom. In fact that F/4.9 is a disgrace to its F/2.0 at its wide angle side. It brings disgrace to what a blue blood F/2.0 is. This type of extremes of lens speeds through its zoom range belongs to the lower tier of P&S cameras.
12-21-2009, 10:18 AM #81
Panasonic LX3 35mm Equiv.: 24-60mm f2.0-f2.8
Canon S90 35mm equiv 28-105mm f/2.0-4.9
Surprised you missed this part Taneepak. The maximum apertures at the long end are not comparable in focal lengths. We should compare the maximum aperture of the S90 is at the 60mm (35mm equiv). I suspect the maximum apeture is larger than f4.9....unless I've missed something obvious.
12-21-2009, 10:19 AM #82
just ditch those itsy bitsy p&s and get a D3 (Nikon, that is.) and nikkor lenses!
12-21-2009, 11:40 AM #83
12-21-2009, 11:48 AM #84
12-21-2009, 01:24 PM #85
Off topic-It's like "Dooohh!!!"..
And until the LX3 comes out with the same lens specs as the S90, this comparison shouldn't even exist.
Last edited by ctjcad; 12-21-2009 at 01:31 PM.