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    Quote Originally Posted by ixoye View Post
    Cheung is correct. The problem with many local trainers is that they don't teach the base level correctly, if at all. What they teach is good enough for club play but not varsity. They do that because most people want that, they just want to play social games with their friends. So you can't really blame them.

    No matter how many singles games or how often you play, if your base level is low or incorrect, you won't go very far.
    The thing I noticed with a lot of the trainers I've encountered is that they don't really give much focus on one thing. For example, they teach footwork. Once you exhibit a grasp on the proper footwork, it's okay already, without focus on improving the speed anymore. Same thing with smashes, once you can smash, it's done, but without extreme power or steepness. That's why I have a grasp of everything though I'm not proficient in anything.

    I guess that kind of training is good enough for club play where speed isn't that much of a factor and people get by even with mediocre placing.

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    There are so many ways to learn this game. If you can't get into the team right now, ask if there is a way of helping out. This way you get to see and hear what the coaches are teaching the students. You can practice elsewhere but at least you know the information.

    Use video from youtube to study players. Choose a player you admire and try to copy them. Focus on their technique rather than watching the game. Try to copy and learn what's working and where you still need help.

    You have to be selfish in training to get what you want out of it. Ask others for help but make sure you help them too. Use this forum to ask questions and never ever give up.

    To your success

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post

    My current badminton schedule is as follows:

    2-4 hours every Monday, and sometimes Wednesday - club games with fairly good people. A lot of them are over 40 already so it's a different playing field, mostly technique and less of the athleticism. I actually got used to this slow pace so I wasn't used to the high-speed teenage pace of the varsity team.

    2 hours every Saturday - playing with my aunts. They're not that good and I feel like one of the reasons I've plateaued is because I always play with them. However, I have tried joining other groups during Saturday as well, playing 2 hours before the 2 hours I play with my aunts, so that makes a total of 4 hours. The people here aren't fast, again because of age, but they play with a lot of power and technique.

    I've stopped training because I can't afford a coach and I was only available during peak hours in our club which meant court fees were much higher than off peak hours (8am-4pm) (in our country it's not a monthly fee).
    I don't know about other people but I think a lot of 'good' players would have played 5 times a week at some stage in life. This is what I meant by playing more.

    If your club doesn't have that option, then perhaps search out other clubs on different days of the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    Jut

    There are so many ways to learn this game. If you can't get into the team right now, ask if there is a way of helping out. This way you get to see and hear what the coaches are teaching the students. You can practice elsewhere but at least you know the information.

    Use video from youtube to study players. Choose a player you admire and try to copy them. Focus on their technique rather than watching the game. Try to copy and learn what's working and where you still need help.

    You have to be selfish in training to get what you want out of it. Ask others for help but make sure you help them too. Use this forum to ask questions and never ever give up.

    To your success

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    Thanks for the advice, I agree that I could probably be the team's water boy (I wouldn't mind actually) just as long as I could learn a few things, but the team is pretty exclusive. Nonetheless, perhaps I could still ask arund if they need any helping hands.

    I youtube a lot, looking at various instructional videos and I watch a lot of professional videos as well. The thing with professional videos is that it's possible that what they do is too advanced for my level right now that it'd simply too ambitious to try and copy them right away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    I don't know about other people but I think a lot of 'good' players would have played 5 times a week at some stage in life. This is what I meant by playing more.

    If your club doesn't have that option, then perhaps search out other clubs on different days of the week.
    I have a lot of school stuff to handle that's why I only got to play at those times. Hopefully now that it's summer time here, my summer classes are less heavy and I could play even more frequently Thing is, I was planning to spend the extra time gained to focus on training instead of actual club games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I don't think that's possible. Our school varsity's quite stringent on their training sessions.

    I live in Pasig, near Mandaluyong. Yes, I am in college, incoming sophomore What about you?

    hi kuya! actually i am a high school student and is going to be a sophomore next school year hehe

    good luck on your badminton career. Don't lose hope and remember practice! practice! practice!

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    Focus on the basics first ... proper footwork, correct grip, right execution of shots. Once you already have a strong foundation, start with improving your strategy, endurance, speed, strength, etc.

    Training is good, but never give up playing with the right people. It sounds harsh, but you will never improve if you play with weaker players. I'm sure there are a lot of club players who are even better than varsity players. Go play with them. Join queueings.

    Oh! Choose the right coach. This is harsh, but sometimes, there are coaches who aren't certified coaches. I had a coach who was teaching me wrong tactics and strategies. What she was teaching me is totally different from what is written in badmintonbible.com and what BCers (and even Jonas Rasmussen) usually advise. The worse thing is, she's a university coach. Poor kids. No wonder their university never wins a tournament. All I'm saying is, be wise in what advise to follow.

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    Thanks venkatesh

    Yeah, I'm building up on knowledge from badmintonbible and youtube videos while waiting for my injury to fully heal, so as to be able to be vigilant on what I'll learn from others. I guess I should combine self-learning with actual coaching, and apply it to club queuing to be able to improve to varsity level.

    BTW, d'you mind disclosing who that coach is? Our school's coaches happen to be female as well :P

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    I'd rather not say. But here's the thing. I've experienced training under four different coaches. They have different strenghts and weaknesses when it comes to teaching. Luckily, my first coach taught me a good basic foundation. That's the most important thing, because if you're taught the wrong footwork and what not from the very start, it would be very much hard to unlearn. Plus, I was with the right crowd. Our senior varsity players helped me a lot.

    My second coach was even better because he imposed self-discipline, had a good knowledge of the sport, and was a good player himself. Unfortunately, I had to quit the team because of my priorities/studies, and I couldn't cope up with the training schedule (as he is more strict than our first coach). But I'm sure that I would have been a better player by now had I continued training under him.

    My third coach was so-so. He's a fantastic player on court, but off court, he's not a good teacher. My training with him was only a refresher course because I came back playing baddy again after college.

    My last coach was the worst. I can't see any trace of knowledge about good tactics. She doesn't even know the right terminologies. She doesn't use the terms push, drive, etc, and instead uses invented words. Enough said.

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