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Thread: string moving a lot
05-15-2010, 01:48 AM #18
Some of the opinions expressed here about why strings move are really silly. Some of you even put the blame on the stringer.
Strings move because they are being moved by the base/crown of the shuttlecock. The direction of string movement correspond to the direction of the racquet stroke, hence the mains are more affected than the crosses.
Different strings have different gripping properties. To make it simple let us take an example of a given string called A. String A will move more at lower tension, less at higher tension. The reason is simple. When struck by a shuttlecock the frictional contact interface between the string and shuttle base will "shift" the string. The extent of the shift will depend on the tension. The higher the tension the lower the shift or string movement.
If string A has a rougher coating this will have more friction-good for control-the string will move more relative to another string with less friction on the coating.
At any given tension, string movement is a hallmark of a great string, although the higher the tension the lower the string movement relative to lower tension. New strings that do not move are practically useless.
All strings will move less after a while. This is a symptom and a clear sign that the string has gone past its optimal playability. It has lost its frictional coating and may have even notched into the cross strings where the main/cross intersection has sunk into a sink hole.
I hope I have made it look like plain black and white to cut out all the hocus pocus.
05-15-2010, 04:52 AM #19
You said 6 or 7 months, ago - I can see why they are moving. But if it's new and moves like that - does not seem to add up, question the stringer.
String jobs do matter because one can do it such that, even at the high tension, it can move so easily that you would find it a hassle to re-adjust constantly after every rally. Good thing, the stringer I go to is known in the area that people specifically go to him to have their racket stringed up - why? He's good!
Last edited by Matt; 05-15-2010 at 04:56 AM.
05-15-2010, 02:28 PM #20
05-15-2010, 02:33 PM #21
05-16-2010, 04:08 AM #22
Thank you, taneepak - maybe people won't blame the stringers now. String movement, while perhaps annoying, is actually a good thing: it shows the strings haven't "dug" into each other yet and are still fighting fit. It's when the strings stop moving that we should be concerned!
In addition to the newness factor, I would posit that string movement is a way for a new stringbed to equalize all its stresses and strains. When a racket is fresh off the machine all the friction at the main/X interchanges may not be completely uniform, so the strings shuffling around after hits may be the racket's way of evening everything out. Just a theory.
05-16-2010, 09:04 AM #23
You can actually make strings move quite a lot with certain strokes that are not power shots. One is the very fast reverse slice drop, which I saw LD execute on the forehand in his second game against LCW. Another stroke is the cut smash, a fast sliced smash. Also cross-court shots will move the strings more.
05-16-2010, 02:15 PM #24
Someone mentioned that the more friction a string has the less likely it is to move. However this isn't always the case. If a high friction string has enough force put on it then it will move to a new position and then stay there (unless moved back by a similar force). A lower friction string will begin to slide back so appear not to have moved as much.
For example I find Zymax 62 to have moved more after a rally than bg65 ti, simply because it doesn't slide back to roughly the centre.
Unless the stringer is doing something very wrong I don't think it's the stringers fault. I also agree that no movement is not good. Too much movement can be annoying though, but I find it only happens when I've messed a shot up... Or deliberately sliced it but the former is more often the case...
05-16-2010, 02:37 PM #25
05-16-2010, 03:26 PM #26
Unless the stringer is doing something very wrong I don't think it's the stringers fault.
I don't want this to sound contentious, but can anybody actually suggest anything that the stringer could do that would lead to excessive string movement? Or, alternatively, anything (s)he could do to prevent it? I do one of mine at 31 and even that has some movement when fresh!
05-16-2010, 05:32 PM #27
I know a stringer who does exactly this - lets just say a lot of people have complained about that stringer and his techniques.
Preventing, assuming the string job is done properly, ink stencil does help a bit.
Last edited by Matt; 05-16-2010 at 05:36 PM.
05-16-2010, 07:56 PM #28
05-18-2010, 12:33 PM #29
Also if the stringer have bad technique(inconsistency) and assume the stringer tensioned 1 or 2 mains slightly lower than all other strings, it will cause those strings to move much easier than the rest.
i have a customer who complains his strings move a lot but he uses slippery strings, low tension, and slices most of his shots. None of my other customers have this problem so i just shrug it off =T
05-18-2010, 06:55 PM #30
Last edited by Matt; 05-18-2010 at 06:57 PM.
09-15-2012, 12:14 PM #31
Thank you to all that have posted here, your posts have really helped a lot in understanding why strings move !!
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