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    lol
    so they dont know badminton at all
    know money only

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    24 yrs old for singles? hmmm..

    if that's true maybe its too competitive nowadays

    and i really feel sorry for them

    but then looking at what i know,

    going high performance, its best at 22 onwards
    Kenichi Tago reached AE Final at the age of 20, beating top players along the way, not to mention giving our LCW a scare in the Final. Not many 20 year olds can do it, except for TH..But, that is not a reason for BAM to compromise too much as to when the elite back up players getting a breakthrough, probably if they reached 23 with no promising results (e.g. TCS), they should start grooming the next batch of 17-18 year olds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugsy View Post
    Kenichi Tago reached AE Final at the age of 20, beating top players along the way, not to mention giving our LCW a scare in the Final. Not many 20 year olds can do it, except for TH..But, that is not a reason for BAM to compromise too much as to when the elite back up players getting a breakthrough, probably if they reached 23 with no promising results (e.g. TCS), they should start grooming the next batch of 17-18 year olds
    no, bam must not see the last of the elite back up underperform before gromming the younger batch.

    they should groom all at the same time after all there are smaller tournaments everywhere.

    and this goes down further to the grass root level as well.

    when we built our house we also need to build a toilet, hope you know what i mean

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    They should send Liew Daren to international challenge. His ability should let him get a decent result there, like final. Like what INA did to Tommy Sugiarto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    They should send Liew Daren to international challenge. His ability should let him get a decent result there, like final. Like what INA did to Tommy Sugiarto.
    Agree. There's no reason to send him to SS or other big events... he should start winning those satellite and GP tournaments... LD still BOLEH?

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    BAM will end up sending only LCW to SS tournaments, the rest of MS end up GP Gold & Satellite. Drastic measure no doubt, but it one way of propping up their (back up) rankings

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    no, bam must not see the last of the elite back up underperform before gromming the younger batch.

    they should groom all at the same time after all there are smaller tournaments everywhere.

    and this goes down further to the grass root level as well.

    when we built our house we also need to build a toilet, hope you know what i mean
    Agree but there should be different targets for everybody ( coaches not spared) and budget allows that. One coaches should not handle too many of the elite shuttlers, house-cleaning is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    They should send Liew Daren to international challenge. His ability should let him get a decent result there, like final. Like what INA did to Tommy Sugiarto.
    Tommy become independent player already..so he can choose what tournament he want to attend..

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    Quote Originally Posted by miksss View Post
    Tommy become independent player already..so he can choose what tournament he want to attend..
    Looks like Tommy made the right decision.
    The elite-backup rankings are so poor, and they get slaughtered in 1st round/qualifying of SS, not good way to earn points. They should be sent to more international challenges first.

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    Liew Daren is injury-prone.

    Actually, I was quite surprised (and impressed) by his racquet skills. But maybe lack of hard work, commitment... because if he put in a lot of effort he will DEFINITELY, go far. He has very good shots and skills of his own but sometimes he just goes into 'error mode' and makes error after error after error. If he can start putting in effort now, it's still not too late for Liew Daren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugsy View Post
    Agree but there should be different targets for everybody ( coaches not spared) and budget allows that. One coaches should not handle too many of the elite shuttlers, house-cleaning is needed.
    certainly, let the new bam secretay do his job

    and hopefully the house is clean

    if not, we also continue our discussion lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    Liew Daren is injury-prone.

    Actually, I was quite surprised (and impressed) by his racquet skills. But maybe lack of hard work, commitment... because if he put in a lot of effort he will DEFINITELY, go far. He has very good shots and skills of his own but sometimes he just goes into 'error mode' and makes error after error after error. If he can start putting in effort now, it's still not too late for Liew Daren.
    When a player commits a series of unforced errors, more often than not the problem lies with his physical and mental fitness. The more common would be the former. This showed how under trained and unstable game our back-up shuttlers has.

    Skill wise they are fine, but they need the endurance to execute whatever skills they have in the first place.
    Last edited by flite; 12-28-2010 at 11:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flite View Post
    When a player commits a series of unforced errors, more often than not the problem lies with his physical and mental fitness.
    Unforces and forces errors are the two common errors that any player usually perform. No offense against Hafiz Hashim, but i consider him one of the Malaysia players that when enters into error mode, he can make so many errors especially unforced errors that can be equivalent to his opponent winning point gained, so frustrating.

    In badminton, unforces errors occurs primarliy due to the players lacks of patient and resilience. In the other hand, it is contributed by mentality strength to boost the self confidence, thus making errors even when retrieveing the simpliest shots.

    While forced errors occurs primarily due to physicality aspects either:

    - the opponent is able to play better, controlling the paste at his will and outmanouevering him most of the time, therefore making difficult shots to retrieve, thus errors occured or
    - the lack of physical fitness to keep the momentum of the game and eventually makes errors

    Hafiz skills is one of the best, but these above two problem that kill his own game whenever he plays against other world class player. Similarly, like our back-up, these two qualities that seems to be lack that causes them unable to establish themselves further in the international arena.

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    Friday January 7, 2011
    BAM go ahead with tournament plans for their shuttlers

    PETALING JAYA : The absence of Misbun Sidek did not prevent the Badminton Association of Malaysia ’s ( BAM ) coaching and training committee from going ahead with a detailed plan for Lee Chong Wei .

    The committee met yesterday and it was agreed that the world No. 1 will take part in a total of 14 international tournaments this year . And the targets are to peak in three events – All - England ( March 8 - 13 , Birmingham ) , world championships ( Aug 8 - 14 , London ) and the SEA Games ( Nov 11 - 25 , Indonesia) .

    Singles coordinator Rashid Sidek presented the plans for Chong Wei and those for the other elite shuttlers — Mohd Hafiz Hashim , Chan Kwong Beng , Tan Chun Seang , Chong Wei Feng and Liew Daren .

    The committee chairman, Ng Chin Chai, said that it was business as usual for the coaches.

    “ We did not bring up the matter on Misbun today. The BAM exco will meet on Jan 12 and on the agenda is his resignation as a coach in the national team . Our president will make some announcements then, ” he said .

    “ Today, it ’s all about our periodisation programme for our shuttlers, ” said Chin Chai .

    “ It was proposed for Chong Wei to compete in 17 tournaments but three were dropped . The top pair , Koo Kien Keat - Tan Boon Heong , will also compete in 14 tournaments .

    “ We also decided that the back- up shuttlers will compete in at least eight tournaments . The exposure will facilitate our efforts to bridge the gap between the back- up players and the seniors. ”

    Besides Rashid , the meeting was attended by high performance director Datuk James Selvaraj and six other coordinators — Rexy Mainaky ( men ’s elite doubles ) , Tan Kim Her ( men ’ s back - up doubles ) , Hendrawan ( men ’ s back - up singles) , Wong Tat Meng ( women ’s elite and back- up singles ) , Pang Cheh Chang ( women ’s elite and back- up doubles ) and Jeremy Gan ( mixed doubles ) .

    Chin Chai added that they had identified those to gear up for qualifcation for the 2012 London Olympics .

    The BAM players in the Olympic programme are Chong Wei , Hafiz ( men ’s singles ); Wong Mew Choo, Lydia Cheah, Julia Wong ( women ’s singles ); Koo Kien Keat - Tan Boon Heong , Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif - Hoon Thien How , Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari - Ong Soon Hock, Lim Khim Wah - Chan Peng Soon , Mak Hee Chun- Tan Wee Kiong and Goh Wei Shem- Teo Kok Siang ( men ’s doubles ); Wong Pei Tty - Chin Eei Hui , Ng Hui Lin - Ng Hui Ern ( women’ s doubles ); and Peng Soon - Goh Liu Ying, Ong Jiao Guo- Sabrina Chong ( mixed doubles ) .

    Yesterday , the committee also introduced a performance merit system to keep close tabs on the national coaches.

    Chin Chai also announced that four players – Lim Yu Sheng , Zairul Anuar Zainuddin , Nairul Suhada Abdul Latif and Nurhani Abdul Aziz – have been dropped from their programme.

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    Hopefully our elite backup players can start beating those players from Thailand, Vietnam, India, Philippines and Nigeria... boleh?

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    lim yu sheng, only 19 this year has been dropped by bam

    anyone has any idea why?

    there must be a serious reason, for bam won't simply do that:d

    he has the height, speed and power

    and misbun once said he could become a very good player.

    that was dec 2009 when he lost to ramdan in 3 close sets.

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    Out of the 4 dropped, 2 are 18 or 19. 3 of them,I didnt even realize they're in BAM. Nurhani supposed to join in 2010 in WS. Nairul Suhada is from WD, well she had it coming.

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