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    if our current batch of players in bam under cba training now for 3 months

    i wonder who comes back first

    or would anyone of them last that long

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    if our current batch of players in bam under cba training now for 3 months

    i wonder who comes back first

    or would anyone of them last that long
    Not sure they can stand the training or not even with given 1 week or 1 month

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    would they even survive basic army training ?? too much pamper for them ~~

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    No need to put under army training to test if they have the mental and physical toughness to survive, just let them go back under Datuk Misbun and see if they can survive the vomiting for 6 month with his training regime of 12 h/day, multi-thousand superfast shuttlecock drill, > 10k skipping + numerous fitness workout under NSC finess trainer Rosdie + wake up early at 6.00 am every coaching day even before Datuk Misbun arrives and finish his subuh prayer. Not to mention no clubbing and parties.

    That's why Chan Kwong Beng being yelled and kicked out by him as he lack the commitment and toughness to strive better under Datuk Misbun. Datuk Misbun training moduls are damn tough and even his wife, Datin Latifah cried when she sees how he trained Misbun Ramdhan. Datuk LCW self disicipline is extra-ordinary.

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    I do think that Misbun places too much emphasis on LCW, and that the head coach should share the blame. Like in school, we need strict teachers to ensure that all students pass up their homework.

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    Well, the so-called elite back-up or whatever players u call it have yet again failed to reach QF at the India IC 2010.

    Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainuddin lost to Derek Wong Zi Liang in R32
    Misbun Ramdan Misbun lost to Anup Sridhar in R32
    Goh Soon Huat lost to Alamsyah Yunus in R16
    Mohd Arif Abdul Latif lost to Tommy Sugiarto (easily 9 and 11) in R16
    Lim Fang Yang lost to Arvind Bhat in R16

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    Well, the so-called elite back-up or whatever players u call it have yet again failed to reach QF at the India IC 2010.

    Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainuddin lost to Derek Wong Zi Liang in R32
    Misbun Ramdan Misbun lost to Anup Sridhar in R32
    Goh Soon Huat lost to Alamsyah Yunus in R16
    Mohd Arif Abdul Latif lost to Tommy Sugiarto (easily 9 and 11) in R16
    Lim Fang Yang lost to Arvind Bhat in R16
    Iskandar - 19 y.o. Lost to Derek easily. If no results by 21/22, forget about him.
    Misbun Ramdan Misbun - No faith in Misbun's son. Not training normally.
    Goh Soon Huat - 20 y.o? Not bad but not good either. Average.
    Arif - 21 y.o Lazy. Goodbye.
    Lim Fang Yang - 20 y.o? About the same as Goh Soon Huat but he did give Arvind Bhat a good fight. Don't see much of him, would give him a few more chances before he hits 22.

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    wow...can see fans of bam elite and backup players serious in their criticism

    by 21 or 22 yrs old, gone?

    and when did these numbers become the 'cut-off' age? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    wow...can see fans of bam elite and backup players serious in their criticism

    by 21 or 22 yrs old, gone?

    and when did these numbers become the 'cut-off' age? lol
    I just forgot that this is MS and not MD sorry should be 24 yrs old. MD they should achieve results at 23 latest (if they work hard after OG2012 I have no doubt that they will shine)

    Also, no result it means that you have not beaten anyone, or even stamp yourself as a person to watch out for (must be consistent too, I would say our MD has shown results but still not on a consistent basis yet, when they reach 22 or 23 (cut-off age) they should achieve this)
    I don't know how to explain what I think in my head

    CPS plays in 2 events though. I would prefer him to focus on XD than MD simply because MAS has never shined in XD! And CPS/GLY is a pair that I would rate 'has taken the first step to future success"
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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    I just forgot that this is MS and not MD sorry should be 24 yrs old. MD they should achieve results at 23 latest (if they work hard after OG2012 I have no doubt that they will shine)

    Also, no result it means that you have not beaten anyone, or even stamp yourself as a person to watch out for (must be consistent too, I would say our MD has shown results but still not on a consistent basis yet, when they reach 22 or 23 (cut-off age) they should achieve this)
    I don't know how to explain what I think in my head

    CPS plays in 2 events though. I would prefer him to focus on XD than MD simply because MAS has never shined in XD! And CPS/GLY is a pair that I would rate 'has taken the first step to future success"
    24 yrs old for singles? hmmm..

    if that's true maybe its too competitive nowadays

    and i really feel sorry for them

    but then looking at what i know,

    going high performance, its best at 22 onwards
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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    wow...can see fans of bam elite and backup players serious in their criticism

    by 21 or 22 yrs old, gone?

    and when did these numbers become the 'cut-off' age? lol
    They are still very young... not yet 30yrs old... still can run up n down, left n right, jump here jump there inside the court... but that's pretty much everything they can do... isn't it? still BOLEH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    They are still very young... not yet 30yrs old... still can run up n down, left n right, jump here jump there inside the court... but that's pretty much everything they can do... isn't it? still BOLEH?
    yes, this i still agree with you..boleh!

    age when high performance is reached for badminton is 20-25 years (tudor o. bompa - theory and mythology of training)

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    http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...927&sec=sports

    Shuttlers aim to make amends for Asiad flop

    PETALING JAYA: Singles shuttler Liew Daren and the men’s pair of Mak Hee Chun-Tan Wee Kiong will be out to make amends for their uninspiring outing in the Guangzhou Asian Games when they compete in the Copenhagen Masters starting today.

    Daren is in a tough Group A with top Dane Peter-Gade Christensen and Dutchman Dicky Palyama. He plays against Christensen today and takes on Palyama the next day.

    Dane Jan Jorgensen is not defending the title and the home hope will be on Christensen to lived up to his billing as the highest ranked player by landing a record 10th Copenhagen Masters title.

    At the Guangzhou Asiad last month, Daren was a letdown in the third singles match of a quarter-final tie against Thailand.

    Malaysia had to depend on the back-up shuttlers to turn the tables on Thailand after Lee Chong Wei crashed to an unexpected defeat by Boonsak Ponsana in the first singles match.

    However, Hee Chun-Wee Kiong and Daren were a bundle of nerves and failed to deliver the points. Daren, who played the decisive fifth match of the tie was beaten in straight games by a younger Thai opponent, S. Avihingsanon.

    “The defeat was a bitter experience for me. I could have emerged as the hero but I failed to take the chances. I will try my best to win one match (in Copenhagen),
    ” said Daren, who enjoyed a fairy tale run in the Malaysia Open last year.

    He battled his way through the qualifying rounds to reach the quarter-finals before losing to Christensen. Daren conceded that the chances of beating the Dane on his home ground is slim.

    Joining Daren and Hee Chun-Wee Kiong in the annual invitational event is veteran Wong Choong Hann, who has a better chance of making the final from a Group B comprising Boonsak and Dane Hans Kristian Vittinghus.

    Only four pairs are competing in the men’s doubles and Hee Chun-Wee Kiong, a second-round casualty in the individyal competition of the Guangzhou Asiad, have a difficult task to beat the world No. 1 Mathias Boe-Carsten Mogensen of Denmark to qualify for the final.

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    Haha, MHC/TWK up against World No.1. They have lost to this pair 2 times before, let's hope they can defeat another world no.1... but really, they must control their nerves lah. Liew Daren, I think if he wants to win one match, he must hope that he can beat Dicky again. Peter Gade is too strong for him.

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    Courtesy of The Star :

    Tuesday December 28, 2010

    Communication breakdown puts back-up pairs out of home Open

    By LIM TEIK HUAT

    KUALA LUMPUR: A lack of proper communication has resulted in all four national back-up men’s pairs under the charge of Tan Kim Her not getting the chance to feature in the Malaysian Open next month.
    The entries for Mak Hee Chun-Tan Wee Kiong, Chan Peng Soon-Lim Khim Wah, Goh Wei Shem-Teo Kok Siang and Ow Yao Han-Chooi Kah Ming were not submitted for the men’s doubles competition of the home Open scheduled for Jan 18-23 at the Putra Stadium in Bukit Jalil.
    Hee Chun-Wee Kiong, Peng Soon-Khim Wah and Wei Shem-Kok Siang would have been eligible to play in the main draw of the season-opening Super Series tournament even if the event attracted the world’s top ranked pairs as all of them are ranked inside the top 30.
    Instead, they will be resigned to playing only the mixed doubles.
    The Badminton Association of Malaysia’s (BAM) entries for the men’s doubles are world No. 2 Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong, Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Ong Soon Hock, Hoon Thien How-Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif, Vountus Indra Mawan-Mohd Lufti Zaim Abdul Khalid and Nelson Heg Wei Kiat-Teo Ee Yi.
    Two independent Malaysian pairs – Gan Teik Chai-Tan Bin Shen and Chan Chong Ming-Lee Wan Wah – are also in the fray.
    World No. 1 Mathias Boe-Carsten Mogensen of Denmark, South Korea’s Lee Yong-dae-Jung Jae-sung and China’s Fu Haifeng-Cai Yun are not among the entries and it would have been a good chance for the back-up pairs to stamp their mark in their own backyard.
    The BAM general manager, Kenny Goh, said yesterday: “I find it strange that the mixed doubles entries were submitted but not the men’s doubles.
    “It only came to our attention after the deadline for entries. The coach admitted that he made a mistake in not submitting their names.”
    To be fair to Kim Her, who is now taking a break from coaching, he was with the players at the Hong Kong Open when entries closed on Dec 14.
    The incident has only highlighted the need for a better communication set-up between the coaching department and administrative side of the BAM now that different coaches are in charge of different groups.

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    Oh dear. Just because TKH was in the Hong Kong Open BAM doesn't know how to submit the names of no doubt the 3 pairs who are carrying our hopes of the future. One word : Inefficient.

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    In BAM, they are all Generals and no soldiers. Hence, the screw up. Still Boleh..? Courtesy from Jimbo.
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