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    My wife only plays Mixed Doubles. She has been playing for 7 years so far,
    and has been using Carlton "airblade 1000". I've used her racket and found
    that it's too light to generate much power for smashes or clears.

    So I'm thinking of helping her to upgrade her gear. Here're the requirements:
    + Give some better support for power shots (smashes/clears). She
    needs this mostly for receiving serves
    + Support speedy racket works at the net and mid-court, which I take it
    means that it can't be too heavy (perhaps esp. head-heavy?).
    + Presumably reasonably good touch feel, as is required for net play.

    What're some of the good models we should be considering? What string
    tension would be good in this situation?

    Thanks,
    Raymond

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    YONEX TISP SR!!!...
    That's what I used. I was upgraded from an AB1000. In terms of everything, the TISP SR is a better in everything except the price!!...
    The TISP SR has better power generation and actually feels a little bit heavier than the AB1000 because SR is head heavier.
    Other candidates might be:
    MP88
    Winex's line of TISP
    Not sure about other brands or racquets....

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    A lot of the female players at the clubs here use Ti-7 light and couple w/ Swing power 900 SR. They seem to have decent power and control. Another choice is Victor Ge Fei 2000 if you can find that.

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    power ultimately comes from the muscles. GongZC used the SR (probably CN so heavier than normal). however, i suggest something a little bit heavier. the normal choice would be a SS. alternative would be a regular length Cab racket. a cab20 (muscle version is cheap and available) or something more flexy to help her gain some "whip" from the shaft. a racket that used to exist in the market and i used to recommend to beginners is the Aerotus44. flexy enough, and medium balance and weight.. oh well, not found anymore..

    you are right though, a heavier racket has more momentum and is more stable. so give her more time to swing it and follow through.

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    Originally posted by kwun
    alternative would be a regular length Cab racket. a cab20 (muscle version is cheap and available) or something more flexy to help her gain some "whip" from the shaft.

    Cab20 MS (mine: 2U, G4) is a good overall racket. Nice control with decent power. I consider it as a good racket for double. There is also 3U version available in some dealers.

    The only problem is, I am a guy... hhehehehhehehe...

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    Originally posted by kwun
    a racket that used to exist in the market and i used to recommend to beginners is the Aerotus44. flexy enough, and medium balance and weight.. oh well, not found anymore..
    Well, talk about coincidences, RSX just posted up two Aerotus 44 (used) for sale. Raymond, you might be interested in checking out the thread.

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    Originally posted by LazyBuddy
    Cab20 MS (mine: 2U, G4) is a good overall racket. Nice control with decent power. I consider it as a good racket for double. There is also 3U version available in some dealers.

    The only problem is, I am a guy... hhehehehhehehe...
    hm.. with more thoughts, now i think a Cab20MS will not be an appropriate choice. for beginner with little strength, a heavier and flexier racket is better.

    so my suggestion on a aerotus44 still holds. and any other cabs with more flex to it. or perhaps one of the new generation cab8?

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    and i believe the FAQ question still holds for a lady:

    http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/sho...&threadid=7741

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    a heavier and flexier racket is better.
    Not always, some people have weak wrists and I have found the flexiable light rackets work wonders?

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    Originally posted by NVIDIA256
    Not always, some people have weak wrists and I have found the flexiable light rackets work wonders?
    i don't understand. you mean it does work wonder or does not work wonders?

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    Originally posted by kwun
    hm.. with more thoughts, now i think a Cab20MS will not be an appropriate choice. for beginner with little strength, a heavier and flexier racket is better.
    Why's a heavier racket better only for beginners. Is flex not good at more adv. level because flex comes with a certain loss of control/accuracy (simply because, well, it
    flexes)?

    BTW, how do people contrast Yang Yang Tactic 9000, ISO Ti Swing (SS/SR),
    Muscle Power 88, and the Aerotus 44? What're the major pros and cons?

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    Originally posted by raymond
    Why's a heavier racket better only for beginners. Is flex not good at more adv. level because flex comes with a certain loss of control/accuracy (simply because, well, it
    flexes)?

    BTW, how do people contrast Yang Yang Tactic 9000, ISO Ti Swing (SS/SR),
    Muscle Power 88, and the Aerotus 44? What're the major pros and cons?
    Hi,

    i didn't say heavier only for beginners. but i was just echoing what you said that a heavier racket is good for beginners.

    flexy racket are too flexy if one hits hard. the racket deforms too much during hit, thus less feel...

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    Originally posted by raymond
    My wife only plays Mixed Doubles. She has been playing for 7 years so far,
    and has been using Carlton "airblade 1000". I've used her racket and found
    that it's too light to generate much power for smashes or clears.

    So I'm thinking of helping her to upgrade her gear. Here're the requirements:
    + Give some better support for power shots (smashes/clears). She
    needs this mostly for receiving serves
    + Support speedy racket works at the net and mid-court, which I take it
    means that it can't be too heavy (perhaps esp. head-heavy?).
    + Presumably reasonably good touch feel, as is required for net play.

    What're some of the good models we should be considering? What string
    tension would be good in this situation?

    Thanks,
    Raymond
    One thing to note. How do your wife feel about your assessment? Did she find the racquet too light? (actually, did she find it hard to do clears from the backline?)

    In mixed, most of the time, the lady is playing front and so do not really need to generate power but rather speed to put away easy returns.

    Based on your requirements, I would have the following observations (not knowing how your wife plays)
    - in receiving, she would want to either drive or smash the serve in order to put the other team on the defensive. Clearing would put her and partner on the defensive.
    - racquet should be head light for faster responses. Soft/Med flex racquets can give added power.
    - net play (touch) will depend on the string and tension. What is her current racquet strung at?

    Racquets that you might want to try includes the Ti Swing Power (Yonex, Winex, etc), the Winex Might Muscle 90, Yonex MP77 (Winex has lighter racquets - 4U but not sure if that would be suitable for your wife).

    Overall, she will have to find a racquet that she feels most comfortable with.

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    on a side note. a point that i eluded on earlier but never elaborated is this... trying to have her buy a new racket and expect improvement in power is ok, but it will forever be marginal increase.

    if you want her to play better, then you should let her play regular doubles. don't make it too hard though, pick some easier opponents. let her do some work and have fun while she is at it.

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    I don't know why the term "beginner" came up. The lady we're talking about has been playing for 7 years!

    raymond, I'd recommend Ti SP SS. My requirements are the same as your wife's when playing mixed. The SS gives me good power to return the flick serves with fast drops or smashes (weak smashes though. I still need to work on that). This racquet gives excellent control and feel (when strung with BG-85). I'd say the best out there. It's 3U and evenly balanced, so it's fast and very maneuverable. It may take some time to get used to this racquet because it's stiff (but the stiffness gives very good control for net play). It took me about a month, but I love this racquet now.

    I guess Ti SP SR may be faster and more maneuverable (for better defense and net shots). Although the SR is head-heavy, the overall weight is light (81g), so it's still fast. I'm tempted to get an SR to make a comparison with my SS ... well, my new hobby - badminton - is getting expensive

    For net play, the SS should be strung with BG-85, at 21-22 lbs for women like me

    I also have an MP-88, but I don't recommend it. It's more flexible than the SS and does not give as much power. It's a little bit faster and more maneuverable than the SS, but it's not as durable as the SS from what I heard (my MP-88 is still intact )

    In any case, for a lady who plays at net, I think she should use 3U racquets. If it's 2U, it must be head light (like Ti-7?).

    I hope this helps.

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    Originally posted by Winex West Can
    - in receiving, she would want to either drive or smash the serve in order to put the other team on the defensive. Clearing would put her and partner on the defensive.
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    WWC, Thank you for the affirmation. This is what I'm doing now to deal with flick serves (high serves), using (weak) smashes or fast drops, because I can't clear far. My partner then covers the net for me for any return at the net. I was not sure if that was right way, but from what you said, it should be right.

    Should I also use drives to return high serves (in mixed doubles)?

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    Originally posted by Tammy
    I don't know why the term "beginner" came up. The lady we're talking about has been playing for 7 years!

    raymond, I'd recommend Ti SP SS. My requirements are the same as your wife's when playing mixed. The SS gives me good power to return the flick serves with fast drops or smashes (weak smashes though. I still need to work on that). This racquet gives excellent control and feel (when strung with BG-85). I'd say the best out there. It's 3U and evenly balanced, so it's fast and very maneuverable. It may take some time to get used to this racquet because it's stiff (but the stiffness gives very good control for net play). It took me about a month, but I love this racquet now.

    I guess Ti SP SR may be faster and more maneuverable (for better defense and net shots). Although the SR is head-heavy, the overall weight is light (81g), so it's still fast. I'm tempted to get an SR to make a comparison with my SS ... well, my new hobby - badminton - is getting expensive

    well, i have been playing for 15 yrs. and heck, i think i still suck at it. and besides, i have seen Mrs. raymond played before. (no offense, raymond... )

    i do like the recommendation of the SS though, however, as you said, it may be stiffer than desirable, but that will give her some room to grow. i do like the balance point of the racket.

    that's the racket i recommended to janet when she first started. she was trying out a few of my rackets, include the Iso900SR/SS/MP100/cab20, etc, and at the end, she picked the Iso900SS CN. well, i recommended the TiSP SS to her and she now has two of those............ plus one Iso900SS CN -- what can i say, she has good taste..

    Tammy, i have used both the Iso900SR/SS for extended amount of time, they are very similar to the TiSP SR/SS. i recommend sticking with the SS, the SR is light, and too light to be stable and offer less control over touch shots on the net.

    raymond, i am sure janet will be happy to let your wife hit a few shots with her TiSPSS. let me know when you guys are around.

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