The use and abuse of BadmintonCentral

[MetalOrange]

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Post #60 says:

So we are talking about trolls?

IMHO, if one feeds the trolls, the trolls become happier, not angrier. We might disagree on this.
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uhm...are you tweaking my brain? don't, please.

[limsy]

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OK... Please repeat the 2nd and the 3rd questions. Or perhaps, one question at a time.
Sometimes when so many issues are raised, we can become disoriented.
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read post number 52 again in this thread
and read the post that i mention
are my post consider as :'As such the above reply to OTB is to put it mildly, not suitable and bordering on being personal' like what pemuda say?
i do hope others bcer, or even better,mod or kwun to define this
are asking question to any bcer in this forum is consider 'As is to put it mildly, not suitable and bordering on being personal'

[chris-ccc]

read post number 52 again in this thread
and read the post that i mention
are my post consider as :'As such the above reply to OTB is to put it mildly, not suitable and bordering on being personal' like what pemuda say?
i do hope others bcer, or even better,mod or kwun to define this
are asking question to any bcer in this forum is consider 'As is to put it mildly, not suitable and bordering on being personal'

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OK... So, the questions are located at Post #52.

Currently, a Badminton session is awaiting for me to attend.
Will look at those questions later.

Meanwhile, perhaps our BCers can comment/answer on those 2 questions.

BTW, any comments/answers are just our opinions.
No one here can say "I am right, you are wrong".
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[limsy]

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BTW, any comments/answers are just our opinions.
No one here can say "I am right, you are wrong".
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yes
thats why i want mod/kwun to define this
i want to avoid such a problem in future
because i don know everything about badminton
thats why i ask like:
how old will be the top 4 md pair in 2010?
or
what is the squad of ina in ajc/wjc+olympic youth 2010?
i didnt face any problem before when asking question
and i dont know if asking question is a problem until that post
is that the U in that sentence cause the problem?

[ctjcad]

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i do hope others bcer, or even better,mod or kwun to define this
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yes
thats why i want mod/kwun to define this
i want to avoid such a problem in future
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..what kind of definition are you looking for from kwun/mods??
a. serious definition
b. funny/LOL/ROFL definition
c. puzzling definition
d. sarcastic definition
e. Merriam-Webster.com definition
f. all of the above (oh, wait, is that even possible???)..

[limsy]

..what kind of definition are you looking for from kwun/mods??
a. serious definition
b. funny/LOL/ROFL definition
c. puzzling definition
d. sarcastic definition
e. Merriam-Webster.com definition
f. all of the above (oh, wait, is that even possible???)..

a define that will help me get out of trouble next time
if mod/kwun say,yes,asking question to others member will put it mildly, not suitable and bordering on being personal
then i wont ask any question in this entire forum again(even like,anyone have xyz tournament software link)
if kwun/mod say,no,its ok to ask
then i continue to ask.
i am seriously asking this and hope for the answer from kwun/mod
because i had asked hundreds(if not thousands) of question in this forum
if there is any problem，then i am the source of problem
oh ya,does anyone face this kind of problem when asking a question like:
to limsy
do u know why xyz withdrawed from efg tournament?

[george@chongwei]

And the talking still goes on!

[chris-ccc]

read post number 52 again in this thread
and read the post that i mention
are my post consider as :'As such the above reply to OTB is to put it mildly, not suitable and bordering on being personal' like what pemuda say?
i do hope others bcer, or even better,mod or kwun to define this
are asking question to any bcer in this forum is consider 'As is to put it mildly, not suitable and bordering on being personal'

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Below is Post #52;

any comment on post number 45?
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...t=51417&page=3
1. we cant use i,you when posting?
2. we cannot ask question to any member in this forum?
3. is asking question = disagree?

hope all member that involve in the discussion in this thread help me
thanks
i wont ask any question again or using i/you if this is proven negatif

OK, let's look at one question at a time.

Qu.1. we cant use i,you when posting?
Answer 1. Of course we can use 'I' and 'You" when posting. But try to use it less, so that we talk about the topic, and not about ourselves. Let's look at this example below.

(a) If Mr.A says to Mr.B; "Lin Dan is a good player". Here, Mr.A wants to talk about Lin Dan. It's all about Lin Dan.

(b) If Mr.A says to Mr.B; "Do you agree with me that Lin Dan is a good player?". Here, Mr.A wants to find out what Mr.B thinks about Lin Dan. It's not about Lin Dan anymore. It's now about Mr.B's thoughts.

Qu.2. we cannot ask question to any member in this forum?
Answer 2. Of course we can ask question to any member in this forum. Don't see why we are not allowed to ask questions.

Qu.3. is asking question = disagree?
Answer 3. No. Asking a question does not mean that we disagree. Don't see why by asking a question, we are expressing disagreement.
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[limsy]

thanks chris
so,will my 'reply to OTB is to put it mildly, not suitable and bordering on being personal'?

[chris-ccc]

thanks chris
so,will my 'reply to OTB is to put it mildly, not suitable and bordering on being personal'?

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BCers here are always expressing our own opinions. There is nothing wrong with that. We are free to give our opinions.

However, before we submit our posts, we need to check:
Is my post/comment having anything to do with the title of the thread?

Examples:
In an equipment thread, BCers should be talking about equipment.
In a coaching thread, BCers should be talking about techniques/training/tactics.
In a injuries thread, BCers should be talking about injuries.
In a Lin Dan thread, BCers should be talking about Lin Dan.

We get disorientated if we don't check what thread we are in.
Just look at some Lee Chong Wei threads. BCers are often talking about Lin Dan there. It seems that the thread is no longer about LCW, but about LD.

Also look at this thread:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=79488

It started with "i give a yell, and most of the time, it goes in, the last last last game i played, the guy i was playing with says i was cheating because it *distracted* him".

Somehow, that thread has become a discussion of 'ALL' yelling/shouting.
* Yelling - to add more power into a shot
* Yelling - to communicate with partners in a game of Doubles
* Yelling - when under tremendous stress to reach the shuttlecock
* Yelling - when in agony or pain
* etc, etc, ...
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[Gollum]

Also look at this thread:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=79488

It started with "i give a yell, and most of the time, it goes in, the last last last game i played, the guy i was playing with says i was cheating because it *distracted* him".

Somehow, that thread has become a discussion of 'ALL' yelling/shouting.
* Yelling - to add more power into a shot
* Yelling - to communicate with partners in a game of Doubles
* Yelling - when under tremendous stress to reach the shuttlecock
* Yelling - when in agony or pain
* etc, etc, ....

This is getting silly. Am I the only one who finds this constant proselytising tiresome? "Play nice, children, and whatever you do, be sure never to wander off topic."

As it happens, in that thread, the so-called "off topic" discussion actually turned out to be precisely on-topic, as the original poster clarified.

It's perfectly natural for a thread to change course. What starts as a specific question will often expand into a more general discussion. The general discussion is usually more interesting and educational than the specific query.

These are, after all, discussion boards. Nobody condones rampant personal attacks, but that good sentiment does not excuse bossing people around in the name of peacekeeping.

Tolerance is a two-way street, you know.

[madbad]

This is getting silly. Am I the only one who finds this constant proselytising tiresome? "Play nice, children, and whatever you do, be sure never to wander off topic."

As it happens, in that thread, the so-called "off topic" discussion actually turned out to be precisely on-topic, as the original poster clarified.

It's perfectly natural for a thread to change course. What starts as a specific question will often expand into a more general discussion. The general discussion is usually more interesting and educational than the specific query.

These are, after all, discussion boards. Nobody condones rampant personal attacks, but that good sentiment does not excuse bossing people around in the name of peacekeeping.

Tolerance is a two-way street, you know.

Seconded. I think some common sense should prevail

[chris-ccc]

This is getting silly. Am I the only one who finds this constant proselytising tiresome? "Play nice, children, and whatever you do, be sure never to wander off topic."

As it happens, in that thread, the so-called "off topic" discussion actually turned out to be precisely on-topic, as the original poster clarified.

It's perfectly natural for a thread to change course. What starts as a specific question will often expand into a more general discussion. The general discussion is usually more interesting and educational than the specific query.

These are, after all, discussion boards. Nobody condones rampant personal attacks, but that good sentiment does not excuse bossing people around in the name of peacekeeping.

Tolerance is a two-way street, you know.

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Disagree.

Let's digress a bit more;
If a BCer who wants to talk about a Malaysian player (by starting a particular Malaysian player's thread), but later finds that BCers are starting to talk more about other players (in his/her thread), surely we can suggest to them that they are in the wrong thread.

If not talking on-topic, then start your own topic. Why change the the specific topic?

This is just my opinion.
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[chris-ccc]

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Currently, our regular BCer, Loh, is disappointed with some responses in his thread:
Singapore Also Can

Recently some BCers want to comment on what Singapore cannot do.

IMHO, why disturb Loh's thread. Why not start your on thread to talk about what Singapore cannot do?
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[chris-ccc]

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And I have created a new thread for this topic:
Is grunting, yelling and screaming during play considered not good for Badminton?

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=79553
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[Gollum]

If not talking on-topic, then start your own topic. Why change the the specific topic?

It's a matter of how you organise information, and inevitably this requires judgement. A little common sense goes a long way.

At one extreme, we allow any discussion in any thread. Taken to its logical conclusion, we might as well have one giant mega-thread containing 1.3 million posts.

At the other extreme, we take a "topic-Nazi" approach. Taken to its logical conclusion, we should only allow "singleton" threads of one post. Then no one can ever go off-topic.

Clearly, both of these are stupid ways to organise information. Instead, we take a pragmatic approach which disallows blatant topic-hijacking, while remaining tolerant of topics expanding during the course of a discussion.

That's how conversation works.

[chris-ccc]

It's a matter of how you organise information, and inevitably this requires judgement. A little common sense goes a long way.

At one extreme, we allow any discussion in any thread. Taken to its logical conclusion, we might as well have one giant mega-thread containing 1.3 million posts.

At the other extreme, we take a "topic-Nazi" approach. Taken to its logical conclusion, we should only allow "singleton" threads of one post. Then no one can ever go off-topic.

Clearly, both of these are stupid ways to organise information. Instead, we take a pragmatic approach which disallows blatant topic-hijacking, while remaining tolerant of topics expanding during the course of a discussion.

That's how conversation works.

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It's nothing personal. Hope to read your comments in this thread;
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=79553
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