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    Quote Originally Posted by fathonezic View Post
    i know it, but many good players in senior are good also in juniors...
    lin dan ... AJC winner 2000
    sony... WJC SF 2000
    bao chunlai... WJC Winner 2000
    Lee Chong Wei... WJC SF 2000
    Lee Yong Dae... WJC winner,
    Markis Kido/Liliyana, AJC Winner 2003
    Chen Long, Maneepong Jongjit, Axelsen, Ratchanok WJC Winner...
    and many more,,,... at least, many of them reach QF in WJC or AJC...

    cmiiw

    but i agree with you, attitude and right development is the most important.
    Junior achievement only show that they were well developed in their junior time
    Yes, exactly what I meant. INA has done well, 7 in QF. Whether they become semifinalists or champions or others, at least by participating in WJC and AJC, they gained the experience.

    We hardly seen players who are not playing in juniors squad in WJC or AJC, becoming very good in senior. But winning in juniors competition not necessary developing into senior level.

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    Congratulations for INA juniors for one surely tittle ini WJC 2012. XD once again put 2 pairs ini the final by bertingkat 2 CHN pairs ini semi. Hidup INA Junior!!!

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    the result this year is worse compare to last year, with only 1 gold and 1 silver

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    congratulation Edi/Melati... big bonus from PB Djarum

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosid View Post
    the result this year is worse compare to last year, with only 1 gold and 1 silver
    Last year, juniors from "that country" didn't participate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Last year, juniors from "that country" didn't participate...
    not much different after they participate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Last year, juniors from "that country" didn't participate...
    haiyah.. no matter they participate or not, we must be better and better..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosid View Post
    haiyah.. no matter they participate or not, we must be better and better..
    so damn right, rosid !

    bajinguk bener tenan dab !

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosid View Post
    haiyah.. no matter they participate or not, we must be better and better..
    Easier said than done, mas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    hmm,the most china will get in this wjc are 2 titles(out of 6).the most.
    i think it is a wise choice for them not to participate,in order to safe face,just like last wjc.
    even if they participate last year,they wont win ms,ws,md and team event. wd and xd are about 50% only.
    aiyor yor,they won the team event,i thought it would have belongs to japan who won 2 gold and 2 silver in individual tournament.
    but anyhow,they perform even worst than what i expected(which i believe is the most pessimistic)

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    next year will be very hard for INA... no world class junior player. only Kevin/Raffi

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    aiyor yor,they won the team event,i thought it would have belongs to japan who won 2 gold and 2 silver in individual tournament.
    but anyhow,they perform even worst than what i expected(which i believe is the most pessimistic)
    Wait until they enter CBA and feel LYB midas touch. Roar!!!
    But seriously, this is the aspect where CBA really excels. I have to admit (and admire) that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Wait until they enter CBA and feel LYB midas touch. Roar!!!
    But seriously, this is the aspect where CBA really excels. I have to admit (and admire) that.
    yes
    i believe pbsi will become like cba soon in term of producing result(without match fixing of couse)

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    yes
    i believe pbsi will become like cba soon in term of producing result(without match fixing of couse)
    how can you so confidence, limsy ?
    even, i only feel that we will get better result, but not as good as CBA.
    we dont have the talent they have... our talent in WS and WD are good but not so good like CBA have...

    looking at MS, our talent is not very good as well...
    even, if the coaching staff is still the same as before, i dont think we will make it big.

    actually i prefer rexy to be the head coach in double (WD and MD).

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    After the euphoria of retaining the XD title in the WJC, it's time to begin thinking about who are the players we shall send to AJC/WJC 2013. I believe that the quality of players may actually be inferior compared to this year, especially in XD (with Edi, Melati, Alfian, etc all no longer eligible).

    Some of the candidate players:
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    Fikri Ihsandi Hadmadi
    (17) - he will still be eligible next year and hopefully the experience this year will help him. 1 Sirnas title in 2012 and Kejurnas 2011.

    Ihsan Maulana Mustofa (17) - 3 Sirnas titles in 2012

    Jonathan Christie (15) - not sure if he's selected since he will only be 16 next year, but I think we should send him! BNI-Astec title (Taruna) in 2012, 4 Sirnas titles (3 in Remaja+1 Taruna) in 2011.

    BD - we are spoilt for choice here...but need to select the top 3!
    Arya Maulana Aldiartama (17) - he will still be eligible but will he be kept by Djarum and paired with another player? Tough decision! One alternative is to partner Kevin back with Arya and then Rafi with Jeka Wiratama?

    Kevin Sanjaya Sukamuljo/Rafiddias Akhdan Nugroho (17/16) - both have tasted painful defeat this year and hopefully they will come back stronger next year (esp for Rafi).

    Hantoro/Arsya Isnanu Ardi Putra (17/16) - 1 Sirnas title (Taruna) and India Junior Challenge title in 2012.

    Tedi Supriadi/Yantoni Edy Saputra (16/15) - 1 Sirnas title (Taruna) in 2012.

    R. Eka Fajar Kusuma/Rian Swastedian (17/16) - 2 Sirnas titles (Taruna) in 2012 and 3 more (Remaja) in 2011. But current form isn't exactly that good. Still, I think we need Rian Swastedian in XD!

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    Hanna Ramadhini (17) - she will surely be selected considering her decent achievement in AJC & WJC this year. She's also the Kejurnas 2011 winner.

    Setyana Mapasa (17) - ditto as Hanna. She also won 2 Sirnas titles (Taruna) and the Tangkas-Specs Junior Challenge in 2012.

    Lya Ersalita or Ruselli Hartawan (15) - I feel that they better concentrate in GD and XD maybe.

    Fitriani (14) - she's already winning 4 Sirnas titles (Remaja)+Cilegon Open and BNI Astec titles in 2012. Definitely the most promising of the U-17.

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    Rosyita Eka Putri Sari
    (15) - Rosyita will need a new partner. Masita Mahmudin (16) or Desaula Gendy (17) perhaps perhaps?

    Lya Ersalita/Ruselly Hartawan (15) -1 Sirnas title (Taruna) and Li-Ning Junior International in 2012.

    Berliyan Sudrajat/Meirisa Cindy Sahputri (16/16) - 4 Sirnas titles (Remaja) in 2012.

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    Rian Swastedian/Masita Mahmudin
    (16/16)- 3 Sirnas titles+BNI Astec title (Taruna) in 2012 and 5 Sirnas titles (Remaja) in 2011. So far, they look to be the strongest.

    Aldo Abdillah Harsono/Desaula Gendy (17/17)- 3 Sirnas titles (Remaja) in 2011.

    Tedi Supriadi/Della Augusta Surya (16/17) - Runner-Up in Tangkas-Specs Junior Challenge 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fathonezic View Post
    how can you so confidence, limsy ?
    even, i only feel that we will get better result, but not as good as CBA.
    we dont have the talent they have... our talent in WS and WD are good but not so good like CBA have...

    looking at MS, our talent is not very good as well...
    even, if the coaching staff is still the same as before, i dont think we will make it big.

    actually i prefer rexy to be the head coach in double (WD and MD).
    because hauge is there
    he is passionate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    because hauge is there
    he is passionate!
    i understand... he also the one that make me feel optimistic...

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