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    Arrow Is Lin Dan participating in the 2009 China Professional League?

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    Greetings,

    My question: Is Lin Dan participating in the 2009 China Professional League?

    The league is commencing tomorrow, Wednesday December 16. If Lin Dan is participating, I feel so sorry for him.

    Just 2 days' ago, on Sunday December 13, Lin Dan was defeated by an unheralded Korean player, Choi Ho-jin, at the East Asian Games held in Hong Kong.

    Lin Dan has let known to everyone that currently he is tired, very tired. But it looks like nobody is listening to him; not his sponsors, nor the games organisers, nor his fans.

    So, how can we expect him to perform well at this China Professional League?
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    I dont think LD has a choice as pointed by LYB in this article(in Chinese):

    http://news.ifeng.com/sports/zonghe/..._1475124.shtml

    LYB said that LD has to play regardless of the fatigue building up. This is understandable, this is the first year in which China Badminton League is relaunched. Although it looks good on advertisement(league with most prize money, highest level of play,good return in investment for sponsors etc etc), its operation still suffers alot due to lack of financial support. I think each club needs to pay a registration fee of RMB 2,000,000(IIRC) to play in the league. This does not include the players pay cheque and travel expenses. See below for more(again in Chinese). Most sponsors/industry are holding their money back at this moment as they are still not sure if this is a worthwhile investment amidst the recent economy crisis period.

    http://sports.people.com.cn/GB/22155.../10491277.html

    Some clubs have to rent out their star players because they don't have enough sponsors. Liao Ning Badminton Club has decided to withdraw from the league and rent their star players like YY and DJ to other richer clubs(possibly qing dao). FYI, BeiJing Club barely made the cut last minute because they manage to get sponsorship last minute from the logging industry.

    LD's club(the bayi/81 club) lacks star players, so LD is the trump card for his club to get a handsome sponsorship. So I don't think LD has a choice or couldn't shoulder the responsibility, really...as I don't think the big companies would wanna sponsor his team(or event this ongoing league) if he decides to walk away.

    I am not worry about LD not performing at all. The "superdan" nickname is not there for nothing. If you visit the badmintonfreak.com, there are avid fans who suggest that he will win any titles by just turning out in the event/finals. You are worrying too much, chris.
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    Majyun,

    Do the articles list out the names of top players confirmed to participate in the league?

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    Yes it does(only some of them). There are 14 teams competing in the A league. The lists are just too long(have both men and women players), so I will omit the less "active" players in the international circuit(apology to them).

    Guang Zhou
    Men: Wang Zheng Ming, Choong Tan Fook(MAS)
    Women: Yu Yang, Xie Xing Fang, Zhang Jie Wen

    BeiJing:
    MEn: Du PengYu
    Women: Wang YiHaN (iirc)

    Qing Dao:
    Men: Fu Hai Feng, Zheng Bo, Zhao Wen Long
    Women: Du Jing, Ma Jin

    Ba Yi:
    Men: Lin Dan, He Han Bin
    Women: Zhao Ting Ting, Pan Pan, Jiang Yan Jiao

    (I will retract my comment on BaYi is short of star players, my mistake and apologies)

    Jiang Su:
    Men: Chen Jin, Cai Yun
    Women: Lu Lan

    Zhe Jiang:
    Women: Zhang Ya Wen, Wang Lin

    Guang Dong:
    Women: Xia Jing Yun

    There's about it I think. Hope didnt miss many.

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    So, there's no lee chong wei or lee yong dae as well

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    so
    we will saw less and less china player in ss?
    i want wyh and wl!
    when i watching lcw vs pg in the ss master final,i heard gillian clark comment on lcw appearence in 10 ss compare to lindan and say lcw done very much to promote badminton
    anyway,hope others country can win more ss titles

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    so
    we will saw less and less china player in ss?
    i want wyh and wl!
    when i watching lcw vs pg in the ss master final,i heard gillian clark comment on lcw appearence in 10 ss compare to lindan and say lcw done very much to promote badminton
    anyway,hope others country can win more ss titles
    I agree with your 3rd sentence!!

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    Arrow I don't think LD has a choice

    Quote Originally Posted by majyun View Post

    I dont think LD has a choice as pointed by LYB in this article (in Chinese):

    http://news.ifeng.com/sports/zonghe/..._1475124.shtml

    LYB said that LD has to play regardless of the fatigue building up. This is understandable, this is the first year in which China Badminton League is relaunched. Although it looks good on advertisement(league with most prize money, highest level of play, good return in investment for sponsors etc etc), its operation still suffers a lot due to lack of financial support. I think each club needs to pay a registration fee of RMB 2,000,000(IIRC) to play in the league. This does not include the players pay cheque and travel expenses. See below for more(again in Chinese). Most sponsors/industry are holding their money back at this moment as they are still not sure if this is a worthwhile investment amidst the recent economy crisis period.

    http://sports.people.com.cn/GB/22155.../10491277.html

    Some clubs have to rent out their star players because they don't have enough sponsors. Liao Ning Badminton Club has decided to withdraw from the league and rent their star players like YY and DJ to other richer clubs(possibly qing dao). FYI, BeiJing Club barely made the cut last minute because they manage to get sponsorship last minute from the logging industry.

    LD's club(the bayi/81 club) lacks star players, so LD is the trump card for his club to get a handsome sponsorship. So I don't think LD has a choice or couldn't shoulder the responsibility, really...as I don't think the big companies would wanna sponsor his team(or event this ongoing league) if he decides to walk away.

    I am not worry about LD not performing at all. The "superdan" nickname is not there for nothing. If you visit the badmintonfreak.com, there are avid fans who suggest that he will win any titles by just turning out in the event/finals. You are worrying too much, chris.

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    Thank you for the links majyun.

    Some months ago, LYB said that he wasn't keen on the China Professional League for his players. But I couldn't find that link now. LYB said something like with the league, his players would be tired out. But from your links, we find that LYB has changed his mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Greetings,

    My question: Is Lin Dan participating in the 2009 China Professional League?

    The league is commencing tomorrow, Wednesday December 16. If Lin Dan is participating, I feel so sorry for him.

    Just 2 days' ago, on Sunday December 13, Lin Dan was defeated by an unheralded Korean player, Choi Ho-jin, at the East Asian Games held in Hong Kong.

    Lin Dan has let known to everyone that currently he is tired, very tired. But it looks like nobody is listening to him; not his sponsors, nor the games organisers, nor his fans.

    So, how can we expect him to perform well at this China Professional League?
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    "The 26-year-old Lin said he was tired after a long season."

    u can relax chris, LD said he was just tired, not very tired.
    Last edited by cooler; 12-15-2009 at 12:26 PM.

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    Arrow Expecting Lin Dan to perform well at this China Professional League?

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    "The 26-year-old Lin said he was tired after a long season."


    u can relax chris, LD said he was just tired, not very tired.

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    So, you are expecting Lin Dan to perform well at this China Professional League?
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    Quote Originally Posted by majyun View Post
    Yes it does(only some of them). There are 14 teams competing in the A league. The lists are just too long(have both men and women players), so I will omit the less "active" players in the international circuit(apology to them).

    Guang Zhou
    Men: Wang Zheng Ming, Choong Tan Fook(MAS)
    Women: Yu Yang, Xie Xing Fang, Zhang Jie Wen

    BeiJing:
    MEn: Du PengYu
    Women: Wang YiHaN (iirc)

    Qing Dao:
    Men: Fu Hai Feng, Zheng Bo, Zhao Wen Long
    Women: Du Jing, Ma Jin

    Ba Yi:
    Men: Lin Dan, He Han Bin
    Women: Zhao Ting Ting, Pan Pan, Jiang Yan Jiao

    (I will retract my comment on BaYi is short of star players, my mistake and apologies)

    Jiang Su:
    Men: Chen Jin, Cai Yun
    Women: Lu Lan

    Zhe Jiang:
    Women: Zhang Ya Wen, Wang Lin

    Guang Dong:
    Women: Xia Jing Yun

    There's about it I think. Hope didnt miss many.
    How come BCL and chen long aren't competing ? That's abit unfair if try don't and LD and CJ have to compete

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    Arrow Iím tired, tired, tired, tired. Really, really, really tired

    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    u can relax chris, LD said he was just tired, not very tired.

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    cooler, if Lin Dan was just tired, not very tired, he would not have said it this way:
    I’m tired, tired, tired, tired. Really, really, really tired”.

    Just received this article from Jakarta Globe.

    December 17, 2009

    Beijing. Olympic and world champion Lin “Super” Dan has been ordered to play in this week’s Chinese club qualifiers despite complaining of exhaustion.

    I’m tired, tired, tired, tired. Really, really, really tired,” Lin told the China News Service after losing to little-known South Korean Choi Ho-jin on Sunday.

    For full article, click on the link below:
    http://thejakartaglobe.com/sports/su...cape-on/347920
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    well
    before this incident
    the world most well known/famous for best stamina should be lcw and ld
    but looks like both of them have problem to sustain the match duration lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    cooler, if Lin Dan was just tired, not very tired, he would not have said it this way:
    I’m tired, tired, tired, tired. Really, really, really tired”.
    ...
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    i can imagine after LD plays in this week's qualifying round for his club, Lin Dan could be saying this:
    I’m tired, tired, tired, tired, tired, tired, tired, tired. Really, really, really, really, really, really tired,”
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    Arrow Misbun said Lee Chong Wei would take at least three weeks to recover

    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post

    well
    before this incident
    the world most well known/famous for best stamina should be lcw and ld
    but looks like both of them have problem to sustain the match duration lately?

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    Different problems though;
    Lee Chong Wei has injury problem.
    Lin Dan has exhaustion problem.

    Last week, Jakarta Globe has this article on LCW's injury problem.

    December 9, 2009

    Vientiane, Laos. World No. 1 Lee Chong Wei withdrew from Malaysiaís Southeast Asian Games squad on his coachís orders because of injury concerns, a report said on Wednesday.

    Leeís absence, a major blow to the teamís hopes at the SEA Games, comes after Malaysia claimed three titles at badmintonís season-ending BWF World Super Series Masters Finals, including Leeís win in the menís singles final on Sunday.

    ďI told him [Lee] to rest upon advice from a private doctor in Kuala Lumpur due to his nagging thigh injury,Ē Misbun Sidek, the national singles coach, was quoted as saying by Malaysiaís New Straits Times newspaper.

    Misbun said Lee would take at least three weeks to recover.

    For full article, click on the link below:
    http://thejakartaglobe.com/badminton...-injury/346522
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    cooler, if Lin Dan was just tired, not very tired, he would not have said it this way:
    I’m tired, tired, tired, tired. Really, really, really tired”.

    Just received this article from Jakarta Globe.

    December 17, 2009

    Beijing. Olympic and world champion Lin “Super” Dan has been ordered to play in this week’s Chinese club qualifiers despite complaining of exhaustion.

    I’m tired, tired, tired, tired. Really, really, really tired,” Lin told the China News Service after losing to little-known South Korean Choi Ho-jin on Sunday.

    For full article, click on the link below:
    http://thejakartaglobe.com/sports/su...cape-on/347920
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    hahahaha, yes, u had miss counted number of 'tired' before, that's why Now i wonder how many 'tired' was said by LD and how many 'tired' was added by the journalist, or maybe tired out from the many interviews with media people.
    Last edited by cooler; 12-16-2009 at 05:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    i can imagine after LD plays in this week's qualifying round for his club, Lin Dan could be saying this:
    ďIím tired, tired, tired, tired, tired, tired, tired, tired. Really, really, really, really, really, really tired
    it's kinda silly to have players of LD caliber to play in qualifying round.

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