elite back up/back up player 2010

[ctjcad]

i'm sensing our Pemuda is gonna do another mini OpEd...

[limsy]

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...cle/index_html

"We are very concerned with their (Hafiz and Beng Hong's) performances. However, Hendrawan will continue training them until June due to the Thomas Cup," said Zolkples.

"BAM is to review their performance after that and the onus is on these players to safeguard their careers in the lead-up to the Thomas Cup.

"Zakry-Fairuz have also not been pulling their weight and dropping them from the All England and Swiss Open is a wake-up call.
"There are also several other players like Razif Latif and Ong Soon Hock who will be closely monitored as they have been around for some time."

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ms
of course there is improvement comparing 2009 mo and 2010 mo
but is the improvement enough to be in the 2nd class?no
be it tan chun seang,liew daren,chan kwong beng,chong wei feng or arif
if u cant/dont want take the amount of training that lcw can,it is imposible to reach lcw level.
if tan chun seang is under misbun from now on and willing to take the amount of training lcw can,then he will be the 3rd ms for malaysia in tc
as for the 4th slot,its between ckb and cwf,with ckb have a higher chance

ws
both julia and wmc need some good rest before come out and play again.
if i am the man in charge,i will let them have enough rest before playing tournament again(their 1st tournament should be bac in india),at the same time,send lydia to more tournament.by the time uber cup start,lydia will be the 1st single and wmc is the 2nd and julia wong is 3rd.
it is relatively better for malaysia that wmc and julia wong in 2nd and 3rd without write off lydia chance to create upset in the 1st ws.
that will increase ours uber cup team chance to reach semi final
the 4th ws would be tee jing yi.

md
lufti,ong jian guo should concentrate in xd
goh jian hao should patner chooi kah ming while lau win hwi patner pang zeng lin.
razif is in the danger of say good bye to bam
i believe either mak/tan or chan/lim will win the national grand prix final next week

wd
goh liu ying should concentrate in xd
woon/vivian should be our 2nd wd for uber cup but field woon/ng is a wise choice too as vivian lack in experience(which she should been send to more tournament)

xd
mak should not play xd,rexy should let razif to patner ng hui lin
or
ong jian guo patner ng hui lin(this might be one of the top 2 pair for mas)
and razif patner sabrina
the progress of malaysia xd is notable and they will be strong enough for the sudirman cup next year if they have good exposure(dont give excuse as no fund)

[Pemuda]

At one point, she wanted to quit badminton and focus on studies....
wanted to study in the UK just like two of her brothers but i dont know why she stayed in the end.... Looks like she's made the right decision....

Honestly, I think she should just focus on her studies. She is going nowhere with her badminton. Skills wise, she is below average.

[Pemuda]

after watching the MO 2010,there are a few things that strike me.

1) we are still very much depending on our Established Players like LCW, WMC
CEH/WPT. The only exception is the Mens Doubles and the Mixed Doubles in which we have a relatively young group.

2) We failed to develop our young talent as well as other countries.We need to recognise this as our young players are not in par with their so called peers who are their same level during the junior days.

3) As seen, we are not lack of talents but lack of know how and technics. Our current coaches are not committed enough to understand and study the weakness and the needs of the players.

4) Looking at the sizes and build of our players.Its look like our players are under nourished and they are not built like atheletics.

Hopefully BAM will recognise some of these pointers and do something about these.

You mean, you only found out we sucks after watching the MO?

Our so-called established shuttlers are questionable. LCW, despite back to back titles still have to prove that he can deliver on the big stage. WMC, she is already past her sell by date. Watching her play is a painful exercise. WPT/CEH, they cant do it against the top pairs.

Our juniors, back ups etc are all just not good enough. Yes, the whole lot of them. And the MO proved it.

Come TC, I doubt we can even make the semis. As for our UC team, the best we can hope for is that they make the score respectable. Our UC team is going to be an ideal punching bag. The only consolation for our women badminton is that some of our women shuttlers are pretty cute looking.

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http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...253&sec=sports

“In Malaysia, it is a different challenge altogether. Everyone wants immediate results. But, as a coach, I am trying to take one step at a time,” said Hendrawan.

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http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...253&sec=sports

“In Malaysia, it is a different challenge altogether. Everyone wants immediate results. But, as a coach, I am trying to take one step at a time,” said Hendrawan.

Off with Rashid Sidek, we should make Hendrawan the chief coach.
For the backup players who are progressing, I only feel as if Tan Chun Seang or perhaps Chong Wei Feng are progressing......very slowly. The rest of the players are inconsistent or actually went downhill.

[limsy]

Off with Rashid Sidek, we should make Hendrawan the chief coach.
For the backup players who are progressing, I only feel as if Tan Chun Seang or perhaps Chong Wei Feng are progressing......very slowly. The rest of the players are inconsistent or actually went downhill.

yup
agree with the 1st sentence
hendrawan should be the chief
u will see more about their performance in german open/ae

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yup
agree with the 1st sentence
hendrawan should be the chief
u will see more about their performance in german open/ae

Got backup players going to the AE? I thought only LCW and HH...

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Got backup players going to the AE? I thought only LCW and HH...

except liew daren and arif
all the back up will go

[limsy]

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...cle/index_html

well
i surprise that the coach think mak hee chun didnt have that 'scary' characteristic
hehe
i always think he is another kkk on court with his eyes
anyway
looking forward to see them made to semis of gp gold by beaten the 2009 wjc md champion and chong/lee

[jon_91]

Hee Chun-Wee Kiong must learn to be a 'scary pair'

2010/02/01

By K.M. Boopathyboopathy@nst.com.my

THEY have the talent but lack the character.
Because of this, Mak Hee Chun-Tan Wee Kiong, touted as Malaysia's next top men's doubles pair, have struggle in the past year.

National back-up doubles coach Pang Cheh Chang said there is no doubting the talent and potential of Hee Chun, 20, and Wee Kiong, 21.

But they don't have the character to stare opponents in the eyes and impose an intimidating game which has made players like Lee Yong Dae of South Korea and even Koo Kien Keat exceptional.

Though the duo have yet to reach the final of an international tournament, Cheh Chang will let them fight for a place in the Thomas Cup squad by including them for the German Open on March 2-7.

Hee Chun-Wee Kiong are vying with older back-up pairs Ong Soon Hock-Hoon Thien How who are aged 25 and 24 respectively and Chan Peng Soon-Lim Khim Wah (aged 23 and 21). At least one pair will be included in the Thomas Cup squad.
"They are very talented but that alone is not going to make them a world class pair. They lack the character to be successful and these are the qualities I want to see in them," sad Cheh Chang.

"Hee Chun-Wee Kiong must have the self belief to overcome the odds when they face a top 10 combination. It's no point winning a tournament where there are no top pairs. I want them to beat at least one world class pair in the Germn Open.

"The selection will be open but Hee Chun-Wee Kiong must show something exceptional in tournaments if they want to overtake Soon Hock-Thien How and Peng Soon-Khim Wah."

Hee Chun said his combination with Wee Kiong has improved and they want to impress in the German Open and achieve a dream debut in the Thomas Cup.

"Our results have not been impressive last year where we reached the semi-finals of the Malaysia Open but we haven't beaten any top 10 pairs yet.

"We are behind Soon Hock-Thien How and Peng Soon-Khim Wah in terms of experience but if we can make the Thomas Cup squad, it will make a big difference.

"We rely on our speed and power but we are still not top of our game. We have to be more explosive and also take our chances."

Hee Chun-Wee Kiong had a fairly good start in their first assignment abroad where they reached the quarter-finals in the German Open last year but failed to keep up the momentum after that.

Perseverance is Hee Chun's main virtue and this quality has earned him success in the World and Asian junior events despite partnering Teo Kok Siang, a singles player, in 2008.


A good start in the recent Malaysia Open where they beat veterans Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah should have given them some confidence.

The next test will be the National Grand Prix Finals in Johor Baru, where they will meet Tan Fook-Wan Wah, Peng Soon-Khim Wah and world junior Chooi Kah Ming-Ow Yao Han in group stage.

Wins over the three pairs will give them another boost before the German Open.

[jasonmarc]

"Hee Chun-Wee Kiong must have the self belief to overcome the odds when they face a top 10 combination. It's no point winning a tournament where there are no top pairs. I want them to beat at least one world class pair in the Germn Open.

Even their coach Pang Cheh Chang share the same view with me..........same goes to KKK/TBH....

[eaglehelang]

I thought Vountus Indra is Sabah's Kadazan? but I think there are lacking of coaches, facilities and competition in Borneo.

The closest things Borneo had was James Chua...

Anyway, most malays, indian, kadazan & iban are more interested in football.

I hope one day our tomas cub team can made up of all the races in msia..

I think better discuss it in this thread, that thread for Fuzzy, haha.

If you mean players from Sabah, Sarawak :
Florah Ng, (Tee JY's batch) is from Sabah. Vountus Indra I'm not sure, he's very low profile guy.

Beryno Wong(left BAM in stime in 2008 ) & Amelia Anselley are from Sabah - they won titles in recent Brunei Open. Beryno currently trains Sabah youth team or sthing like that and still plays. Last yr sponsors sponsored him for some tourneys in Europe.

In recent years, it seems that BA from Penang, Kedah, Perak, Selangor seem to be successful in churning out the best national players. The 13 y.o Indian MS (R. Sathiestharan), WS (A.K. Bhirentha) I mentioned to you are under Selangor. They won all their matches in 2009 Inter State, instrumental in helping Sgor clinch the title. The boy trains under an Indonesian coach.

[SibugiChai]

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...cle/index_html

well
i surprise that the coach think mak hee chun didnt have that 'scary' characteristic
hehe
i always think he is another kkk on court with his eyes
anyway
looking forward to see them made to semis of gp gold by beaten the 2009 wjc md champion and chong/lee

I think what he meant by scary if CONFIDENCE, the confidence that show in the face... Some might call it LC!

KKK is an example of LCLY player... LD too... LYB too...

To be confidence is very important and to show the confidence in the face is equally important especially to scare your opponents.

I have no experience in international games but in social games, a confidence player usually get beat a no-confidence player easily if their skill gap isnt that big.

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http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N...cle/index_html

THERE is plenty of potential in the men's back-up doubles but they have yet to pull their weight despite getting enough exposure on the international stage for more than three years.

well
the writer is so cute by claiming something not true
as he know
only osh,hth and cps had more than 3 year in bam

and he claim lkw,mhc and twk get enough+more than 3 years exposure as well
this is only the 2nd year mhc in bam
and this is only the 3rd year lkw and twk in bam
more then 3 years in term of what?
playing wjc in 2007 count in too?

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well
i collected my data from tournament software(common sense that lower ranking tournament usualy dont use ts in 2006)

cps participate 29 tournament from 2006 to 2010 january
and 19 of them is within SEA
obviously he didnt get much attention of coach before 2009
but then,despite lack of exposure in tournament
he did a few achievement

md with lim khim wah(only 5 international tournament as a pair to date)
semi finalist in vietnam gp 2008
runner up in vietnam ic 2008
winner of
thailand gp gold 2009
mas ic 2009

xd with goh liu ying
semi finalist in
proton ic 2009
chinese taipei gp gold 2009
thailand gp gold 2009
finalist in
vietnam gp

lucky that cps get what he deserve now
and he should break into world ranking top 30 with gly after swiss open
looking good for a place in wc,asian games and cwg