tan kim her and rexy issue

**OneToughBirdie** · 02-09-2010, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by press100

Kalau hati sudah suka

Oleh Mohd Hilmie Hussin

2010/02/09

I just read this article from Harian Metro today. Sorry, it is in Malay. Hopefully somebody can translate it for others. Basically the article said that Ganga Rao is the one who really want TKH to come back to Malaysia. Unfortunately, BAM have no moneys to pay for the salary for TKH until now. The hope are only on sponsorships (don't know who) but the salary will be paid until Thomas Cup only. After Thomas Cup, don't know yet. Some reports said that TKH's salary is about RM 200,000 per year but Ganga Rao denied that. As usual as always, all the doubts & questions will be answered in the BAM's meeting this week bla bla bla...The funny thing is, if BAM do not have the money, why they want to bring TKH in?
(Sorry for my broken english, hehe)

Rob Peter to pay Paul...don't pay LCW, WMC and WPT/CEH for SSF winnings, then can pay TKH la...

As for sponsorship paying for TKH, err...what businessperson wants to pay for something with no promised return, you scratch my back and I scratch yours later la...

**eaglehelang** · 02-09-2010, 10:44 AM

The one Press100 posted was from Harian Metro. Some of the google translation is really hilarious though. After TC in May, Ganga said they will re-apply to NSC abt TKH's salary, if rejected, some BAM "projects" will be shelved/terminated. When asked is it Rexy getting the axe, Ganga immediately said no.

The Berita Harian article quotes Ganga Rao as saying there's enuf funds. - "Kami ada dana bayar gaji Kim Her" So, now is confusing

http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_Ne...054719/Article

Uncle OTB, 2008 SS FInals winnings is for LCW, KKK/TBH, WPT/CEH. 2009 one according to Harian Metro is BWF themself pay.

**limsy** · 02-09-2010, 10:46 AM

lol
my opinion is that
they dont want to let tkh fly here and there and threatening mas md

the era of ljj,hjm,jjs and lyd when tkh is there
and the england 1st ss title

hehe,maybe
they want to say:we might be stupid in 2005 and 2008
but we wont always stupid,so we sign him in 2010

anyway
signing tkh is not stupid
but the way they sign tkh is stupid
hehe
and i will repeat repeat and repeat this again

**limsy** · 02-09-2010, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie

Rob Peter to pay Paul...don't pay LCW, WMC and WPT/CEH for SSF winnings, then can pay TKH la...

As for sponsorship paying for TKH, err...what businessperson wants to pay for something with no promised return, you scratch my back and I scratch yours later la...

lol
do they already receive the money of ssmf 2008?

**press100** · 02-09-2010, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia

berita harian from press100 (thank you)

translation from google:

''GANGA RAO acknowledge there is still money to pay future national badminton doubles coach, Tan Kim Her, when he too would like to employ a former national player.

He said the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) will manage the fixed salary and not depend on the National Sports Council until the end of the Thomas Cup, May future.

"Questions Kim Her employment there in our planning. Do not promote issues that will channel financial resources in," said BAM was Honorary Secretary.

Clearly, all sponsors are currently in the stage of consideration, but make sure he will achieve positive results. Although when Bakit confidence will get a new sponsor, Ganga will appeal to the MSN to employ her after the end of Kim Thomas Cup later.

Ganga in that denied local press reports quoting sources from the state association said Kim Her salary reached RM200, 000 a year.

"No, where there is high, the amount is not reasonable," said Ganga who denied the claim.

"We have ways to overcome this problem. If the sponsorship is not achieved what we wanted, there may be a 'project' that BAM will be terminated."

Questioned the possibility of 'projects' which will be terminated is referred to doubles chief coach Rexy Mainaky, Ganga quickly denied it.

Reported, all doubts will be answered in the Coaching and Training Committee meeting, scheduled this week, which is chaired BAM president Datuk Nadzmi Salleh own.''

lol have a good time with it, it's better than in malay!

Thank you for translation...

**pBmMalaysia** · 02-09-2010, 10:50 AM

originally posted by eaglehelang

translation from google again:

http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_Ne...054719/Article

''We have funds to pay salaries Kim Her'

Overall dimaklum be appropriate at the time: Ganga

"Everything will be informed at the appropriate time."

That strong statement of Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM), Kehormatnya Secretary, Ganga Rao on the issue that is constantly hovering about Tan Kim Her appointment as national coach - his salary payments - when sports body is facing a budget deficit.''

happy reading!

**pBmMalaysia** · 02-09-2010, 10:57 AM

sorry the full version from eaglehelang

translation from google:

http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_Ne...054719/Article

'' 'We have funds to pay salaries Kim Her'
Overall dimaklum be appropriate at the time: Ganga

"Everything will be informed at the appropriate time."

That strong statement of Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM), Kehormatnya Secretary, Ganga Rao on the issue that is constantly hovering about Tan Kim Her appointment as national coach - his salary payments - when sports body is facing a budget deficit.

While not revealing the source of any financial or sponsorship which will fund the salary Kim Her, Ganga said, it has no action to get the resources to accommodate the payment of salary that's doubles coach.

"BAM is already taking steps (to pay wages Kim Her)," Ganga said yesterday. "BAM is not just remain silent and expect contributions from MSN (National Sports Council), which has channeled funds to many associations.

"BAM have financial resources but I can not speak more than that ... enough to state who will be informed at the appropriate time, "said Kim who is responsible for appointing her alone without reference to the Committee Coaching and Training BAM and MSN.

Time is possible that this Thursday, when BAM will provide coaching and training committee meeting - the date that eventually can be set following the 'schedule' Ganga outside the country - that would be chaired by president Datuk Nadzmi Salleh, who will determine the restructuring of existing coach.''

happy reading but keep an open mind...

**OneToughBirdie** · 02-09-2010, 11:24 AM

[quote=eaglehelang;1365387]Uncle OTB, 2008 SS FInals winnings is for LCW, KKK/TBH, WPT/CEH. 2009 one according to Harian Metro is BWF themself pay

Actually, I meant to poke fun but thanks for your reply, so have they been paid the 2008 SSF IOU yet?

Originally Posted by limsy

lol
my opinion is that
they dont want to let tkh fly here and there and threatening mas md

the era of ljj,hjm,jjs and lyd when tkh is there
and the england 1st ss title

hehe,maybe
they want to say:we might be stupid in 2005 and 2008
but we wont always stupid,so we sign him in 2010

anyway
signing tkh is not stupid
but the way they sign tkh is stupid
hehe
and i will repeat repeat and repeat this again

Great strategy buying out TKH cos he threaten MAS MD...TKH only coach, the players have to play, so why not buy out the players that threaten MAS MD and then MS, WS....next BAM should buy out LYB and the Thing, and that would solve LD and buy out the entire CHN WD team...LOL

Originally Posted by limsy

lol
do they already receive the money of ssmf 2008?

Is that a question or you saying they got paid already, sorry my english not too good to understand your english lah

....BTW, I noticed you 'vanished from posting in the forum for a few days, glad you are back and posting fast and furious...I am really worried PbMalaysia catching up to you...LOL

**ctjcad** · 02-09-2010, 01:45 PM

From what i've read and understood, this is a classic case of BAM's revolving door of treating their hired coach(es), past, present and future. Haven't we seen this before with Li Mao? Morten Frost?...maybe Rexy is next?..

I can see the logic of BAM's goal of securing TKH away other baddy powerhouses, in case Rexy bails. While at the same time they want to collar TKH in preparation for the upcoming T&UC (e.g. to assist so Rexy has more time to concentrate on the main doubles players), if it is their goal this yr.

But i concur with OTB, coaches can only go so far. It's the players themselves who, at the end, will determine the outcome. BAM could hire Tang Xinhu away from CHN, but will the players succeed?

To me, once again, politicking (by certain individuals) is being used by BAM to achieve their goal. Am i surprised? Not one bit. Some say it's all business, but imo, there seems to be a big lack of respect for the coaches they've hired. Was it done w/the right timing? Well, we all can see it has generated a wide spectrum of PR news.
We will see what happens in the T&UC. Should M'sia fail in their goal (whatever that may be), i'm sure finger pointing will be flying all over the place. And who else will be in the spot light if not most likely Rexy. Like Pemuda already chimed in, Rexy is probably just counting his time in M'sia National Team, waiting for that time for him to get the axe. I certainly hope that won't happen, but looking at BAM's past history, i wouldn't be surprised at all if that were to happen, once again.

Btw, I'm just curious, is Yap Kim Hock behind all this as well?

As we all know, we haven't seen him for a quite a while.

Originally Posted by limsy

hmm
tell me
is this an article or it is a news?
then that answer will answered ur question

..nokh88's link is an article, but more of an OpEd article (has a bit of biased tone). Is it a news article, i'd say only 25% of the content..

**Pemuda** · 02-09-2010, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia

anybody here knows how much rexy is been paid and tkh will be paid?

Dude, thats personal la. We must respect that. Or else why dont you put up your Form J here for us to have a look see.

**OneToughBirdie** · 02-10-2010, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Pemuda

Dude, thats personal la. We must respect that. Or else why dont you put up your Form J here for us to have a look see.

Maybe Coach pBmMalaysia wanna compare his pay to TKH and RM, just to make sure coach himself is not underpaid or use TKH/RM pay as bargaining tools

**yan_brot** · 02-10-2010, 12:54 AM

rexyyyy...!!! go back to indonesiaaa..pelatnas needs ya..
and ask Hendrawan too...

hihiiihihiiiii....

**pBmMalaysia** · 02-10-2010, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by Pemuda

Dude, thats personal la. We must respect that. Or else why dont you put up your Form J here for us to have a look see.

tax payers money? and you never ask for my form j, did you?

Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie

Maybe Coach pBmMalaysia wanna compare his pay to TKH and RM, just to make sure coach himself is not underpaid or use TKH/RM pay as bargaining tools

good thinking, lad but you can only be no.2....

**SibugiChai** · 02-10-2010, 03:25 AM

after Hafiz Hashim won AE2003, i remember hearing Hafiz Hashim father said on TV3 "coaches only 10% & player 90%...."

after that HH went down hill? Izzit Missbun wanna let the 90% go by itself?

**pBmMalaysia** · 02-10-2010, 03:36 AM

his coach still keeps a 10% that's why he is unstable with 90%. and later still stuck with 90%, eventually went down because he couldn't finish the last 10%....just an old saying translated!

**OneToughBirdie** · 02-10-2010, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia

tax payers money? and you never ask for my form j, did you?

good thinking, lad but you can only be no.2....

I am flattered you call me a lad...hahaha...if you handicap me in a badminton match based on our age difference, we can make a game out of it but hmmm...you are a coach...I might still lose

**nokh88** · 02-10-2010, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie

I am flattered you call me a lad...hahaha...if you handicap me in a badminton match based on our age difference, we can make a game out of it but hmmm...you are a coach...I might still lose

Normally the coach can't beat his student after the latter has acquired the basic skills.