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07-04-2010, 08:24 AM #307
definitely not, chris
recent news sure wouldn't help any players performances
but its better than no news
it always start with some news and this time how big it is
depend on who are concerned this time
if just ordinary people and fans it will be no news later
its called political news (did you mean this?)
but if it continues and becomes big news
then that means somebody bigger is behind
then malaysia boleh!
07-04-2010, 08:26 AM #308
07-04-2010, 08:34 AM #309
Datuk Nadzmi did the right thing in stepping down as CNT and let Ng Chin Chai to take over the operation. However i dont understand why he wanted to appoint Yusri Yusuf as the assistant secretary for Chin Chai?
If Yusri is in charge of the Cochrane Project.. then Nadmi should have appoint him as Special Project Assistant. Anyway i dont know how far is Mr Yusri's involvement in it being the assistant secretary for Chin Chai. Will just wait and see. Hope both of them will do well together in promoting and expanding the strength of our Malaysia badminton.
07-04-2010, 09:21 AM #310
07-04-2010, 10:40 AM #311
the concept of explain is to made the people who confuse to be clear
how can u explain something to someone who thought he can understand everything by internet(sorry,u might think i am saying u,cooler,i am not saying u.so just ignore this ya)
07-04-2010, 11:41 AM #312
The MACC has been invited by the BAM to investigate the soured ING sponsorship deal because of suspected hanky panky. It has even visited the BAM office and talked with some BAM officials and searched some files and records.
I think this is the first time any badminton association in Malaysia has been under investigation by the MACC. It is a huge embarrassment.
But I think this will be good for the BAM after this cleaning up. The timimg of the investigation, after the TC and UC instead of before, appears to be prudent.
Let us wait and see what happens now.
07-04-2010, 12:04 PM #313
07-04-2010, 12:33 PM #314
There is even a joker who is suggesting that MACC should also investigate all the players for throwing away matches without a fight, ostensibly for receiving bribes. I think this is a bit far-fetched.
I am not sure if anyone will get into trouble on the ING deal because if a criminal act is not committed then there is no crime. Since the deal collapsed with no money going to anyone, then I am not sure anyone can be charged. Perhaps if the law allows something like an intent to commit a crime to be punishable, then there will be a case.
07-04-2010, 12:49 PM #315
investigation is just a show so go with it if anyone wants to...lol
what to find? whose that dumb?
a scape goat? maybe and its going to no other than the former secretary...
unless we are all not seeing something here yet
07-04-2010, 12:50 PM #316
07-04-2010, 06:51 PM #317
I read somewhere that the indian people exploit the weakness of the monkey. The monkey has a weakness, whenever it grabs hold of food it will never let go. So to trap the monkey they open a hole in a coconut and fill it with food. The monkey comes and puts its hands into coconut and is deeply engrossed in removing the food from the coconut, no matter what happens it will never let go,so that is the best time to catch it.
Aren't you lucky Limsy that you can get a U education, then you can learn to think, to get a balanced view, to be able to think out of the box and to engage others.This kind of problem here
occurs with people who have stopped learning and is a malady called tunnel vision.
We know what is happening in msia (unless we are sleeping), Ants already knew the answer in posting no.4, we know this has been going on for decades, it is news to people far away.
Anyway, like i said a tiger cannot change its stripes, when you live far away, dont know local people cannot speak or read local languages or dont want to learn them,have no friends, cannot get along with people maybe,the internet becomes a 2nd home.So learn from it,hone your thinking and communication skills and get a life.
07-04-2010, 07:12 PM #318
Let's hope that after investigations a badminton player or official does not end up at the foot of a
high rise building. Throwing games for money far-fetched, well we live here.
I agree with you PB,all this is politicking is not doing much for the game, but it does serve as a warning shot to all and sundry that big brother is watching you.Someone once mentioned in this forum that Sports Associations everywhere are riddled with corruption and little Napoleans.You know it too well I'm sure.
We are not doing good for the sport by gossiping about all these politics. The other interesting thing I like to know is whether there is a law that does not allow a Managing or Marketing Agent to earn fees for brokering a deal because it is their business, after all in a survey years ago, it was found that some 15 % of the population are brokers and runners.The BWF does not seem to think so by engaging that agent.
There are zillions of other brokerage deals that I will not mention here that the MACC will not touch,
you know I know, so this BAM thing is "much ado about nothing" as the people are just small fry as usual.It could also be the routine "sandiwara" on the part of the politicians behind the scene to allay the complaints of the public.
Back to badminton or continue to **** on your own doorstep?
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07-04-2010, 07:36 PM #319
07-04-2010, 07:38 PM #320
More credible? Anyway HR should not be taken seriously like the MM, they are more gossip tabloids.
People in Msia say that local people have short memories and forget and forgive very quickly. History here is actually a few posts ago.
Last edited by Bbn; 07-04-2010 at 07:43 PM.
07-05-2010, 04:17 AM #321
of the bits and pieces delivered here and there and see correlations and connectivity ( I don't claim to be right, just arranging facts so that they can be seen holistically,pls add or expand or edit if you desire ):
1) Nadzmi was appointed to take over from F.Che Wan during Frosts time, after complaints about players not paid, bad management etc etc. This guy was appointed by Mahatir as he had a track record in corporate affairs and manufacturing of a very protected car.
2) The guy was supposed to reorganise the set-up to be more professional and do away with all the mismanagement and petty corruption that had plagued BAM so long.
3) Today his set-up could be seen as an improvement but the old problems of inadequate money, slow payment etc etc are still around. People know his ability as a corporate man, but not his knowledge of badminton.Some doubt his commitment,he may not really know problems hands on.
4) Government funds and sponsor money is available on paper, but they take time to trickle down why is this so, fact is in many organisations funds are available only in theory, they may have been diverted to other uses as directed by the politicians behind the scene.
5) Perhaps this character is not hands on, he doesn't know players are having problems, he is away, Ganga may be closer to the action, he tries to be a hero and endorses a deal to solve the problem quickly before it worsens.
6) This character wakes up, he feels undermined as his status and that of the car is at stake, he postures and takes it out on Ganga.
7) Now his political bosses bring in the MACC to frighten people who dare to challenge the management.
8) He is aware of his failure as a chairman of the coaching committee and gives it up, and maybe now wants to spend more time on this object so that his car does not get undermined. There is however no question why the players are paid so slowly and why the association is always short of money, definitely money is peanuts to this man, but not necessarily true of people he is in cohort with.
Now I don't claim that my story is true, it is mainly based on the postings of the members of BC, I absolve all responsibility in case of lawsuits, the above analysis is merely hypothetical subject to critical review by anyone reading this post.
Last edited by Bbn; 07-05-2010 at 04:29 AM.
07-05-2010, 04:21 AM #322
As you can see above I was responding to Ants' post and what is wrong with it? It is what a prudent person would try to avoid because of legal consequences.
An about turn? Of course it is not because it is not conjecture but reported in the media.
What is your problem with this? BAM is to all intents and purposes self-financing, although it sometimes gets a large one-off cash injection or donation from the government, so long as the government does not interfere with its management.
BTW, it is not possible for something to be discussed and agreed to by the BAM Council without knowledge of the president, even if the president is away during the adoption of that issue. Do you know why? Everything that is passsed by the BAM Council must have certain compliances to be legally binding.
One is the topic or subject must have been in the meeting agenda sent out earlier by the president. Two, the meeting must discuss and pass the topic. Three, the most important, is that whatever that was passed by the BAM Council must be recorded in writing called minutes of the meeting and these minutes must be signed by the president. Otherwise all such meetings are useless. The president also cannot avoid responsibilty by saying that he was not at the meeting when a certain issue was passed. Damn it he signed the minutes!
07-05-2010, 04:24 AM #323
Will the real Richard Nixon please stand up?
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