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    Quote Originally Posted by jug8man View Post
    Huh? What does vacations have to do with improving team / player performance in badminton?

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    yes it does.
    if u don't believe so, give back your vacation allowance to your company

    i believe MAS team enjoy team R&R once in a while.
    The thai coach is doing BAT's job using their own money because the coaches believe in building team spirit. The team quit the national team, is that right??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jug8man View Post
    Huh? What does vacations have to do with improving team / player performance in badminton?

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    can be part of their motivation plan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jug8man View Post
    Huh? What does vacations have to do with improving team / player performance in badminton?

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    It shows how much the coaches care for their players. It's not the team money but their own personal money. And it does improve team spirit as Cooler have said. The players have the utmost respect for their coaches cause they are not just players to the coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vtec101 View Post
    It shows how much the coaches care for their players. It's not the team money but their own personal money. And it does improve team spirit as Cooler have said. The players have the utmost respect for their coaches cause they are not just players to the coaches.
    Nod. they are more than coaches just teaching strokes and footwork. In chinese, we call them sifu. Other cultures may refer them as Master.
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    tanongsak is still in, right?

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    BAT bickering: Princess concerned

    Published on February 11, 2010

    HRH Princess Sirivannavari Nariratana has expressed her concern over the bickering in the Badminton Association of Thailand (BAT), according to Lt Col Sakrapi Thongsalee, a member of the national coaching team.

    Last week, a group of players, led by world No 7 Boonsak Ponsana and some coaches, decided to quit the national team in protest against BAT's proposed sponsorship deal with Yonex. They were unhappy with the way they were treated on the matter as the association allegedly tried to force them into signing the contract or risk managing their own affairs.

    The dispute raised concerns outside the organisation and several parties tried to mediate in a bid to defuse the situation.

    The princess, herself a badminton player, was one of those who kept monitoring the event.

    Yesterday, the Sports Authority of Thailand governor, Kanokphand Chulakasem, invited Charoen Wattanasin, the BAT president, for a talk at his office, with Maj Gen. Charouck Arirachakaran, the Olympic Committee of Thailand secretarygeneral, also present during the discussion which lasted for around an hour.


    After the meeting, Kanokphand said Charoen agreed to accept the conditions that the players had proposed in solving the problem:

    1. The players can train at any court which is not under the association

    2. The organisation must respect the players' right to attend the national selection trial.

    3. The association must give approval to the players who are competing in professional circuit

    4. The organisation must postpone its plan to sign contract and the players allowed to consider the deal.


    "The matter is finished after both parties put the national interest first. I don't think we need to make any written document to guarantee they would not be at odds again since everyone is a professional.


    "We just needed to put the "team" contract on hold for the time being. They would consider signing the document if they are assured that it would benefit everyone. Going by the mood, I think it would be sooner than later," said Kanokphand.

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    BAT chief accepts players' demands

    • Published: 11/02/2010 at 12:00 AM
    The Badminton Association of Thailand (BAT) has agreed to heed demands by the protesting national players and coaches.
    Boonsak Ponsana, right, and Sompol Kukasemkit tell the Senate committee on sports about their conflict with the badminton chiefs on Monday. THITI WANNAMONTHA


    But the conflict seems far from over as a representative of the players and coaches claimed the BAT's move was "insincere."
    Sports Authority of Thailand (SAT) governor Kanokphand Chulakasem yesterday held a talk with BAT president Charoen Wattanasin to find a way to solve the problem.
    Charouck Arirachakaran, secretary-general of the National Olympic Committee of Thailand (NOCT), was present as a witness.
    The closed-door meeting was called after 12 players, led by Boonsak Ponsana, and four coaches, led by Sompol Kukasemkit and Udom Luangphetcharaporn, announced last week that they were quitting the national team to protest the BAT's mismanagement.
    They said they could not accept the BAT's attempt to sign a "team contract" with a sporting goods manufacturer and demanded certain BAT executives including Charoen resign.
    After yesterday's meeting, Kanokphand announced that the problem was over as Charoen accepted some of the players and coaches' conditions.
    Charoen agreed that the players can train at any venue other than BAT's courts, that they are still eligible to represent the country, that the BAT will endorse them to play in tournaments and that the controversial team contract is put on hold.
    Charoen said he had done his best to end the conflict. "It's about different views. I have tried to stay as calm as I can," he said.
    He said he welcomed the players and coaches to return to the national side for the Thomas Cup and Uber Cup preliminary rounds in Nakhon Ratchasima next week.
    But Udom said Charoen's move would not eradicate the root of the problem.
    "It is not yet over. They just want the leading players to play in the Thomas Cup and Uber Cup. They ignored the cause of the problem," said Udom, who coaches Boonsak.
    He said all the players were not fit physically and mentally for the tournament.
    "We have not trained since Jan 24 and Boonsak is nursing an injury," he said. "We will look into the details and make a decision about our next move."



    Boonsak is suffering from a swollen ankle now after spraining his ankle during a football match last week. Unlikely he will start training anytime soon.From what I was being told, the players will most likely not participate for TC and UC.
    Last edited by justme_manda; 02-11-2010 at 11:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
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    After the meeting, Kanokphand said Charoen agreed to accept the conditions that the players had proposed in solving the problem:

    1. The players can train at any court which is not under the association

    2. The organisation must respect the players' right to attend the national selection trial.

    3. The association must give approval to the players who are competing in professional circuit

    4. The organisation must postpone its plan to sign contract and the players allowed to consider the deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justme_manda View Post
    BAT chief accepts players' demands
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    They said they could not accept the BAT's attempt to sign a "team contract" with a sporting goods manufacturer and demanded certain BAT executives including Charoen resign.
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    But Udom said Charoen's move would not eradicate the root of the problem.
    "It is not yet over. They just want the leading players to play in the Thomas Cup and Uber Cup. They ignored the cause of the problem," said Udom, who coaches Boonsak.
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    ..BAT management accepted everything else but ignored the 2 main issues. Will the main players and coaches yield and take those 2 demands off the table??..

    *thanks, justme_manda, on the updated news..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..BAT management accepted everything else but ignored the 2 main issues. Will the main players and coaches yield and take those 2 demands off the table??..

    *thanks, justme_manda, on the updated news..
    if i'm BP and coaches, no deal. The main grievances were not met. BAT only bent enough to give an impression to the people that they gave into players and coaches demand as a publicity stunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler View Post
    if i'm BP and coaches, no deal. The main grievances were not met. BAT only bent enough to give an impression to the people that they gave into players and coaches demand as a publicity stunt.
    Yes, I agree that the main problem is not solved. But Thailand [the country] needs them to play soon [in the Thomas-Uber qualification round], thus, they agreed a compromise for now. Patriotic people will do this. Fight for the country first talk about internal politics later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna View Post
    Yes, I agree that the main problem is not solved. But Thailand [the country] needs them to play soon [in the Thomas-Uber qualification round], thus, they agreed a compromise for now. Patriotic people will do this. Fight for the country first talk about internal politics later.
    yes, that could be one of option, partly comply for the time being for TC/UC events and continue with negotiation. Presently, BP is injured so sitting out competiton isn't costing him.

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    Looks like Boonsak is very serious in this case
    Anyway, sad to hear that he's injured now.

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    Heard the news that CEO of Thai badminton resigned...again..just heard..not 100% so sure

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    if the thai baddy boss is goin' down,who'll take over his rein?

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    Maybe Boonsak...

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    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...0&postcount=85

    Youngsters shoulder Thai hopes after badminton stars withdraw

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    Published on February 20, 2010


    Rocked by the withdrawal of key players including world No 7 Boonsak Ponsana, things look bleak for Thailand in next week's Thomas Cup (men) and Uber Cup (women) Asian preliminaries in Nakhon Ratchasima.

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    i think it come to the point that HRH Princess Sirivannavari Nariratana, a baddy player and fan herself, should show her authority and clean up this mess. She has to exercise her power, step on some toes. Time to clean the BAT house.

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