Recommended String for Plasitc Shuttlecocks

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  1. Xhan_

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    Hi, I just want to know which string is the most preferable when using a plastic shuttlecock. I believe we use the yellow Mavis 350 ones. Currently, I am using an Arc Saber 10, with BG 80 strung at 24lbs but sometimes I feel that my clears are kinda weak. Any suggestions? I think I saw a related thread but I don't know where it is.
     
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    In general, I find that thicker strings and lower tension is better for plastic.

    So, you could lower your BG80 to 21-22 lbs, or you could try BG65 at 23-24lbs (with prestretch. 24-25lbs if no prestretch.)

    An excellent string that I've recently loved is Zymax 67. It's medium feel is in between the softness of BG65 and hardness of BG80, but with the power and control of BG80. And it seems to hold tension very well, especially when strung in 2 pieces.
     
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    bg 70pro too.........
     
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    generally, when using a plastic shuttle the tension of your racket should be lower.
     
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    Really? I never noticed that. Any reasons why lower string tension is needed for plastic shuttlecocks? I was thinking of restringing my 24lbs ac 10 to bg pro 70 @27 lbs. o___o i need some answers before I restring my racket xD

    So if I want to restring my ac 10 to bg 70 pro, should i just go around 20-23ish or higher? o_O thanks for the answers
     
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    Mostly it has to do with the fact that plastic shuttle are much lighter than feather ones. If you watch a slow motion video of a smash (like the yonex one w/ their arc z) you'll see that the string bed flexes like a trampoline and then springs back. This is part of what generates power. For the same tension string, you won't get as much flex in the string bed with a plastic shuttle as you will with a feather one keeping all other factors the same.
     
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    There's something about feather shuttles that cause it to hit short and crisp (like "whaapaarp") as compared to plastic shuttles.

    Read somewhere that it has to do with the faster shuttle turnaround time right after it hits the strings for feathers. On Yonex's website, it states that plastic turnaround time is 0.020 secs as compared to 0.015 secs for feather. So, feathers don't need as much time on the stringbed and therefore the stringbed can be tighter, relative to plastic.
     
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    Also don't forget to take into account that thinner strings feel and hit 2-3 lbs tighter than thick.

    So, eg. bg80 at 22lbs will feel and hit like bg65 (or bg70) at 25lbs.
     
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    Ohh, I get it now. So I can use any strings ... as long as it is at low tension?

    But that sounds weird. I have an Armortech 250 strung with BG 80 (But it's color purple) at 27lbs and sometimes the AT 250 has better clears than my AC 10, but sometimes its vice versa.

    Also, if I restring my racket, should I do the +2 in the cross? I've seen people doing that here on the forums .. I'm just wondering. Thanks again!
     
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    Yes, but thin strings require even lower tension.

    You should clear that out in your mind first which has more power to clear ... there should be no vice versa.

    Yes, 2 piece stringing with +2 lbs in the cross is supposed to retain the racket shape the best.
     
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    Ohh, now I get it. Thanks visor, you're a true help. I've been having trouble about my clears and others sometimes.
     
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    Isn't it the other way. Plastics is heavier than feather however feather feels heavier than plastic.
     
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    They both probably weigh the same by design.

    But plastic's weight is more concentrated in the cork head with light plastic skirt, whereas feather's is distributed more evenly with lighter cork and sturdier feather skirt.
     
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    u just contradicted yourself.
     
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    Don't just leave me hanging... mind showing me where?
     
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    Not really. If I am correct, it was verified by using precision scale.
     
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    he means in one post
    "Mostly it has to do with the fact that plastic shuttle are much lighter than feather ones"
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    "They both probably weigh the same by design"
     
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    i think it has 2 do with the fact that the feather shuttles have a centre of mass further away from the cock, so if u don't hit it bang on, u transfer less energy, which makes it feels heavier...
     
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    Eh? Post #6 is druss ... not me, I'm visor!

    As a matter of fact, I find that plastic feels "thud and blunt" on the string bed, unlike feather that feels "crisp and sharp". Which leads me to think that plastic's feeling is due to most of the weight being in the cork head, as opposed to feather's weight being more evenly distributed.
     
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    ups my bad.... then i don't c how it's contradicting lol
     

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