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Thread: How to beat Lin Dan?
03-17-2010, 04:40 AM #188
03-17-2010, 04:46 AM #189
lcw skipping this swiss open is sending a strong message to lin dan - you must win, boy, as i am not there and if you still messed up i don't think you can catch up!
03-17-2010, 05:06 PM #190
this is really entertaining.
who cares about what kind of message lcw wants to send. after he wins several world champions and olympics then i guess it's time that you can talk about catching up.
right now he is just struggling for not falling way too behind.
03-17-2010, 08:30 PM #191
03-17-2010, 08:35 PM #192
03-18-2010, 06:24 AM #193
I think all this how to beat LD thing has to stop. It shows that not only LD is so beatable nowadays, infact the whole chinese national team is vulnerable especially in ms.
LD achived so called greatness by his fans were actually after 08OG where he displayed a quite remarkable feat againts LCW in the final. He owned LCW his fans would called it. But that kind of display were not seen before and were not repeated since. So what happened after 08OG?
He won the 2009 AE and WC ofcourse but he had some bad matches as well. Eg. the EAG and lately the just concluded AE.
What i want to point out here is
1.) without the assistance of LYB to force him to follow instructions properly and to keep his cool head during matches and also with the absence of the great strategist TXH it does affect the outcome of LD performances.
2.) Also without any assistance from his team mate (match fixing) how far could LD really goes in a tourney.
3.) How many majors had LD won or at least benefitted with both in point 1 and 2? I personally think it affected LD to a great extent! At least his trophy cabinet would be lesser of majors.
The best example to back-up my opinions is of course the AE2010.
My conclusion is, if all plans weren't form around LD to win a tourney by the chinese ba, fair matches all the way, LD is beatable. Very beatable indeed!
My two cents.
Last edited by Aspire; 03-18-2010 at 06:30 AM.
03-18-2010, 09:52 AM #194
03-18-2010, 10:52 AM #195
of course all the players are beatable. nobody is completely invincible in badminton. lin dan is a great player, but talking about "beatableness" is totally nonsense.
one way to evaluate how great a player is in the history is his achievement. and personally i think that's the only metric. after several years nobody care about how fast you can move on the court, how great your defense is, how wonderful your backhand is, etc. they just remember TFK as OG2004, World Champion 2005, LD as OG2008, 3 times world champion. LCW? maybe because of this AE100 he is gonna be mentioned a little.
i am not an enemy to Dato LCW. i like watching his game and his style. but he really needs to work harder to collect some important trophies in his cabinet.
03-18-2010, 10:59 AM #196
03-18-2010, 11:44 AM #197
03-18-2010, 11:46 AM #198
03-18-2010, 12:27 PM #199
ld is retiring now - he will simply lost then varnish. collect his winnings and start a new life
03-18-2010, 01:25 PM #200
It takes a lot of time and money to make a product line popular enough to convince the general populace to switch brands. Think about it, a Li Ning user won the olympic gold medal in 2008 and all of the 2009 All England Champions and 2 of the 5 2010 All England championships went to Li Ning users, but yet ONLY the Chinese team uses Li Ning despite all of its success within the last 2 years. Everyone else still uses Yonex, which clearly illustrates their popularity and thus sustains their dominance.
Li Ning may be the number one supplier in China and is no doubt beginning to give Yonex a run for their money, but Yonex still clearly dominates the world market. In the future, Li Ning may overtake Yonex, but its going to take a long, long time before that will happen. Until then, there is no feasible way for them today to make an offer to their players that Yonex can't match.
03-18-2010, 01:34 PM #201
03-18-2010, 06:39 PM #202
I see so much non-sense.
"The Iphone is only a dominate player in the private consumer market, its a nobody in the corporate consumer market."
This has to be the biggest joke right? How can you say the private consumer market is nothing? Unless every corporate ppl carry 5 blackberry around.
Look, Li-Ning badminton is only focusing in the China market at the moment and it is only 2 years old. You're comparing them on a global scale and that's invalid.
Giving Li Ning time who knows if they will out-do Yonex, and it is likely cause they have a very strong foundation ($$). Why would LiNing bother to sponsor any player from other countries when they don't even have the distribution setup??? I am sure they are busy enough for their expansion in the Chinese market alone.
So tell me, what kind of offer that Yonex could offer and Li Ning can't match? Equipment or money? Unless every player is a Yonex fan boy otherwise I don't your point here.
ok, I am done with this, we've drifted too far away.
03-18-2010, 07:01 PM #203
yesterday on the bus, i saw one 35-40 year woman wearing Li Ning walking shoes.
I have yet seen any non-badminton person here wearing yonex shoes, especially outside the court.
03-19-2010, 06:13 AM #204
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