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Thread: How to beat Lin Dan?
03-13-2010, 01:26 PM #171
03-14-2010, 04:48 AM #172
SO lin dan lost in the quarter final to bao chun lai who was then lost to kenichi tago of Japan.
Should we ask bao chun lai what's the secret recipe that he know to beat lin dan?
03-14-2010, 05:08 AM #173
03-14-2010, 07:31 AM #174
03-14-2010, 07:39 AM #175
03-15-2010, 09:48 PM #176
However, the Chinese government also realize this and if Lin Dan were allowed to pursue what you purpose, it would mean the premature termination of their return from all that they have invested in Lin Dan. So the Chinese governments have things in place to prevent this sort of thing and the proof is simple:
Observe that Yonex had been a major sponsor for Lin Dan before the Olympic games, they even made a special AT700 limited edition racquet for him, something reserved for only the badminton elite. The 2008 Olympic games roll around and he switches to Li Ning, a relative newcomer in the badminton racquet industry. So I ask the question, who would you prefer to be your major sponsor? Li Ning or Yonex? Its obvious that Yonex would be much more rewarding because they hold a dominating share of the market, in fact, I dare say that there is nothing that Li Ning can offer to Lin Dan that Yonex cannot meet or even double, but yet, Lin Dan switched to Li Ning. Why? Because the Chinese government said so. There are things put in place by the Chinese government to ensure absolute obedience from their people, Lin Dan is no exception. This is the unfortunate reality of being a Chinese athlete.
03-16-2010, 04:34 AM #177
well, since you mentioned it so detail, one question which i couldn't find the answer yet - if the government is in a way 'influential' (hope this is not politic), then how come they have no control over him in terms of his 'new life'? i don't have to know much about it but he did mentioned in his press interview..about his training
03-16-2010, 10:00 AM #178
With LD's reported earnings in millions of US$, I have no doubt he is the richest player of all time. During my KL trip, Eric from Pertama Complex told me that LD income from endorsement to winning prize $$$, etc are withhold by CHN, and will be released to LD upon his retirement. That way, LD keeps motivated to play and train, not getting spoiled, even though he is very rich and can retire anytime as you say. When LD can or 'allow' to retire, if you read carefully, is for CHN to decide (i.e. when LD is no longer good and someone can take over, I guess). I find this very interesting and differs from BAM which reward her players instantly and the players went downhill after that (Pemuda has said this many times before). Maybe Rudy from his contact and friendship with the CHN players can clarify.
03-16-2010, 11:20 AM #179
China is different from other countries. Plus I read that LD bought a nice apartment with XXF,need $$$ for that.
BAM is actually slower than quite a number democratic countries in terms players actually getting their winnings (1 yr or later). Some rewards are also less in comparision
03-16-2010, 12:02 PM #180
What I did not say exactly is that CHN does not withhold ALL 100% $$$, LD gets some $$$ for his needs like apartment, spending, etc. Not really a bad thing for CHN to do...it is win-win...CHN developed LD be what he is today, LD glorify CHN, LD gets rich and famous and not get spoiled, etc....it works and both sides benefit.
Again, it is what I heard and I find it quite interesting and if you think carefully, it is possible. Maybe someone can confirm this 'rumour'.
Last edited by OneToughBirdie; 03-16-2010 at 12:09 PM.
03-16-2010, 12:07 PM #181
I was more referring to the million RM paid out to the 1992 TC team, maybe even the $$$ pay to HH for AE03, or the rumoured $$$ payout to KKK/TBH for AE MD win, that many posters here have alluded to getting these players spoiled and lost their hunger.
LCW may be different, in spite of being rich and famous, with Datukship, he still trains hard and delivers the wins.
Last edited by OneToughBirdie; 03-16-2010 at 12:11 PM.
03-16-2010, 05:32 PM #182
Li Ning is bigger than Yonex in terms of cooperate size too and that's why they have the power to take over the sponsorship and enter the badminton market in such a short period. Although I can't deny the existence of political influence.
Also Yonex is not as dominant as you imagined in China. Yonex are quite expensive in China standard and most local people buy the local brands(or clone).
The fact is, Li Ning can offer so much more to the Chinese team that Yonex can't match, and that's why they made the switch (along with the political reasons). Likewise, Korea has also abandoned Yonex.
PS: Li-ning also make custom racket for LD.
03-16-2010, 05:41 PM #183
BCL beat Lin Dan by smashing to his backhand. That's all I have to contribute
03-16-2010, 10:18 PM #184
Upwards of 80% of all professional badminton players use Yonex racquets, thats 4 out of every 5 players, conceivably the general consumer market would reflect that as well. This means that Li Ning is left to compete with everyone else in the remaining 20% of the market as Yonex already holds 80% of it.
Assuming optimal earning from Li Ning where they hold the remaining 20%, this would mean that the royalty rate per racquet Li Ning would have to pay their athletes would have to be at least 4 TIMES the rate that Yonex pays just to match what Yonex can offer to their players because Yonex has the sheer volumes of sales on their side. Note, this is assuming optimum conditions, in reality, its probably 6 to 8+ times when factoring in all of the other badminton manufacturers that also occupy the remaining 20% of the market. Already, you can see that Yonex hold an overwhelming marketing advantage. There is nothing that Li Ning can offer that Yonex can't match.
Li Ning might very well be the dominating sports provider in China, but professional players won't be leaving the Yonex All England to compete in the Li Ning All England anytime soon because Yonex is still the dominating provider of badminton racquets.
03-16-2010, 10:51 PM #185
03-16-2010, 11:20 PM #186
Take iphone for example, they have dominated the smart phone market and left their competitor behind for at least 3 years when the iphone was introduced. Was Apple ever a phone maker before? NO. But they have a strong foundation of their brand image and that's how they success when entering the phone market.
Similarly, Li Ning have the brand name and capital to out do Yonex in China. There is no more Yonex China Open and now it is replaced with Li Ning China Open. Li Ning is not into the England market yet, but don't be surprise if the sponsorship get take over one day, thus Li Ning All England.
It is not cheap to sponsor the STRONGEST team in badminton and Li-Ning does it in 1 shot.
Their maybe 80% of players using Yonex (as of today), but 100% of the Gold medal of YONEX all england 2009 was captured by Li-Ning team. So does it prove that Li-Ning equipment are superior? Nope, but I believe they have success in marketing themselves on the first year.
LD defeat was becuz BCL was at his best form and LD didn't played his best and not because of the brand that sponsor him.
03-16-2010, 11:21 PM #187
he is now helping others to beat himself
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