2009 East Asian Games Hong Kong

[george@chongwei]

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Rubbish!
LD lost fair and square to the Korean player.
This goes to show that a rookie can win when the best player is off form.


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that's right.

even the MIGHTY lin dan lost to an unknown player some more and he can give excuses such as 'tired'

[limsy]

sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but pai hsiao ma is pai min jie right? if so, why did she change her name? if not, is she her sister? haha

yes
i check with my friend
she say yes
this two is the same person
for why pai changed name
i will ask her if i got chance

[skchen]

that's right.

even the MIGHTY lin dan lost to an unknown player some more and he can give excuses such as 'tired'

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It is so typical of the Chinese players.
They are not gracious losers.
How can LD be so tired when he was so selective of his playing schedule this year. He only played in 7 SS tournaments and the last tournament he played was the 2009 China SS tournament, the final of which was held on 22/11/2009.
I say 'Give credit where credit is due'.


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[limsy]

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It is so typical of the Chinese players.
They are not gracious losers.
How can LD be so tired when he was so selective of his playing schedule this year. He only played in 7 SS tournaments and the last tournament he played was the 2009 China SS tournament, the final of which was held on 22/11/2009.
I say 'Give credit where credit is due'.


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acording to lindan spokesman in bc
lindan get constant distraction from both media and fans
i just know that his mental not any better than lcw that need to go KOREA to avoid attention
hehe
so,playing some exhibition matches with some social player is taxing for lindan too

[huangkwokhau]

TH apologizing for not playing well..got balsted by TH haters...now LD gave excuses and he should have said that " I did not play well;;;"..Since LD said it and suddenly those LD fans agreed that he played TOO many tournaments..even some of tournaments he got EASY DRAW plus some help from teammates...

Chinese fans should learn to be mature...

[huangkwokhau]

How come LCW is brought into this thread? If you would like to praise LCW maybe you should wait until his next victory over Lin?

You should remind your one of LD fans always attack LCW or TH and put LD thingy in their thread...this is nothing compare what he did..he should read them and send him PM..

[robin7]

let me give u a real example

liu jun who won the AE MS title in 1992 by beating legendary ZJH by a score:
Men's singles Liu Jun beat Zhao Jianhua 15–13, 15–13

Then about a month later, Liu Jun came to canada to play the 1992 canadian open. A tall good looking dude, and everyone thinks it's a cake walk for him. No, Liu Jun lost to Jae Chang Ahn of Korea, practically an unknown player at that time. Here is the inside scoop. While in calgary, some people here took liu jun to site seeing almost everyday, wine and dine him every nite. On the nite before the final, he was up at ~3am with guests, and oogling on the photography equips from this one photographer host. Now i wonder why he lost the next late morning match??? lol

If u deniers like to count this lost as official, sure, go ahead. LD lost a match to Choi Ho Jin, still way behind lcw and TH's embarassment losing to much lower players many times, in more serious badminton tournaments.

Were you just born?

This is the most ridiculous and stupid example I've ever seen as everyone knew it was a team order to let LJ win over ZJH. I did watch that match, ZJH didn't attack at all but he was sending the shuttle out and into the net at many occasions. Even blind could see that it was an team order.

[robin7]

1. 得饶人处且饶人 (fans are to be more forgiving)? It only applicable for CHN palyers I guess.
2. Tired after a long season? Yeah, blaming LYB for letting him playing 10 tourneys compared to LCW's 16 this year.
3. Lin Dan is Serena Williams in badminton who will never give credits to the opponents. Classless Reigning Olympic and World Champions eh?
4. Super Dan just lost to someone outside 700 in world ranking ONLY ONCE. No big deal? Do we see Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal losing that terribly?

Lin Dan & his hard core fan, grow up please!

[majyun]

even those brainless will know he wont
he is chinese hard core fans
as for 得饶人处且饶人,i dont see u say that when lcw,taufik or koo/tan been attacked
lol

Well, the thing is...I am not a moderator and there's nothing I could do if Malaysian Players are getting attacked.Maybe, is better to take this up to Oldhand, Kwun or Drifit?

Look at the bright side, at least I did not jump into the bandwagon with them and start attacking the Malaysian players right?

1. 得饶人处且饶人 (fans are to be more forgiving)? It only applicable for CHN palyers I guess.
2. Tired after a long season? Yeah, blaming LYB for letting him playing 10 tourneys compared to LCW's 16 this year.
3. Lin Dan is Serena Williams in badminton who will never give credits to the opponents. Classless Reigning Olympic and World Champions eh?
4. Super Dan just lost to someone outside 700 in world ranking ONLY ONCE. No big deal? Do we see Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal losing that terribly?

Lin Dan & his hard core fan, grow up please!

I think there's couple of misunderstandings here. I should have made my previous posts clearer.

1. The idiom was meant for LD's fans, not to the CHN players. I think almost all of our national players have good personality. LD is more...flamboyant I would say and nothing is wrong with that.
2. He did play a lot of tournaments this year although not as much as LCW. Him being fatigue is understandable but he forgot that other players around the world(who is active in the world circuit) are equally as tired as him if not more.
3. LD did give credit to Choi for playing well. When I said not giving credits to his opponents, I was clearly referring to LD's hardcore fans(you know who I was talking abt, dont you.). I think your statement no. 3 isn't fair to LD.
4. No comment. All I can say is even the genius will have his off day.

IMHO ,if you are a little more tactful in putting your thoughts across, more respect will come your way. Anyway, peace...this is not a Malaysia+Indonesia vs China thread.

[huangkwokhau]

Well, the thing is...I am not a moderator and there's nothing I could do if Malaysian Players are getting attacked.Maybe, is better to take this up to Oldhand, Kwun or Drifit?

Look at the bright side, at least I did not jump into the bandwagon with them and start attacking the Malaysian players right?


I think there's couple of misunderstandings here. I should have made my previous posts clearer.

1. The idiom was meant for LD's fans, not to the CHN players. I think almost all of our national players have good personality. LD is more...flamboyant I would say and nothing is wrong with that.
2. He did play a lot of tournaments this year although not as much as LCW. Him being fatigue is understandable but he forgot that other players around the world(who is active in the world circuit) are equally as tired as him if not more.
3. LD did give credit to Choi for playing well. When I said not giving credits to his opponents, I was clearly referring to LD's hardcore fans(you know who I was talking abt, dont you.). I think your statement no. 3 isn't fair to LD.
4. No comment. All I can say is even the genius will have his off day.

IMHO ,if you are a little more tactful in putting your thoughts across, more respect will come your way. Anyway, peace...this is not a Malaysia+Indonesia vs China thread.

Well said..I know well that many chnese players are freindly...even some make friends with others...the only problem is both side do not speak English or vice versa...like Wang YiHan is a good friend of Kim Moon hi and other Koreans....Simon with Tago..Hendra Setiawan with JJS, Boonsak with Zhangning or Kennivic...XZB with Nova...MAS WD with Zhou Yunlei/Zhang Yawen, etc...
Greysia with LHJ/her partner.....

[madbad]

It's amusing. The players seem to have little problem with each other. The fans, on the other hand, seem bent on creating them. I'm talking about fans on both sides of the fence.

The petty tit-for-tat comments and fighting to have the last word–is there a need to hurt somebody else's feelings? Is there a need to rub it in?

You know what, the last thing the players need are over zealous fans to defend them. I don't think they really care. And they're grown up enough to take care of themselves.

[cooler]

I don't really understand how LCW and TH got into this thread when they were not even competing in this East Asian Games(not part of East Asia too). However, thanks to those over zealous LD's fans who love to sidetrack the other forumers in just about any thread, this doesn't come as a surprise to me. I don't think I seen people talking abt LD in the South East Asian games thread and this is a good sign.

I think Choi Ho Jin did a very good job here despite not being the favourite. However, I think some of the Bcers have gone a little too far by saying that CHJ(Choi) will not go far when he meet LD in the future and LD was just not in the mood of playing in the final game. This act of not giving credits to your idol's opponent for his hard work in final is just unclassy at best. Incidentally, I know that this is just an effect of LD's fanboys-ism and that appears to me to be just a desperate measure to save LD's honour when he was not in his best in the final game.

Lastly, I am interested to see if Ajaib will create another thread in dedication to LD's defeat to a player who was not even in BWF ranking(or at least out of WR# 700).

See the link below for more details on how this come about:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=68189

I think a thread with the title: "The worst reigning Olympic and World Champion ever in badminton history" will be nice. I hope Ajaib will be fair enough to ceate a thread like this so that others won't accuse him for being biased against LCW.

P/S: The lesson I learn from this is 得饶人处且饶人(rough translation: an idiom asking a person to be more forgiving even though he/she is at a better position than others). Anyway, good luck to both CHJ and LD in their future tournaments.

who's not giving CHJ credit for winning? I've he was the fitter player on the court. He chases down every rally and whack back the shuttle every chance he could. I don't need to save LD's honor, his record speak for itself. On those rally he play like normal LD, he wins those rallies. LD lost because no desire, no speed, no stamina. It reminds me of TH's normal playing style.

[ctjcad]

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LD lost because no desire, no speed, no stamina. It reminds me of TH's normal playing style.

..that's a sneak preview of what's to come of LD or when his career winds down in a few yrs??..

But, guys, can you imagine if CHJ has more pace or speed around the court??
Another thing i noticed is, I think one of the advantages/disadvantages of lefty playing against lefty is the chance for CHJ or LD to whack his forehand shot straight back to the other's backhand. I noticed that in a few occasions, CHJ would push or drive back the shuttle to LD's backhand and LD could only do so much. If LD were playing against a right-handed player, unless that player has the same backhand prowess like TH, LD would already be prepared for that player's backhand shot.

[cooler]

..that's a sneak preview of what's to come of LD or when his career winds down in a few yrs??..

But, guys, can you imagine if CHJ has more pace or speed around the court??
Another thing i noticed is, I think one of the advantages/disadvantages of lefty playing against lefty is the chance for CHJ or LD to whack his forehand shot straight back to the other's backhand. I noticed that in a few occasions, CHJ would push or drive back the shuttle to LD's backhand and LD could only do so much. If LD were playing against a right-handed player, unless that player has the same backhand prowess like TH, LD would already be prepared for that player's backhand shot.

well, the skill difference between the 2 players is so obvious. How many rackets CHJ had to change because of mis-hit? lol CHJ avoid the net area.


Even the dryest desert get that rarest spurt of rain to give a short lived desert bloom. I'm seeing a desert bloom right here right now...


"In the future everyone will be famous for 15 minutes." (Andy Warhol)

[Wong8Egg]

1. 得饶人处且饶人 (fans are to be more forgiving)? It only applicable for CHN palyers I guess.
2. Tired after a long season? Yeah, blaming LYB for letting him playing 10 tourneys compared to LCW's 16 this year.
3. Lin Dan is Serena Williams in badminton who will never give credits to the opponents. Classless Reigning Olympic and World Champions eh?
4. Super Dan just lost to someone outside 700 in world ranking ONLY ONCE. No big deal? Do we see Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal losing that terribly?

Lin Dan & his hard core fan, grow up please!

Read your own post again and your pt #1 fail miserably already. I pity you for having to mock LD as hard as you can, because opportunity like this doesn't come very often.

[cooler]

acording to lindan spokesman in bc
lindan get constant distraction from both media and fans
i just know that his mental not any better than lcw that need to go KOREA to avoid attention
hehe
so,playing some exhibition matches with some social player is taxing for lindan too

u need to wear the man's shoe for a day to know it. Since i know u didn't caught LD's shoe at the 08 OG, u have to wait for your 15 minutes of fame. Be patience my fren, it will come to u one day

[ytyang]

I suppose we are all hoping LD will get back to BWF events ASAP to
show us that he is still the dominant force.

My understanding LD will be playing China professional league this
week, not sure if he'll attend KO open next year... certainly wish
he can make it.