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Thread: Net blocking / distraction
06-02-2012, 04:03 AM #52
If you hold your racket still and it obstructs - fault.
If you dont hold your racket still and it obstructs - fault.
Exactly the same.
Of course different situations are more or less likely to result in a fault. But that is not the point.
Last edited by amleto; 06-02-2012 at 04:08 AM.
06-02-2012, 02:31 PM #53
This kind of goes back to my point earlier. Yes, you may be right in that the rules don't explicitly state a difference in holding your racket still and attempting a shot. But then you also must ask yourself, who interprets those rules? The chair umpire. Regardless of what the rules say on paper, it is ultimately up to the chair umpire to make those distinctions where the areas are grey.
Intention doesn't play a role in the exact words of the rules, but it does play a role in how an umpire sees the situation and what call they will make (though intentions can sometimes be misread).
06-03-2012, 01:15 AM #54
What I'm saying is if you hold your racket at the net, it is immediately a fault for obstruction. If you attempt a swing, it's not an immediate fault for obstruction. If the umpire does rule it an obstruction, he will call it a fault. But the player's INTENT was to attempt to return a shot, so not immediately an obstruction call.
If a player goes up for a net kill, and I put my racket there still, if the shuttle ricochets off my racket and goes over, too bad, fault for obstruction. If they attempt a net kill, and I swing right back near the net but without obstructing my opponent and the shuttle goes over, then the point is mine.
That's why I state, IN THE DISCRETION of the umpire, that can be a legal shot.
It is up to the umpire to decide whether or not it's an obstruction. That is why I said earlier "But it is not considered an obstruction if, in the opinion of the umpire, you are attempting a return shot of the net kill."
IN THE END, if this were to happen in a match, the umpire's call is final. The players can complain all they want, they can call over the referee. Once the umpire tells the referee, I did not see it as an obstruction, regardless of what the whole world says, what video replay says, that is what it is, and that is final.
I have seen it happen before too once at open gym play. High close net shot, player went up to kill, other player took random swing at the bird and got it over. If I were chair umpire in that case, I would not have faulted the player for obstructing.
Last edited by CantSmashThis; 06-03-2012 at 01:19 AM.
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06-03-2012, 01:30 AM #55
06-05-2012, 08:45 AM #56
Lee vs. Shon, net play fault (video)
There has been some discussion over distracting your opponent's shots near the net. Am I right to interpret that Lee Chong Wei's fault here is not allowing Shon to complete his stroke?
The link should take you straight to the point in question. It starts at 3 hours 29 minutes 20 seconds or so. The situation is 16-10 for Shon in the first game. There's a good slow motion replay of the situation after the rally.
Clearly Lee Chong Wei was at fault for obstructing Shon's stroke. Even, if Shon fumbles in his shot, LCW may be faulted for distraction.
Last edited by bambino; 06-05-2012 at 08:49 AM.
06-05-2012, 09:00 AM #57
I am pleased to share net block fault, this time committed by Saina Nehwal( at time 20:17 against Wang Yihan in the BWF Masters superseries final Dec 2011.
Last edited by bambino; 06-05-2012 at 09:02 AM.
11-26-2012, 09:27 AM #58
Please see the fault at 41:42 in the video below.
11-27-2012, 09:26 AM #59
There was a good example posted on here a good while ago that showed how it can be achieved legally. I think it was sho sasaki(maybe Tago) returning the net kill and as the opponent made forward motion sasaki pulled racket back then quickly forward, even though both were very close to the net obstruction never occurred. (if I remember correctly he crouched down a lot)
11-29-2012, 12:58 AM #60
to be honest, i wouldn't call juliane's and saina's blocks faults! they are far away from the net with their rackets imho. wang should not be obstructed to do her stroke by these blocks!
12-04-2012, 11:44 AM #61
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12-04-2012, 04:02 PM #62
Wow what a point. The fault would be to call a fault after such an amazing point.
The other player didn't seem hindered in his swing so I think there was no fault
12-04-2012, 04:14 PM #63
12-05-2012, 01:51 AM #64
this is never ever a fault...
12-05-2012, 05:00 AM #65
julianes was no way a fault. to the point i would say it say clear cut a wrong call. wang had already made a full stroke and was pulling her racket back so would no way have hit julianes block.
12-05-2012, 08:54 AM #66
12-05-2012, 07:14 PM #67
12-06-2012, 03:37 AM #68
if it were closer to the net, i would still say not fault if the smasher did the same shot. if the smasher did a flick or tap kill than there may be a call for a blocking fault.
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