How to beat Lin Dan?

**pBmMalaysia** · 01-30-2010, 10:54 PM

yes, mental toughness is important to compliment other important ones, strategy, tactic....
most players, however, before they could change their game they already go cuckoo playing with ld!

some bcers also noticed fast attacking smashes can get points when playing with ld. yes, thats true and i was wondering why until today we can't find one player that can sustain such as easy skill and beat ld? the reason must be obvious i guess!

**pBmMalaysia** · 01-30-2010, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by cooler

to walk across the gobi desert, u have to take the first step. Don't think so far ahead lah

try to work on the first upset of this year

if u can

lol, but anything is possible! especially if we can use a photo copy machine

or if we are serious - ''there is a will there is a way'' or can we say ''there is 2 wills there is 2 ways''? :

**cooler** · 01-31-2010, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by Ferrerkiko

Although i am a die hard Lin Dan fan, i can share his weakness of the game. I had seen a lot of Lin dan games.. If badminton fans here remember the China master finals 2009 Lin Dan vs Boonsak Ponsana :

Lin dan weakness is his opponent is also an attacking player like him.. when Ponsana was doing jumping smashes, Lin dan got problems defending his shots.

2rd example to share is
2009 French Super Series - MS Finals - Lin Dan vs Taufik Hidayat :

Lin dan is also having problem with Taufik attacking smashes.. Fast attacking smashes, is my opinion on Lin dan 's weakness!

credit goes to the thai coach who make the necessary training for boonsak. Boonsak had improved since prior year. In 2010 MO, boonsak came close to taking a set from lcw 20-22 on 1st set. Boonsak got tired in 2nd set.

**pBmMalaysia** · 01-31-2010, 04:32 AM

pg is also an example of attacking player, though he has a variety of deceptive shots including the fast jump smash, he just can't keep using it against lcw to win not to mention ld. this kind of game just required too much energy from them and it's a wastage if the opponent keeps returning the bird!

we can also see other player such as boonsak (as mentioned by cooler) or even taufik getting tired just after the 1st set. this shows despite having the deadly n fast jump smash you just can't keep winning points using it.

guess it's back to the drawing board...

**george@chongwei** · 01-31-2010, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by cooler

credit goes to the thai coach who make the necessary training for boonsak. Boonsak had improved since prior year. In 2010 MO, boonsak came close to taking a set from lcw 20-22 on 1st set. Boonsak got tired in 2nd set.

Where got such thing came close to taking a set from Lcw 20-22?

I still remember boonsak got owned and humbled by LCW in the Mas Open final 2 weeks ago. Don't tell me u already forgotten, coolleeer?

Chong Wei LEE [1]

[MAS] -

[THA] Boonsak PONSANA21-13 21-7

**limsy** · 01-31-2010, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by george@chongwei

Where got such thing came close to taking a set from Lcw 20-22?

I still remember boonsak got owned and humbled by LCW in the Mas Open final 2 weeks ago. Don't tell me u already forgotten, coolleeer?

Chong Wei LEE [1]

[MAS] -

[THA] Boonsak PONSANA21-13 21-7

i think cooler mixed up ntm and bp in mo

**pBmMalaysia** · 01-31-2010, 07:28 AM

cooler must be over surf..fingers swollen so have to ditch the thailand coach?

**Badmintan** · 01-31-2010, 07:41 AM

Try to ask the Korean coach, I'm sure they have a book on Lin Dan's favourite shots/tendency/weakness.

The Koreans have managed to shock Lin Dan in the East Asia games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pHyJl61hHM

Lee Hyun Il have managed to beat Lin Dan by playing a smart rallying game to frustrate Lin Dan during the last Korean Open 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ5z1zwfOog

**pBmMalaysia** · 01-31-2010, 07:48 AM

afraid can't ask - the korean coach can't speak english and all here can't speak korean!

anyway thanks for sharing the vid

**Zabee** · 01-31-2010, 07:53 AM

i wonder what languange Li M use with the korea coach during Bae & Wang game hehehe ..

**pBmMalaysia** · 01-31-2010, 08:16 AM

lm only speaks mandarin and the korean only speaks korean but they still get along...somehow

**Zabee** · 01-31-2010, 08:27 AM

now i'm no words to describe it .. but Bae nearly nail it

**limsy** · 01-31-2010, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia

lm only speaks mandarin and the korean only speaks korean but they still get along...somehow

no
li mao speaks english too and abit of korean
and his korea is getting better now
i bet he will stay for,erm 10++ years in korea
as well as bahasa melayu

**pBmMalaysia** · 01-31-2010, 08:40 PM

l.m. sure learn fast to speak other languages and at the same time coaching. wonder if he uses the names of ld & lcw a lot!

**AlanY** · 02-01-2010, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by cooler

u can say tang fu+LYB out foxed misbun brothers

Since misbun had admitted LD's advantage is changing of tactic on the fly. Can't he do the same for lcw? Knowing about it and do nothing is a shame isn't it?

Compare Tang Xian Fu & Li Yong Bo with the Misbun! I'm afraid it's Perimer League against Sunday League in the park.