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    Default FANBAD - European Championships 2010

    Check http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sp...E-15ED1E82077D for schedule information.

    FANBAD - (Re)Introduction

    Sample Gameplay and Key Points
    • Consider the following MS pick for R32:
      MS R32 - Sasaki
    • If Sasaki wins (see definition of "win" later) his R32 match, you progress to R16.
    • Consider next the following pick for R16 (Sasaki cannot be picked again for the MS event throughout the tournament):
      MS R16 - Park SH
    • If Park loses his R16 match, you proceed no further and collect points for reaching R16.
    • The further you progress, the more points you collect (based on the BWF ranking points).
    • For each event, you can only use a player only once throughout the whole tournament. (If you used a player in MS, you can still use the same player in other events i.e. MD and XD.)
    • This game is played for all five events.


    Rounds
    • The game is only for the main draw. Qualifying rounds are not played.
    • For the sake of consistency, the following terms will be used to signify the rounds.
      F - Final
      SF
      QF
      R16
      R32
      R64 - Round of 64
      etc.
    • This is to avoid confusion in some tournaments where there could be more rounds in MS than other events.
    • For each event, the opening round is the first round of the main draw IF the number of valid matches (see definition of "valid match" later) makes up at least 25% of the possible matches in the round. If the number of valid matches is less than 25%, then the second round will be the opening round.
    • For example, in a R64 first round, there are 32 possible matches. If 8 or more matches are valid, then this is the opening round for the game. If not, the R32 (the next round) will be the opening round and all the R64 picks will be rendered non-existent.
    • This rule is to prevent having to pick a player from only a few matches due to the fact that all the other matches in that round are byes or walkovers.


    Valid match
    • A valid match is a match in which at least one point has been played. A bye or walkover is not considered a valid match.


    Win
    • For a player/pair to win, he/she/they must be triumphant in a valid match. Receiving a bye or walkover is not considered a win.
    • Triumph by retirement is considered a win, even if the player/pair is/are losing before the opponent(s) retire(s).

    (Henceforth, for the sake of brevity, the terms "player" and "he" will be used instead of the more cumbersome "player/pair" and "he/she/they".)

    Substitutes
    • For every round, substitutes can be chosen as standby in case the main pick's match becomes invalid.
    • There is no limit to the number of substitutes, although common sense is encouraged.
    • Unused players in the lineup can still be used in later rounds.
    • One way to use a substitute is when you are expecting a qualifier to advance to the main draw. If you think he is going to win the opening round of the main draw, you can pick him as your main pick. But just in case he fails to make the main draw at all, the next player in line will step in.
    • Another is when you will have no access to the forum for subsequent rounds. Since you are not certain who will go through to subsequent rounds, use as many substitutes as you can.
    • Basically, your pick for the round will be the first player in your lineup who is involved in a valid match for that round. So, the order of your picks is important.
    • A player who has been used before can be in your lineup, but he will always be passed over.
    • If no players in your lineup can be used, then you lose in that round.


    Format
    • For every round, make your picks before the deadline in the following format.
      [Round]
      [Event] - [Pick1], [Pick2] ...
    • e.g. in the R32, with Sasaki as the main pick and Park SH as substitute:
      R32
      MS - Sasaki, Park SH
      WS - Wong MC, Hwang HY
      MD - Koo/Tan, Boe/Mogensen
      WS - Chin/Wong, Du/Yu, Ma/Wang
      XD - ..., ...
    • Note again that you can have as many substitutes as you want (within bounds of reason).
    • Also note that the order of your lineup matters.
    • There is no restriction for the names used (you can use full names if you wish), but make sure it is clear enough to identify the pick. In some cases, you may have to be very clear, like stating "Taufik (not Akhbar)", if Taufik Hidayat Akhbar also happens to be in the same round.
    • No emails and PM will be accepted. It will all be out in the open.
    • You can keep changing your lineups. The last lineups before the deadline will be valid ones.


    Deadline
    • The deadline for a round pick is the starting time for the first match of the day.
    • For example, if the first match of the day starts at 9 am, then any pick for that day's round after 9 am (for all events) will be deemed too late.
    • The exception is the case where two rounds of the same event are to be played within the day. For this case, the later round's deadline for picks will be the starting time the first match of that round.
    • In cases where there is ambiguity on the deadline, the game administrator will give a notification in advance.
    • For the Super Series, it is clear cut since only one round is played every day, so the deadline will be the starting time for the first match of the day as usually published in advance in tournamentsoftware.
    • You do not have to make any picks for the Finals. This is because you can have at most one pick remaining once you reach the Final (the other finalist has been picked during the SF). The game will automatically assume the pick for you. If none of the finalists can be picked (because both finalists have been picked before), then you automatically end up in the runner-up (RU) position.


    Demotion Rule
    • If you fail to post a valid entry for a round, fret not. You can continue to post for subsequent rounds. However, for each round that you fail to post a valid entry, you get demoted one position from your final result achieved.
    • e.g. If you win an event, you get the runner-up spot instead if you get demoted once; a second demotion will take you down to SF achivement.
    • e.g. If you only take part in the Final, then if you win, you will only achieve R16; if you lose, you will only achieve R32.


    Ranking Points
    • The points awarded is dependant on the round achieved and is based on the BWF Ranking Points, e.g. for SS tournaments, the BWF Ranking Points for SS is used.
    • Points are awarded seperately for all 5 events.
    • For each event, a ranking is generated similar to the BWF Ranking, i.e. accumulating points from the 10 best tournaments (for that specific event only) for the past 52 weeks etc.
    • The points from each individual event ranking are accumulated to make the FANBAD ranking.


    Final Note
    • This game is mostly self-governed. Make all the picks you want for every round. The game administrator can collect the results at the end of the tournament.
    • The game administrator is well aware that the rules may yet be foolproof. In cases of disputes not covered by these set of rules, the game administrator reserves the final judgement with consideration to the spirit of the game.

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    MS: Allistair Casey
    WS: Elizabeth Cann
    MD: Chris Langbridge/Robin Middleton
    XD: Anthony Clark/Heather Olver
    WD: Imogen Bankier/Emma Mason
    Last edited by LD rules!; 04-12-2010 at 04:37 PM.

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    R64
    MS - Raul Must, Andrew Smith
    WS - Tatjana Bibik, Larisa Griga

    R32
    MS - Carl Baxter, Marc Zwiebler
    WS - Pi Hongyan, Petya Nedelcheva
    MD - Chris Langridg/Robin Middleton, Ivan Sozonov/Vladimi Ivanov
    WD - Jenny Wallwork/Gabrielle White, Marie Ropke/Lena Frier Kristiansen
    XD - Nathan Robertson/Jenny Wallwork, Wojciech Szkudlarczyk/Agnieszka Wojtkowska

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    Please be reminded. As of now, the schedule is as follows.
    14 Apr (Wed) - R64 (MS and WS), R32 (MS, WS and XD)
    15 Apr (Thu) - R32 (MD and WD), R16 (all events)

    So there are two rounds of MS and WS on Wed, and two rounds of MD and WD on Thu. You can of course make your picks in advance and place more substitutes as safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post
    MS: Allistair Casey
    WS: Elizabeth Cann
    MD: Chris Langbridge/Robin Middleton
    XD: Anthony Clark/Heather Olver
    WD: Imogen Bankier/Emma Mason
    I am assuming your MS and WS entries are for R64 and the rest are for R32. It's better to be state clearly. As the tournament progresses, you will make more entries and I could get them mixed up, especially when there are double-round days like in this tournament.

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    R64
    MS - Raul Must, Andrew Smith
    WS - Tatjana Bibik, Larisa Griga

    R32
    MS - Carl Baxter, Marc Zwiebler
    WS - Pi Hongyan, Petya Nedelcheva
    MD - Chris Langridg/Robin Middleton, Ivan Sozonov/Vladimi Ivanov
    WD - Jenny Wallwork/Gabrielle White, Marie Ropke/Lena Frier Kristiansen
    XD - Nathan Robertson/Jenny Wallwork, Wojciech Szkudlarczyk/Agnieszka Wojtkowska

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoLLuX View Post
    R64
    MS - Raul Must, Andrew Smith
    WS - Tatjana Bibik, Larisa Griga

    R32
    MS - Carl Baxter, Marc Zwiebler
    WS - Pi Hongyan, Petya Nedelcheva
    MD - Chris Langridg/Robin Middleton, Ivan Sozonov/Vladimi Ivanov
    WD - Jenny Wallwork/Gabrielle White, Marie Ropke/Lena Frier Kristiansen
    XD - Nathan Robertson/Jenny Wallwork, Wojciech Szkudlarczyk/Agnieszka Wojtkowska
    Hmmm . . . .you have exactly the same pick as mine . . . .
    Good luck to both of us

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    JImmy, i think he copy your picks....IMO...

    R64
    MS Matthieu Lo Ying Ping
    WS Telma Santos

    R32
    MS Allistair Casey
    WS Susan Egglestaf
    MD Ivanov/Sozonov
    WD Lotte/Paulien
    XD Anthony/Heather

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_Goh View Post
    Hmmm . . . .you have exactly the same pick as mine . . . .
    Good luck to both of us
    hei jimmy, actually I copied it from you since I online from mobilephone and it's hard for me to check the draw

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    R64
    MS - Raul Must, Andrew Smith
    WS - Maja Tvrdy, Van Cutsen, Cicognini

    R32
    XD - Bosch/Van Dooremalen, Grosjean/Rasidi

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    Here is revised list
    R64

    MS: Allistair Casey
    WS: Jeanine Cicognini

    R32

    MS: Andrew Smith
    WS: Susan Egelstaff
    MD: Chris Langbridge/Robin Middleton
    XD: Anthony Clark/Heather Olver
    WD: Imogen Bankier/Emma Mason

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    R64
    MS - Raul Must, Matthieu Lo Ying Ping
    WS - Tatjana Bibik, Elizabeth Cann

    R32
    MS - Joachim Persson, Rajiv Ouseph
    WS - Juliane Schenk, Tine Rasmussen
    MD - Langridge & Middleton, Fuchs & Kindervater
    WD - Bankier & Mason, Wallwork & White
    XD - Laybourn & Juhl, Robertson & Wallwork

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    Is there or shouldn't there be some sort of restriction in picking players? Might as well pick no.1 seeds only once they come into play ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
    Is there or shouldn't there be some sort of restriction in picking players? Might as well pick no.1 seeds only once they come into play ...
    If you pick the #1 seeds straight away, you cannot use them throughout the rear of the tournament (unless they are in two events) so members usually wait till later rounds to pick seeded players

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post
    If you pick the #1 seeds straight away, you cannot use them throughout the rear of the tournament (unless they are in two events) so members usually wait till later rounds to pick seeded players
    So you have to pick a new player each round?? From the example it only seems that once you switch players in the same event, the one you already used cannot be picked again.

    Reading it again assuming you have to pick a new player each round it makes more sense now yeah ... With it being such an elementary rule it should be clearly stated in further FANBAD's
    Too much time behind the screen; well at least it should be worded a little more clearly and include the word "round" .
    Last edited by demolidor; 04-13-2010 at 02:18 PM.

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    R64
    MS - Luka Zdenjak, Raul Must
    WS - Tatjana Bibik, Elizabeth Cann

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    R64
    MS - Matthieu Lo, Yuhan Tan, Raul Must
    WS - Jeanine Cicognini, Telma Santos

    R32
    XD - Ruud Bosch/Dooremalen, Matejka/Fasungova

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