11-28-2009, 04:13 AM #18
XD sucks! or maybe it's just me :D
well the comp is over and i SUCKED at XD! hard to get muscle memory by reading although i tried my best hehe.
I felt completely useless at the net and wasn't able to get any good shots in... couldn't intercept any cross courts either.
it was weird.. altho in theory my partner and i individually were better than the guy and girl opponents respectfully (at singles).. we still got thrashed thanks to me
btw r there any girls out there who like playing mixed and playing at the net? can someone explain to me the fun in that? i'm still grouching after today's experience and how much i suck
thanks again everyone for the replies!
11-28-2009, 04:53 AM #19
Lots of people misunderstand that girls have to stay at the front because guy's smash are stronger but instead you change positions from front to back accordingly depending on the situation.
11-28-2009, 07:37 AM #20
11-28-2009, 04:13 PM #21
12-01-2009, 07:50 AM #22
Hi Scoobydoo and all,
I'm a girl, been playing for a few years, both mixed and ladies doubles.
I would probably say that i'm more comfortable playing at the back than at the front. In mixed though, we rotate our positions so that when we are attacking I go to the front and when defending we go sides. (I understand in mixed the lady is supposed to go diagonal to the person who is attacking to defend the crosscourt smash/drop, giving her more time to react – though a lot of men I play with don’t know this and so we defend more like level doubles) I find that to be effective at the front your partner needs to be attacking (i.e. smashing or dropping – NOT clearing and lifting) to force a weak reply which you would then kill at the net.
Your partner is attacking as much as possible from the back right?
That way it forces the opposing team to go in a defensive formation thus are in a weaker position to attack and the net lady would be further from the net and less threatening.
Also don’t blame yourself entirely. I would say that adjusting from level doubles to traditional mixed is more difficult for the man as they are actually responsible for more of the shots. Plus theoretically they are supposed to be doing all the smashing from the back so need a lot of stamina.
From my experience there are some men who are always quick to point the finger at the woman when they lose. Recently I played with a guy who was constantly clearing the shuttle to the guy in the other team who has a strong smash, even when he was in a position to attack. Thus – me expecting to go in the attacking formation had to go back to the defensive formation to defend these return smashes. We lost in the end – and then he had the audacity to say it was my fault cos I should be staying at the front at ALL times.
If you are a strong woman player and can take shots at the back – keep playing how you would normally play but try go to the front when you are attacking to prevent them from isolating you at the back. However in the meantime keep practicing the mixed formation and your net play and when you’re both comfortable then play that formation.
There’s no point jumping from method straight to another when you are both unfamiliar with it. It will make you both play worse – which is what I suspect happened in your tournament.
12-01-2009, 08:33 AM #23
Sadly this kind of rubbish is common in mixed doubles at club level. I find it frustrating when coaching adult players, as the poor women have been force-fed these idiotic positional ideas by their men partners, who often just want them to "stay out of the way".
Thankfully some women, such as yourself, have the confidence to ignore this "coaching" and take part properly in the rallies.
But it's hard work persuading the others, who have been told (sometimes bullied!) over many years to stick their noses on the net and not move from that position.
12-01-2009, 03:19 PM #24
Rotation is key but if you plan on playing more mixed then get comfortable at the net.
Maybe in doubles make an effort to go to the net more often and try to control the net. There won't be as much pressure in womens doubles to make the perfect shot to it's a good time to practice net play.
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