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    nairul, i saw her play just few months back, she is tall but being pretty

    and probably beauty conscious, i guess there ain't much concentration all along :d

    lim yu sheng was the few picked up by misbun for training in 2008 (i think),

    together with ramdan, syawal ...

    he was the runner up of the national grand prix final under 18 boys singles

    and he lost to goh giap chin in 3 close sets but he injured his arm during the 1 set.

    but few months later he beat goh quite easily.

    to choose between these 2, i would choose lim but i maybe wrong:d

    well, it is a waste and opportunity lost if he doesn't continue training

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    i just found out why lim yu sheng was dropped.

    recently the coaches done a review on the players,

    sad to say in the report, he has little quality to move on

    let's hope at least he tries doubles:d

    i think if bam does this regularly the players around these ages will be filtered

    and we can expect quality players in no time

    also hope this can be a feedback to them

    what kind of players they are looking at from the grass root level

    and inform those coaches down there:d

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    The elite is doing pretty ok in mo11. As long as the proceed to keep up with the good determination to win. Important for them to review the statistics in tournamentsoftware.com. Need more offensive and net wins. Pretty obvious or critical in winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by extremenanopowe View Post
    The elite is doing pretty ok in mo11. As long as the proceed to keep up with the good determination to win. Important for them to review the statistics in tournamentsoftware.com. Need more offensive and net wins. Pretty obvious or critical in winning.
    Well, if the attitude of the coaches and players are that it's okay to lose in home grounds, in the first or second qualification round; no wonder only Lee Chong Wei can be relied upon.

    Chong Wei Feng has done nothing over the past year to show that he deserves a place in the elite back-up. He cannot say that he hasn't been given chances to prove himself as he participated in 1 IC, 1 GP, 4 GPG, and 4 SS tourneys.

    Let's review his results in 2010:
    China SS - Lost to Chen Jin in R32 (11-21, 11-21)
    MAS IC - Lost to Huang Chao (younger than him) in R16 (17-21, 14-21)
    INA GPG - Lost to Febriyan Irvannaldy in R64 (also a junior player from INA) 14-21, 21-9, 16-21
    TPE GPG - Lost to Mohd Hafiz Hashim in R16 12-21, 20-22
    MAS GPG - Lost to Andre Kurniawan Tedjono in R16 9-21, 9-21
    BAC - Lost to Kenichi Tago in R64 15-21, 11-21
    AE - Lost to Christian Lind Thomsen in Qualifying Round 2 15-21, 20-22
    GER GP - Lost to Marc Zweibler in R64 20-22, 11-21
    MAS SS - Lost to Boonsak Ponsana in QF 14-21, 9-21
    KOR SS - Lost to Peter Gade in R32 19-21, 17-21

    Overall Record: W11 L10, with 5 first-round and 1 other qualifying round exits from 10 tourneys!
    Best Performance: QF in MAS SS

    Daren Liew:
    HKG SS - Lost to Wen Kai in Qualifying First Round 15-21, 13-21
    DEN SS - Lost to Hu Yun in R16 12-21, 15-21
    INA GPG - Lost to Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka in SF 13-21, 11-21
    TPE GPG - Lost in R32 to Wong Choong Hann 16-21, 21-23
    MAC GPG - Lost to Wong Wing Ki in R16 12-21, 21-19, 18-21
    MAS GPG - Lost to Lee Chong Wei in R32 16-21, 14-21
    MAS SS - Lost to Tan Chun Seang in Qualifying Second Round 18-21, 21-14, 21-23
    KOR SS - Lost to Jang Young Soo in Qualifying First Round 21-10, 17-21, 12-21

    Overall Record: W12 L8, with 3 qualifying rounds exits.
    Best Performance: SF in INA GPG

    Chan Kwong Beng:
    DEN SS - Lost to Emil Vind in Qualifying Second Round 11-21, 14-21
    INA GPG - Lost to Adnan Fauzi in R64 21-9, 12-21, 17-21
    VIE GP - Lost to Tian Houwei in R64 21-18, 12-21, 13-21
    TPE GPG - Lost to Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka in R16 17-21, 17-21
    MAC GPG - Lost to Hsu Jen-hao in R64 19-21, 21-17, 16-21
    MAS GPG - Lost to Koichi Saeiki in R64 21-18, 15-21, 17-21
    BAC - Lost to Wang Zhengming in R64 21-23, 9-21
    GER GP - Lost to Mohd Hafiz Hashim in R16 7-21, 13-21
    MAS SS - Lost to Chetan Anand in R32 19-21, 16-21

    Overall Record: W7 L9, with 6 first-round and 1 additional qualifying round exits in 9 tourneys! He progressed to the second round only in 2 tourneys!

    So, do anyone of them deserve to be in the so-called elite back-up?

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    Thanks BadMania. These results are really embarrassing

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    If these results are considered "okay", then, seriously, the formation of the CTC will be necessary, with each coach expected to write reports of the players under his/her responsibilities and be able to explain why such embarassing results are "reasonable" or "not reasonable" for the players so-called to be the "elite back-up" of BAM!

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    If the international results are "embarrasing", can the domestic results save these players? Let's review them too:

    Chong Wei Feng:
    Perak Open - Lost in SF to Mohd Hafiz Hashim 18-21, 21-15, 21-10
    Kedah Open - Lost in R16 to Lim Fang Yang 13-21, 20-22

    Overall Record: W2 L2

    Daren Liew:
    Perak Open - Lost to Mohd Hafiz Hashim in QF 18-21, 10-21
    Kedah Open - Lost to Chan Kwong Beng in SF 18-21, 21-11, 20-22
    National Circuit GP Final - Won 2 matches in Group Stage, Lost to Chan Kwong Beng 16-21, 20-22

    Overall Record: W5 L3

    Chan Kwong Beng:
    Perak Open - Lost to Kuan Kam Chung in R16 19-21, 21-12, 19-21
    Kedah Open - WINNER, beating Goh Soon Huat in the Final 21-16, 15-21, 21-18
    National Circuit GP Final - Won 3 matches in Group Stage, Lost to Lee Chong Wei in SF 10-21, 7-21

    Overall Record: W7 L2

    Do note that both LCW and Hafiz withdrew from the Kedah Open.

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    Lets face it. Almost winning is still considered a lost. Even if you lost 20-22. The only one with an acceptable result in MO is CKB because he was expected to get demolished. And looking at badMania's records(Thank you, badMania! I can't believe you took the time to do this even though you're an INA fan!) I must say that this batch definitely has no more hope...

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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    Lets face it. Almost winning is still considered a lost. Even if you lost 20-22. The only one with an acceptable result in MO is CKB because he was expected to get demolished. And looking at badMania's records(Thank you, badMania! I can't believe you took the time to do this even though you're an INA fan!) I must say that this batch definitely has no more hope...
    Agree... this batch is really hopeless... can't even produce some decent results playing at home turf... what else can I say? tak BOLEH lah

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Agree... this batch is really hopeless... can't even produce some decent results playing at home turf... what else can I say? tak BOLEH lah
    Ya, just like my location... and I will keep it this way until someone else besides LCW wins a title (But in the end most likely will be our KKK/TBH win a title)

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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    Lets face it. Almost winning is still considered a lost. Even if you lost 20-22. The only one with an acceptable result in MO is CKB because he was expected to get demolished. And looking at badMania's records(Thank you, badMania! I can't believe you took the time to do this even though you're an INA fan!) I must say that this batch definitely has no more hope...
    Well, I am curious as to what's their overall records for the year 2010 and it wasn't that difficult to dig those information out. The results were....very very shocking and disappointing obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    Well, I am curious as to what's their overall records for the year 2010 and it wasn't that difficult to dig those information out. The results were....very very shocking and disappointing obviously.
    Posting the results and finding it are another thing. It is time-consuming to type out the results and post it. I appreciate your effort.

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    Compare the three musketeers' results with that of Mohd Hafiz Hashim who got so much criticisms by fellow MAS fans:

    Mohd Hafiz Hashim
    HKG SS - Lost to Wang Zhengming in R32 18-21, 12-21
    JPN SS - Lost to Kenichi Tago in R32 21-16, 13-21, 12-21
    WC - Lost to Lee Chong Wei in R32 16-21, 16-21
    TPE GPG - Lost to Nguyen Tien-Minh in QF 19-21, 11-21
    MAS GPG - Lost to Wong Choong Hann in QF 21-19, 17-21, 11-21
    SIN SS - Lost to Dicky Palyama in R16 8-21, 13-21
    IND GPG - Lost to Gurusaidutt RMV in QF 18-21, 15-16 Retired
    Thomas Cup - Lost to to Shoji Sato 10-21, 21-14, 18-21
    BAC - Lost to Boonsak Ponsana in QF 9-21, 21-17, 10-21
    AE SS - Lost to Lin Dan in R16 14-21, 18-21
    GER GP - Lost to Chen Long in SF 15-21, 19-21
    MAS SS - Lost to Hsieh Yu-Hsing in R32 19-21, 21-14, 14-21

    Overall Record: W20 L12, with first-round exits in 3 SS tourneys.
    Best Performance: SF in GER GP and QF in BAC, IND, MAS, and TPE GPG

    Needless to say, Hafiz's results are way much better than the rest and like it or not, he's still going to be depended upon as MAS's 2nd MD for team-events!

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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    Ya, just like my location... and I will keep it this way until someone else besides LCW wins a title (But in the end most likely will be our KKK/TBH win a title)

    Just dont understand what went wrong. Same thing happens in squash. We have the world no.1 in these sports and yet the rest who has easy access to spar and train together dont seem to be able to catch up.

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    Yes, what happen to the elite back up?

    Coaches write reports to ctc and what are they gonna do with the report?

    Make a decision on what to do with the players or help them?

    Well, a lot of us may say give chance lah ... While some may not,

    Then how to help them or what kind of help to give them ?

    Anyone has any idea other than asking them to quit?

    Where are the roots of these problems?

    Btw, thanks to badmania for the score

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    any considerations on injuries? How long it takes to recover?

    How do they compare with other big countries?

    Who is volunteering to replace them? Any hands? lol.
    Last edited by extremenanopowe; 01-20-2011 at 08:39 AM.

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    bunch of TAK BOLEH players... look at CHN "rojak" MD pair just won the Msia Open SS...

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