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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    a look at the conceptual picture of th's facility can tell what's was on his mind before he started this project.

    if well run, the future major winner(s) will be from here - possibly in 2020..unless there are more magicians down there to speed up the results..
    yes, magican can bring glory to any kind of a coach. Have u coached a magician before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    yes, magican can bring glory to any kind of a coach. Have u coached a magician before?
    well..you as the first potential one haven't come for my training yet..

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    Arrow The hall was designed by M. Ridwan Kamil

    Quote Originally Posted by ants View Post

    If i were TH i would do it differently. But setting up a court/hall is a must. The hall looks a little weird. Dont know who is the designer.

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    The hall was designed by M. Ridwan Kamil of Urbane Indonesia, an architecture consulting company in Bandung, West Java, Taufik Hidayat Arena is scheduled to be an asymmetric building with eight badminton courts and two futsal courts. Construction is scheduled to begin in March or April 2010.

    The arena’s unusual look was intended to relect his personality, Taufik said.

    "I love being different, and the building’s design is different from other badminton stadiums," he said.

    When complete, the arena will also include 10 rooms which could be used to house as many as 20 shuttlers.
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    we can't see the layout but the perspective view is very nice and looks expensive, maybe along the way, th will extend at the backyard if 8 courts are not enough..

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    What is "fulsal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    The hall was designed by M. Ridwan Kamil of Urbane Indonesia, an architecture consulting company in Bandung, West Java, Taufik Hidayat Arena is scheduled to be an asymmetric building with eight badminton courts and two futsal courts. Construction is scheduled to begin in March or April 2010.

    The arena’s unusual look was intended to relect his personality, Taufik said.

    "I love being different, and the building’s design is different from other badminton stadiums," he said.

    When complete, the arena will also include 10 rooms which could be used to house as many as 20 shuttlers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    What is "fulsal"?
    lol.... futsal? mini soccer! smaller artificial grass pitch 25m x 15m, 3-5 aside with a goal keeper... never heard of that in your country?

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    Arrow futsal is indoor mini soccer

    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post

    What is "fulsal"?

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    As pBmMalaysia posted; futsal is indoor mini soccer.

    Perhaps in the USA, futsal is not popular. But in Australia, Asia, Europe, etc... futsal is quite popular.

    If I were Taufik, I would not have included futsal. This is because Badminton is popular enough in Indonesia for his hall to be used/hired out almost all hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    As pBmMalaysia posted; futsal is indoor mini soccer.

    Perhaps in the USA, futsal is not popular. But in Australia, Asia, Europe, etc... futsal is quite popular.

    If I were Taufik, I would not have included futsal. This is because Badminton is popular enough in Indonesia for his hall to be used/hired out almost all hours.
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    for $$$ revenue, in our place which i am managing, 39 badminton courts & 6 futsal pitches the ratio of revenue is 45:55! maybe its starting to hit indonesia or th wants the players running after the ball or he loves futsal!

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    I think Taufik likes to play football... if not mistaken his 1st love was football but he got more talent in badminton

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    I didn't know that! I have only seen real soccer, indoor soccer (doesn't have "artificial grass"), and beach soccer.

    I guess Taufik wants to play himself.

    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    lol.... futsal? mini soccer! smaller artificial grass pitch 25m x 15m, 3-5 aside with a goal keeper... never heard of that in your country?

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    Arrow Indoor Soccer causes more injuries than Badminton

    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post

    I didn't know that! I have only seen real soccer, indoor soccer (doesn't have "artificial grass"), and beach soccer.

    I guess Taufik wants to play himself.

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    One thing for sure. Indoor Soccer causes more injuries than Badminton.

    Hope that Taufik would play Indoor Soccer with more experienced players (that is, with those who know how not to get into dangerous situation/encounter).

    I have been a very active Soccer player before (Indoor/Outdoor). We usually find inexperienced players can cause more enjuries to others. More experienced players know how to prevent dangerous play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    One thing for sure. Indoor Soccer causes more injuries than Badminton.

    Hope that Taufik would play Indoor Soccer with more experienced players (that is, with those who know how not to get into dangerous situation/encounter).

    I have been a very active Soccer player before (Indoor/Outdoor). We usually find inexperienced players can cause more enjuries to others. More experienced players know how to prevent dangerous play.
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    true, very true i have posted a true story on futsal accident:
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=81187

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    Taufik Hidayat plans to discover new badminton talent
    JAKARTA, Feb 15 — Maverick shuttler Taufik Hidayat has again chosen to go it alone by opting to help fund a new badminton arena in Jakarta after his disillusion at how the sport is run in Indonesia.

    Former world and Olympic champion, Hidayat, 28, controversially defected from the Indonesian national team in early 2009 and he plans to use his profile to help find the next generation of talent.

    “Sports in Indonesia aren1t being supported by the government,” Hidayat told Reuters. “The rewards you get as a young player don1t match the effort you put in.”

    “I want to be different from other athletes, if not better, and I want to make something good out of my profile and help the younger players have opportunities.”

    Hidayat said his own private funds would help to pay for the running costs of the eight-court Taufik Hidayat Arena, with building due to start in March.

    “Rejuvenation of younger players should be the job of the Indonesian Badminton Association,” he said. “But local competitions will help identify new talent. I want to use the arena to hold local competitions.”

    “It is 6,600 metres squared and each metre squared costs 1.5 million rupiah (RM547), so you could just imagine the cost.”

    With the majority of tournaments not being broadcast on free-to-air television in Indonesia, finding sponsorship has been difficult for local players which is why Hidayat has felt the need to step in and help.

    “The Indonesian brands aren1t interested in sports people, only movie stars, because they can get more exposure in the media,” he said.

    Hidayat, who has no immediate plans for retirement, said he does not regret his split with the Indonesian Badminton Association (PBSI).

    “As with any association, there will always be rows, and you can find people in PBSI that aren1t in tune with my vision. I achieved so many things for PBSI, and I felt burdened by expectations.” — Reuters

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    Thumbs up To unearth fresh talent in Indonesia

    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna View Post

    Exactly, cooler... A club helping Taufik with operational/consultancy assitance with not much in return... seems like a one way relationship... It won't work.

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    Taufik and his helpers should be thinking of how they can contribute to Indonesian Badminton with this new Badminton School.

    I thought this was Taufik's objective - to unearth fresh talent in Indonesia.

    If Taufik were to think that his school is just another business that he is investing in (to make money), then his objective for fresh talent in Indonesia would be lost.

    Just go back when TH was young and starting at Badminton. Were his coaches/clubs thinking of making money with TH back then?

    Somehow, many BCers' comments have been always related to money.

    IMHO, money isn't everything. Just look at China; their association was showing no interest in the SS Masters Finals since this event was introduced - China is not interested in the event with the biggest prize monies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Taufik and his helpers should be thinking of how they can contribute to Indonesian Badminton with this new Badminton School.

    I thought this was Taufik's objective - to unearth fresh talent in Indonesia.

    If Taufik were to think that his school is just another business that he is investing in (to make money), then his objective for fresh talent in Indonesia would be lost.

    Just go back when TH was young and starting at Badminton. Were his coaches/clubs thinking of making money with TH back then?

    Somehow, many BCers' comments have been always related to money.

    IMHO, money isn't everything. Just look at China; their association was showing no interest in the SS Masters Finals since this event was introduced - China is not interested in the event with the biggest prize monies.
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    making money legally is not a sin c-ccc.
    why one person has to burden entire country's task, for free??
    of course, the option of sainthood is still open to anybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    Taufik Hidayat plans to discover new badminton talent

    With the majority of tournaments not being broadcast on free-to-air television in Indonesia, finding sponsorship has been difficult for local players which is why Hidayat has felt the need to step in and help.

    “The Indonesian brands aren't interested in sports people, only movie stars, because they can get more exposure in the media,” he said.
    — Reuters
    Yup, that's the fact... Being a movie star (celebrity) is much more interesting job than an athlete for INA young peoples due to massive attention by free-to-air local TV.
    Looks like TH knows very well about low popularity condition of most athletes in Indonesia.

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    Arrow We shall see how this operation is driven

    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post

    making money legally is not a sin c-ccc.
    why does one person has to burden entire country's task, for free??
    of course, the option of sainthood is still open to anybody.

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    We shall see how this operation is driven:
    To make money for Taufik, or to make better players for Indonesia, or both.
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