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    Quote Originally Posted by AhLunn View Post
    3 months ago I when to a sport specialist because my shoulder was in pain. That doctor ask to do MRI scan. It cost me RM750. After i show it to him. He said my shoulder muscle tear. And tell me need to do some therapy to build my shoulder muscle and stop playing for 3 months after that can start playing back. In a week i done it everyday but i feel strange that my shoulder is so pain why doctor still ask me to build muscle to make it more pain. After that i went to a chinese doctor (MD & PHD). Take some medicines for 2 months that cost me RM1500+. While i taking my medicine (chinese doctor) and still doing muscle building therapy. After 3 months I feel my shoulder not hurting anymore. Then i start back my badminton. Warm up properly and play it in a very careful way. First few warm up high shots is ok. But later my shoulder start to pain again while i hit some high shots. After that i stop it and didnt play anymore. Next day i when back to that sport specialist doctor. Told him my problem. He told me that my shoulder would not recover anymore. It give me a shock! I told him last time he told me rest for 3 months and do therapy then can recover and now he said cant recover. That doctor keep telling me to do surgery RM15000. Now i really dont know what to do. I wont do any surgery for my shoulder because i feel that doctor just want to earn money from me. Because he keep asking me to do surgery. Feel like going back to my chinese doctor and ask him but his price really expensive.

    I just want to know muscle tear can recover or really cant recover at all. Any recommended doctor is really good at this kind of injuries (Chinese doctor also can)
    You will need a second opinion and maybe a repeat MRI on the shoulder to see if any new injuries consistent with a physical examination.

    Your first doctor sounds like an orthopaedic surgeon - they are the guys who repair shoulders.

    Try to find another orthopaedic surgeon who does sports injuries.

    It is possible your first diagnosis was incorrect - i.e. not a muscle problem.

    As for the chinese doctor, some of those herbs may only contain painkiller (doesn't fix the injury). If you have a structural problem (like a torn ligament), I would be extremely surprised if herbal medicine can cure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazydisciple View Post
    when you say 'specialist'... a physician who specializes in shoulder pain...what do you call them?
    Orthopaedic doctors - there are different types: general, spine, hand, sports

    For chronic pain, look for a Pain medicine doctor.

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    "Ahlun- 3 months ago I when to a sport specialist because my shoulder was in pain. That doctor ask to do MRI scan. It cost me RM750. After i show it to him. He said my shoulder muscle tear. And tell me need to do some therapy to build my shoulder muscle and stop playing for 3 months after that can start playing back."

    im curious what the mri reading/final report stated.....

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    OK, I often get shoulder pain when playing badminton and I was told to take a break. I tried, I really did but the temptation got the better of me. Now today my coach got me to do some smash practice. I must have done around 100 smashes in quick succesion and never has my shoulder felt better. At first it hurt but eventually it stopped and I felt great. I am not recommending this but for me I think it helped. I will see if it still works when I next play and inform you all later.

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    Ok, I am still getting occasional pain but its not too bad. Only get it when I have to stretch my shoulder a lot and reach up high. Maybe it is a serious muscle problem and I am screwing my shoulder up. It seems to get better everyday. I think for those with minor pain or medium pain, make sure you warm up properly ie, lift light weights slowly, rotate shoulder etc. If it is unbearable, just stop playing and see a doctor. You wont be doing yourself any favours if you don't. just my 2 pence.

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    Hi I hav injure my rotary cuff . Would like to check if any doctor to recommend? Thanks! Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindaim View Post
    if u wan , u can let me take a look
    Hi Blindaim! Are you a specialist in such injury?

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    I have injured my rotary cuff again and make me wonder if warming up and resting help...
    I took a long 3years + break from badminton due to my shoulder injuries and now the damage recurring again.
    I can only said no matter how much exercise, strengthening of muscle and warm up and rest, the past injuries will happen.
    It is best to prevent shoulder injuries from 1st else 2nd ...3time... for me is 7times. Sad to say it started to injure since SOC run, then playing thebadminton make it worst.

    Now if i going to play badminton i use less 50% smash power and stop doing jump smash or outstretch maneuver.

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    some time is the racket play the trick. why dont try change the racket or string tension ?
    cause last time i also having pain at my shoulder but after i change to other racket the problem solve already.

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    I just came back to badminton after 21 years break. Played 3 times from once aweek to twice now. I wonder is it my technique I feel alot of my right Lats & infraspinatus. I rest & do Chinese cupping to loosen up the tight muscles. I also warm up before playing.But I think I may be too aggressive as we play 2 hrs doubles & singles. I m also a aggressive player smash to kill. I m 39. Just want to have a 2nd opinion. Btw my rackets is 25lb tension.

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    If you feel your infraspinatus you are really in tune with your body.
    Your choices are: Play less. Hit less hard. Get lots of physio. Hire someone to correct any technique deficits.
    I would suggest doing all of the first three until you get the fourth straightened away.

    Sounds like you are being pro-active. Good luck and take care of that thing because, like diamonds, some shoulder injuries are forever.

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    In tune? Lol what u mean?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fidget View Post
    If you feel your infraspinatus you are really in tune with your body. Your choices are: Play less. Hit less hard. Get lots of physio. Hire someone to correct any technique deficits. I would suggest doing all of the first three until you get the fourth straightened away.Sounds like you are being pro-active. Good luck and take care of that thing because, like diamonds, some shoulder injuries are forever.

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    he means listen too your body! practise but try not too push yourself too hard especially if you were sedentary :P

    my knees and glutes hurt like mad when i first re-ignited my baddy

    doing some jogging & brief weight training sessions will help you recover & normalise muscle imbalances

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    Lol ok, I m a gym trainer. I know what to do but we play hard. Lol. I will rest n trigger point all the fired up muscles. Cupping & trigger point n stretching is great!

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    Injured again but this time is just a strain on my shoulder for overhead shot using stiff racket. Then i change back to flex racket and the pain subsided. I think it is my incorrect stretch for overhead shot resulted in the strain.

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    The thing is, with badminton like tennis and a great deal of sports, we use overhead action a great deal - and the most common injury resulting from that are rotator cuff injuries (as everyone has established very well by now). The big problem is that if the injury is a tear (which is relatively common), it can propagate and become worse and more permanent. Quite honestly, I would recommend that if pain occurs and mostly occurs when you lift your arm above 90 degrees from the floor, stop doing overhead shots for a while. Review your technique for overhead shots as it is the most common factor in such injuries. After some time at home, use light weights and do some shoulder exercises to help strengthen the muscles so that the tear is not under stress to become worse - so no big dumbells that only boost ego, not strength. You can also just use your racket and swing slowly and build up strength that way. Only a few minutes per day is plenty to get you back on the courts and with less chance of injuring your shoulder.
    Likewise, it is situations like this that have given rise to the usage of weight/ resistance training in most athletes - to help prevent these situations by increasing the strength of the muscles and thus partially the integrity of the muscles.

    Come to think of it, I carry a can of cold spray and hot spray with my first aid kit wherever I go... I brought it to the clubs I go to and it's caught on - treat your shoulder injury with cold sprays immediately after your game and rest for 1 or 2 games and maybe consider carrying on and when you finish - spray again. This will help reduce all kinds of injuries and use hot spray for aches and sore muscles before and after =)
    Deep freeze and deep heat FTW
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    I recommend stretching n trigger point release. I had pain when I came back after 20years break. Now I regularly cup myself n stretch alot ESP the rotator cuff.

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