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    lin dan thread is temporary closed

    and many post deleted.

    many times mod has warn us to agree to disagree

    i wonder who were those responsible

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    Angry I wonder who were those responsible......

    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    lin dan thread is temporary closed

    and many post deleted.

    many times mod has warn us to agree to disagree

    i wonder who were those responsible
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    Perhaps those responsible are now banned from BC, so they won't be causing more trouble.
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    Arrow LCW vs Lin Dan... who will be better in this tournament?

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    Tried to post in this thread - 'LCW vs Lin Dan... who will be better in this tournament?' located at;
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...his-tournament

    And I got this reply "Sorry! This thread is closed!".
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    I'm not surprised that the thread is now close. Way too much off topic towards the end.

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    Arrow I suspect thread starter is just another troll

    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    I'm not surprised that the thread is now close. Way too much off topic towards the end.
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    Did you read Post #9 of that thread?

    I think drifit was right; when he posted;

    "I suspect thread starter is just another troll. create, hit and run. this is my opinion and i didnt see his/her opinion."
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    Thumbs up Recently, our BCers are well-behaved

    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Did you read Post #9 of that thread?

    I think drifit was right; when he posted;

    "I suspect thread starter is just another troll. create, hit and run. this is my opinion and i didnt see his/her opinion."
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    Lately, it's found not many threads have been closed by our BC admin/moderators.

    It must be because that our BCers are now well-behaving.
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    Arrow Must add in this just closed thread

    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
    Lately, it's found not many threads have been closed by our BC admin/moderators.

    It must be because that our BCers are now well-behaving.
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    Must add in this just closed thread;

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...tions-Lin-Dan-)

    Many congratulated Lin Dan for winning the the 2011 Korea PSS.

    But many comments have made Lee Chong Wei looking small/inadequate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Must add in this just closed thread;

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...tions-Lin-Dan-)

    Many congratulated Lin Dan for winning the the 2011 Korea PSS.

    But many comments have made Lee Chong Wei looking small/inadequate.
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    Yes, i dont know why they made comments like that,

    can it be they forgot the thread's title?

    Post after post a few members keep harping the same tune ..


    Anyway kwun has closed it to cool things down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Must add in this just closed thread;

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...tions-Lin-Dan-)

    Many congratulated Lin Dan for winning the the 2011 Korea PSS.

    But many comments have made Lee Chong Wei looking small/inadequate.
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    Some of the comments were quite useful and neutral.

    Common sense says that it works both ways, repeated taunts and snide remarks on

    certain stars will surely provoke tit for tats from rivals. To avoid it is best to remain
    neutral, censor not only criticisms from rivals but also practice self-censorship avoid
    provoking statements that is obvious will attract counter attacks.

    Chris CC is quite neutral and we have mods here but the self-appointed vigilantes

    are themselves not doing much to promote discussion.Instead there appears to be attempts to bait and

    undermine the mods and prevent them from doing their job.
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    Arrow If I were a moderator, I would close down that thread too

    Quote Originally Posted by Bbn View Post
    Some of the comments were quite useful and neutral.

    Common sense says that it works both ways, repeated taunts and snide remarks on

    certain stars will surely provoke tit for tats from rivals. To avoid it is best to remain
    neutral, censor not only criticisms from rivals but also practice self-censorship avoid
    provoking statements that is obvious will attract counter attacks.

    Chris CC is quite neutral and we have mods here but the self-appointed vigilantes

    are themselves not doing much to promote discussion.Instead there appears to be attempts to bait and

    undermine the mods and prevent them from doing their job.
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    If I were a moderator, I would close down that thread too.

    It started as a 'positive' thread to congratulate Lin Dan. Unfortunately, it ended up as a 'negative' thread to belittle Lee Chong Wei.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    If I were a moderator, I would close down that thread too.

    It started as a 'positive' thread to congratulate Lin Dan. Unfortunately, it ended up as a 'negative' thread to belittle Lee Chong Wei.

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    That thread aside, if we want to prevent similar incidents, we have to set a good example by not belittling and mocking anyone whether

    rivals, mods, other forum members etc. We do not want a situation where there are groups dominating and browbeating other members from

    speaking their minds, that would be Mat Rempit behaviour.

    Also its silly to try to tell people to stick within the topic, so long as it is related, it is relevant, otherwise we will have thousands of little posts with bits of limited superficial information like in facebook or youtube, this is a forum not a chat-room and it allows more details and related info to be discussed in greater depth and scope.

    For eg, WTM's discussion was interesting, once you open a new thread, people lost interest because the background info was cut-off.

    Of course it would be better to move part of the thread but I think mods have a full time pro job and cant afford to spend time moving and

    joining threads everyday.

    Of course there are volunteers to do the job but there are also pros and cons with that, we end up with a heavily censored

    movie where only certain people are allowed to say only certain things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    If I were a moderator, I would close down that thread too.

    It started as a 'positive' thread to congratulate Lin Dan. Unfortunately, it ended up as a 'negative' thread to belittle Lee Chong Wei.

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    Beside belittle lcw there were a lot of off topic as well and I really mean the 'off topics' .....
    Last edited by pBmMalaysia; 02-17-2011 at 09:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    you are attempting to twist my words.

    we are trying to moderate the forum such that useful information can be expressed in a polite and civil manner.

    for those who are knowledgeable, say it in a nice way. if one know a bunch of stuff, why come out arrogant and rude? it makes much more sense to express it so it can be accepted.

    for those who are seeking knowledge, or those who are less informed, polite ask for and accept new knowledge from others. no one knows everything, everyone need to learn from others.

    that's the goal of the forum.
    Hey Kwun, I don't have time to read all threads in BC but I'm glad I read this post today. I respect your philosophy and wisdom in running the forum, which reflects your personality and attitude to life too...

    My philisophy concurs with yours. It's meaningless to tell the world where we are, people will be much more impressed and convinced one day when they discover where we are....

    Keep up the good work!

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    Thumbs up We are here as a community of Badminton lovers

    Quote Originally Posted by winstonchan View Post
    Hey Kwun, I don't have time to read all threads in BC but I'm glad I read this post today. I respect your philosophy and wisdom in running the forum, which reflects your personality and attitude to life too...

    My philisophy concurs with yours. It's meaningless to tell the world where we are, people will be much more impressed and convinced one day when they discover where we are....

    Keep up the good work!
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    I couldn't agree with you more.

    Our kwun and moderators have kept BC going well. Although some BCers are not thinking similarly, most BCers understand that we are here as a community of Badminton lovers.

    It is often that we find BCers loving their idols (and other things) instead of loving our sport, Badminton, itself.
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    thank you winston and chris.

    it is not possible to force everyone to behave overnight. but hopefully by letting everyone know what our goal is, by having members understand what our aim is, then people will slowly realize that we can discuss and talk about our beloved game of badminton in a civil way.

    and i hope members who knows our goal here will help us by lead by example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbn View Post
    That thread aside, if we want to prevent similar incidents, we have to set a good example by not belittling and mocking anyone whether

    rivals, mods, other forum members etc. We do not want a situation where there are groups dominating and browbeating other members from

    speaking their minds, that would be Mat Rempit behaviour.

    Also its silly to try to tell people to stick within the topic, so long as it is related, it is relevant, otherwise we will have thousands of little posts with bits of limited superficial information like in facebook or youtube, this is a forum not a chat-room and it allows more details and related info to be discussed in greater depth and scope.

    For eg, WTM's discussion was interesting, once you open a new thread, people lost interest because the background info was cut-off.

    Of course it would be better to move part of the thread but I think mods have a full time pro job and cant afford to spend time moving and

    joining threads everyday.
    Of course there are volunteers to do the job but there are also pros and cons with that, we end up with a heavily censored

    movie where only certain people are allowed to say only certain things.
    There are other problems with that approach too:

    1) You end up with many posts delted, or a thread of rubbish if you take the interesting parts of one discussion & condense it into a new thread

    2) New people may join in the thread 6 months down the line, not knowing we have removed other points may kick start it all over again

    3) As you also note some other members may not like the heavy moderation/deltion of posts

    The best way for the forum to succeed is for member to observe the rules and try to contribute with their posts rather than posting one liners, abuse or sarcasm. People should respect each others opinion & post their own instead.

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    Thumbs down Posting in one liner

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesd20 View Post
    The best way for the forum to succeed is for member to observe the rules and try to contribute with their posts rather than posting one liners, abuse or sarcasm. People should respect each others opinion & post their own instead.
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    I actually find it strange when I see some BCers posting one liners.

    These BCers look like they wish to communicate, but wish not in full.

    Are they keeping us guessing what they are trying to tell us? I say this because their one liners do not mean much, or contribute much in the discussions/threads.

    Yes, many a times, I am confused by their 'one liner' posts.
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