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Thread: Victor (Asia)
05-08-2010, 09:51 AM #35
Definitely better looking sports apparel than Li Ning! At much competitive prices too!
05-08-2010, 09:46 PM #36
I give ratings in the forum to let brothers here know, which shop in Singapore deserve to let us go and visit it, base on good customer service.
At Li Ning Ion , the china retail people at least see customers come in know how to serve. and then be attentive to it. In the retail line , is all about customer service.
At 10 & 10, that china gal is just unfriendly , 0 customer service.. and also rude.. from now on i will not go to her for restring racket..
05-17-2010, 01:13 AM #37
I know many of you victor fans are curious, heres some information...
i now personally own a SW35 , BS11 and played with my friend's BS09
all i can tell you is
( all the victors are made in taiwan , sg coded , all 3u 2g , with strings vs650 @26 lbs)
Head Heaviness ( BS 11 > SW 35 > BS 09)
Shaft stiffness ( SW 35 > BS 11 > BS 09)
Power (BS11/SW35 > BS09)
honestly,its my own opinion on the power part, but most of the time the sw35 feels more powerful when its head lighter than bs11
but for the bs 11 , because of the frame , when u swing it , its really fast and you don't really feel the head heaviness, but when u hold it still u will know how heavy it is compared to the sw35.
For all the drive ,push ,lobbing , control , net play i think its down to each individual player , so i can't comment on it.
so tell me what u all think about your victors guys..
05-17-2010, 05:00 AM #38
You've pretty well nailed each racquet as far as I can see.
BS09 is a lovely racquet, used by Lee Yong Dae. It seems to respond better to higher tension. It certainly feels more flexible than BS11 and SW35 and the head is lighter too.
BS10 is also a brilliant racquet. I preferred that to BS11 - just a little bit more solid and one of the best all-rounder racquets I've ever played.
I beleive Victor brand is seriously under-rated. They are world class racquets and what's also great about Victor is that they don't change their range every two years.
You should all give them a try.
To your success
05-17-2010, 05:37 AM #39
you might want to share with us abitmore on the bs 08 and bs 10 here for all the victor fans
haven get a hold on those 2 yet
05-17-2010, 05:49 AM #40
since we are talking about Victor's Rackets. I would like to ask is SW35 good for single players that use wrist only?? I dont have a powerful smash but would like to generate a bit more if SW35 would help.
05-17-2010, 10:37 AM #41
Here's my review. I think of how a racquet feels and plays compared to other racquets in my reviews rather than some of the stuff the technical guys look for. SO here's my review, which has not yet been published on my blog.
As I work for a badminton retailer, I am occasionally asked to review other manufacturer’s racquets. Against this backcloth, I recently tested a Victor Bravesword 10 badminton racquet and got a huge surprise.
A few years ago, the Victor brand was extremely small in UK, mainly considered a European brand. We knew very little about their products and level of quality. That changed just over a year ago when it was announced that they were the new sponsors of the Korean National Badminton Team. This was a serious leap forward for Victor and ultimately gave them an international seal of approval in terms of quality. After all, if a racquet is good enough for Lee Yong Dae, current Olympic Mixed Doubles champion and World Mens Doubles Silver Medallist, and his team, then it must be good!
On to my review…
The Bravesword 10 is the “second” racquet in the Bravesword series, the cream of the Victor badminton range, sitting either side of the 9 and 11.
It’s a good looking racquet in charcoal grey, with flashes of red, white and what looks like a hologram strip along the side of the head. It arrived in a full length bag in red with the name on the bag to differentiate it from the 9 and 11. This is a high quality full-cover bag too, nothing flimsy here.
Grip size is G3 which is the smaller of the two grip sizes on Victor racquets. It’s equivalent to a size 3.5 inches or Yonex G4, which is a bit confusing. Weight is 86g. Interestingly, this racquet has a maximum recommended stringing tension of 30lbs so it’s got to be very strong and should be extremely popular in the Asian market where strings tensions are so much higher.
This is a fairly even balanced racquet, slightly head heavy, but not too much. The shaft is designated stiff.
Usually when I test and review racquets, I like to play with the racquet factory strung. On this occasion, the Bravesword 10 had been custom strung to around 26lbs. Rather than be disappointed, I was absolutely delighted and you’ll see why when you read on.
Bravesword technology revolves around the shape of the frame – which is actually the shape of a sword. And this racquet certainly sounds like one as you can hear it cut through the air!
Do you ever pick up a racquet and just know it’s going to be good? When I walked on to court with Bravesword 10, I had one of those moments.
The first hit confirmed that this racquet had that special quality. Clears were effortless and there was plenty of touch for drop shots. The racquet really cuts through the air quickly which allows for great speed, although the control is still there. The string tension felt “right” for this racquet. Sometimes they can be strung too tight that it’s harder to generate power. It would be exciting to experiment with string tensions on this racquet as I feel it’s got even more to offer.
There’s a little weight in the head, which is good as you can feel the flow of the racquet in the swing, and enhances performance and control.
The combination of the air resistance qualities of the racquet, the stiff shaft and the slight weight in the head, generate a lot of power. Yes, this is definitely a powerful racquet.
Defensively this racquet was easy to use. Again, the air resistance qualities of the head made the racquet easy to manoeuvre and the slight weight in the head was insufficient to counter this speed. In fact, the combination worked very well indeed as you felt there was some meat behind drive returns.
A racquet that performs well in defence always performs well around the net area. After all, we’re talking about generating controlled racquet speed here, in very short bursts with the slightest touch for the really tight net shots. Again, BS10 was outstanding.
It’s been a long time since I’ve had the pleasure of testing another manufacturer’s racquet of such quality. The Bravesword 10 was outstanding in every area I tested. RRP is £109.95 which is incredible for a racquet of this quality. Retailers will discount to under £100 so you’re getting an absolute bargain here.
The Bravesword 10 has the accolade of being my first 5 star racquet in the Victor range and also my first 5 star racquet out of all the other manufacturer’s ranges I’ve tested. Credit to Victor here for producing such a brilliant racquet.
There’s no question that the Victor brand is now world class. Whilst it’s relatively unknown in UK at the moment, I’m sure that their quality and pricing will easily find a way into the market. You’d be wise to test Victor’s Bravesword 10 if you can find one, because this level of quality deserves a place next to the most well-known brands.
To your success
05-17-2010, 10:45 AM #42
If you don't mind heavy-heavy racquets, then this one could be for you. SIW35 is a really stiff racquet and is weighted around the top of the head. This allows the weight to follow your swing so you get bucket loads of ooommmph.
When you crack a smash with SIW it's like launching a missile from a tank.
You'd really need to test this racquet and judge for yourself. If you're a wrist only player, you would need to add more to your technique, which isn't a bad thing.
Hope this helps.
05-17-2010, 12:45 PM #43
just manage to get a nice 2nd hand bs10 from a nice gentlemen
( all the victors are made in taiwan , sg coded , all 3u 2g)
Head Heaviness ( BS 11 > BS 10 > SW 35 > BS 09) *
Shaft stiffness ( BS 10 >SW 35 > BS 11 > BS 09)
Power (BS11/SW35 > BS10 > BS09) *
* still abit confusing over which is head heavier between the bs10 and sw35 but both rackets have their heaviness at the top part of the frame
*bs 10 is at 2nd place for now as a prediction, will give it some try at a game sometime this week and update when needed.
Btw paul , VERY nice and true review.
05-18-2010, 04:47 AM #44
05-18-2010, 05:07 PM #45
05-18-2010, 07:49 PM #46
05-18-2010, 08:10 PM #47
Head Heaviness : SW35, BS11, SW36, BS09 and BS10.
Stiffness: SW35, BS10, SW36, BS11 and BS09.
SW35 bp: 300 or above (Definitely Head Heavy)
SW36 bp: 290 or above (Slight Head Heavy)
BS09 bp: 280 or above (Even to slight Head Heavy)
BS10 bp: 280 or above (Even Balanced)
BS11 bp: 290 or above (Slight to Head Heavy)
The balance point are all rough estimate. Some racket can be off spec. I have a 4U BS11 which feels heavier than a 3U BS11 by alot and not because of the grip size.
The new BS10 and 11 swing the fastest follow by BS09 and then SW35 and 36.
SW35 is the most powerful and BS09 is the most user friendly racket. If you are more of a smashing type of player, SW35 or 36 is easier to smash with. For driving and defending, I prefer BS series as it is easier to drive the shuttle. Probably due to the frame. I have tried all the 5 rackets and sold some. Currently only left BS09 and BS11. SW35 and BS10 is too stiff. Personally BS10 is even harder to play with than SW35 because BS10 is not that head heavy and stiff, it is hard to generate power unless you got a very strong wrist. Hope this help to clear some doubts and help fellow forumers to make more informed choice on choosing victor new rackets. No chance to try the Spira 21.
05-19-2010, 10:10 AM #48
05-19-2010, 01:10 PM #49
05-19-2010, 01:26 PM #50
Comparing my SW35 to an AT700 original (never owned nor have had the opportunity to try it or ever held one in my hands), which is head heavier and stiffer? Tks.
05-19-2010, 09:13 PM #51
Yes, do take note that as victor do not specify the specs, it might be off spec. To answer your question, sw35 is stiffer than at 700.
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