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    Arrow They are all official records

    Quote Originally Posted by Bbn View Post
    If you read up records or books on badminton achievements they will always use as benchmarks the Olympics or World championships to commemorate past champions. That's why these are the tournaments all players want to win.

    They will not compile a list of BWF world no 1. I think the current world no.1 in WD are the Taiwanese pair. LCW has won so many SS in a row, he is the SS king, but it won't be recorded in history records as it is currently not a method of measurement officially.

    Its sth like one may be the best employee in the world but the boss may not recognise one's efforts and put one in the highest positions because one doesn't have the paper qualifications.

    I think it is a waste of time to argue who is better, over a period of years LD has been able to accumulate titles to reach his legendary status (as explained by 2 Beer), LCW is the king at the moment and is trying to get at least a biggie to add his name to the list of legends. LD is past his prime but is still able to give scintillating displays once in a while because he is unique in skills, reading and anticipation, his achievements at present have trickled off but he has previous official records to back his legendary status.

    WZM may look good against LD but he may not fare well against other players.
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    The World No.1 title is for the most consistent winner of all tournaments played in the last 12 months.

    The Olympic Games Champion title is for the player who have won in that one event. And so is the World Championships Games title.

    All these titles are different. They are all official records.

    The best is for a player to hold all these titles (and many others)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrerkiko View Post
    In my opinon, Wang Zhengming not even at the level of chen jin and chen long.
    200% agree with this
    i dont think he have tons of potential

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    It's looks like thread starter could be right,

    wzm could be the next super king of china among the younger players

    My opinion of course, he just got more points from lcw than dpy or cl

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    The World No.1 title is for the most consistent winner of all tournaments played in the last 12 months.

    The Olympic Games Champion title is for the player who have won in that one event. And so is the World Championships Games title.

    All these titles are different. They are all official records.

    The best is for a player to hold all these titles (and many others)
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    You miss my point, when people want to do some background study of past greats, they will look at World's records,

    Olympics, and even the AE. I am not aware of a table that ranks players by their ranking at year end over the years, maybe BWF has one.

    I am not belittling all these rankings , just which records people tend to refer to in the first instance.

    All I am saying is if people do that, certain names may be missing and others prominent.

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    I do think WZM is even close ( in level) with Chen Long..after LD, I do not think that I will see any better player from China for a while..
    after April, LD needs to play more and wont be easy to dominate like he used to be...will be interesting tow atch to se how many tournaments he will play during qualification

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    Wang reaches the 2nd rd of the AE tournament, a milestone. Will it be the QF as well?

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    A very good chance for him to reach the QF. He's up against kazushi yamada from Japan

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    Thumbs up 2011 All England SSP Round 2: The Kazushi Yamada-vs- Wang Zhengming match

    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    A very good chance for him to reach the QF. He's up against kazushi yamada from Japan
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    Kazushi Yamada is in top form.

    Yesterday, he defeated Taufik Hidayat [2] in Round 1 easily, with scores of 21-10, 21-14 in just 31 minutes.

    I will guess that KZ could defeat WZM today (at the 2011 All England SSP Round 2).
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    Kazushi YAMADA (JAP) beat Zhengming WANG (CHN): 21-15 19-21 21-16

    It seems like WZM still has a long way to go....

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    Wow, can't believe he lost to KY of Japan.. yeah, way to go for this guy it seems

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    Yes WZM still has a long way. He still cant get a hold of consistency. He may be able to paly well and beat a senior one day, but lose to a junior the next. He still need 2 more years to mature. The current Chinese juniors are different from previous ones. BCL and LD were already vanquishing the chasers of the top guns when they came in to the scene in 2002. By 2003 they were considered good enough tot beat the top 3 in the world consistenly ( CH, XXZ, PG and WCH who were still in their prime). At least China shouldnt worry because thier juniors are doing better than the countries' juniors. They would dominate the honor rolls 2 years from now when LD and LCW finally retires.

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    So far no one has given any real credit to Yamada. If he makes the semis, everyone will notice.

    Japan seems to be developing well .

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    WZM still has a long way to go.........

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    You can watch him on astro 812 sometimes in CBL matches involving Guangzhou.

    His recent form shows tremendous potential and talent, just needs to tighten his game

    and remain focused .

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    200% agree with this
    i dont think he have tons of potential
    he has the potential and ability
    he only need to gain more experience to be at the same level at LD

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    after 14 month this thread started
    wzm get ko-ed by a uncle from korea today,with 21-9,21-9 in 2nd and 3rd set eh?

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    But he did beat Arif, Sato, BoonsaK to reach this stage, and took one set fr uncle HI leh... Not bad...

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